FlyingGreg wrote:Lights out. No training wheels, full off-season in the program knowing he is the starter, more weapons around him (hopefully), cohesion, experience, preparation, study...

He's going to be dominating from Game 1.

FlyingGreg wrote:Lights out. No training wheels, full off-season in the program knowing he is the starter, more weapons around him (hopefully), cohesion, experience, preparation, study...

He's going to be dominating from Game 1.

Sgt. Largent wrote:The interesting thing to watch next year is how the Carroll/Wilson relationship evolves.

As we found out this year Pete is reluctant to entrust 100% of the offense to Russell. It took him until week 9 or 10 to give Russell more control over play calling, check downs and formations.

IMO in order for Wilson to become the superstar we all know he can be, and to be in the upper tier of elite NFL QB's with Brady, Brees and Rodgers, Pete is going to have to allow RW the ultimate freedom to run the offense how he sees fit. Will Pete do that?

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how that dynamic grows..........or stagnates if Pete is unwilling to FULLY give Russell control over the offense.

volsunghawk wrote:

FlyingGreg wrote:Lights out. No training wheels, full off-season in the program knowing he is the starter, more weapons around him (hopefully), cohesion, experience, preparation, study...

He's going to be dominating from Game 1.

At the same time, defenses are going to have a year of film on him and there will be more prep to stop him. I think he'll pick up where he left off, which is already pretty damn good, and improve in small increments over the course of the season, with an off game or two here or there as some defense throws a new wrinkle at him.

FlyingGreg wrote:Lights out. No training wheels, full off-season in the program knowing he is the starter, more weapons around him (hopefully), cohesion, experience, preparation, study...

He's going to be dominating from Game 1.

Aros wrote:Will we even lose a game in 2013?

Aros wrote:Will we even lose a game in 2013?

Aros wrote:Will we even lose a game in 2013?

Throwdown wrote:well... We kinda did last weeked, and its the reason why we aren't playing this weekend...

RolandDeschain wrote:

Throwdown wrote:well... We kinda did last weeked, and its the reason why we aren't playing this weekend...

Aros wrote:Will we even lose a game in 2013?

FlyingGreg wrote:There's a reason why Rodgers, Brady, Brees etc put up gawdy numbers every season - the talent eclipses all else. I'm not saying Wilson is in their class, ...

Russell Wilson ‏@DangeRussWilson

I truly dislike not being able to prepare for a game this week. Miss my teammates and fans. #GoHawks

formido wrote:I think that Wilson will lead the NFL in passer rating, probably significantly. I think he will lead an absolutely dominant Seattle team and will enter the national conversation as the best QB in the NFL. I think, unfortunately, Colin Kaepernick might be in the conversation, too, although I expect Wilson to both better and less system dependent. Wilson will always be a better passer and the gap will get wider over the next couple years.

To understand Wilson's progress over the season, note that over the last half of the season, he led the NFL in passer rating, by far, at around 120 to RG3's 110:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... ass_rating

Not only that, his second half was the 6th best second half for a QB ever, not just rookies:

Passer rating, Games 9-16 of any season 1900-2012 (through Profootball reference)
2010 Tom Brady - 128.2
1994 Steve Young - 123.6
2010 Aaron Rodgers - 122.0
2011 Drew Brees - 121.6
2004 Peyton Manning - 121.0
2012 Russell Wilson - 120.3

Hat tip: http://www.reddit.com/r/Seahawks/commen ... he_second/

Last year Chip Kelly gave a Nike sponsored coaches clinic presentation called "Efficient Use of Practice Time." As Kelly is a brilliant and innovative coach it was a gold mine of information. One thing I noticed is that Kelly would not have been fooled by any of the deprecating analysis about Russell Wilson at draft time. According to Kelly's simple model of finding QB talent, Wilson is right in the sweet spot:

"lf the quarterback is not tall, look at his hands.
That is the biggest coaching point to finding
a quarterback. How big are his hands, and how
well can he control the football? The height of
the quarterback is not the important thing. No one
playing quarterback throws over the line. They
throw through lanes in the linemen. The important
thing is the size of their hand"

Source: http://fishduck.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... mplete.pdf

chris98251 wrote:Knowing what we know I am not worried about his growth. Someone said no or little of that Tarkenton stuff, those roll outs and sprints or avoiding sacks is what makes him dangerous and special, don't shy away from what makes him who he is.

I just want him to continue to be healthy, he plays smart and protects himself pretty well now, I would expect that to improve more as the game really begins to slow down for him even more.

NYCoug wrote:I was thinking about this last night, so I'm glad this topic exists.

I'm gonna go with:

13-3 or 14-2 as a starter, not sure yet, but for the sake of the thread I'll go with 14-2
4240 Yards Passing (265 per game, not too crazy to imagine)
40 Passing TD's (2.5 per game, again, nothing crazy)
800 Rushing Yards (50 per game, realistic)
8 Rushing TD's (.5 per game, might be a stretch but nothing would surprise me with him)
4 INT (Not as many fluke dropped INT's, reverts to Wisconsin/NC State form)
70% Completion
Finishes as the runner up for MVP but his perceived "robbery" by the nation wins him even more fans and he becomes the nation's favorite QB and player in the NFL. A bigger name like Rodgers gets the award but many will want Russell to win it.

Hawks go to the postseason as the #1 seed and win it all, Wilson wins Super Bowl MVP. Thus, the dynasty starts.

WestcoastSteve wrote:Only 4 interceptions? I don't think any QB has started 16 games and thrown only 4 interceptions.

70% completion rate? You realize that's only happened once right?

I love Russell but pass the homer-ade.

lobohawk wrote:First years at NC State:
Balancing school work, baseball, and football = exceptional player (tops in the conference)

Year at Wisconsin:
Balancing school work and football = nationally recognized player (among top 3 QBs in country / best passer rating)

First year at Seattle:
Rookie experience and shared early season practice time = nationally recognized player (among top 3 rookie QBs and top 10 QBs in NFL)

He now can devote a 100% of his work effort toward his craft. With the resources currently available through a professional team coupled with his effort and focus, it'll be interesting to see what kind of leap he makes next year. There has to be a ceiling for what kind of productivity he can have in his career, but I'm guessing we'll see him get pretty close to it next year.

Jerhawk wrote:
Unfortunately, I chose sophmore slump. I hope I'm wrong, but if teams stop Russell in the read option, that eliminates a large amount of the yardage our offense was gaining in the second half of the season

Sgt. Largent wrote:

Jerhawk wrote:
Unfortunately, I chose sophmore slump. I hope I'm wrong, but if teams stop Russell in the read option, that eliminates a large amount of the yardage our offense was gaining in the second half of the season

IMO the way we play offense is slump proof. If this was the Colts where we expect Russell to throw it 50-60 times a game like Luck, or the Skins where they expect RG3 to carry 80% of the offensive load and get hurt again, then I'd agree with you.

But the Hawks are predicated on 60% run, so all Wilson has to do is exactly what he's been doing............hand the ball off to BeastMode 25 times, manage the game, read defenses and make a few plays here and there.