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offseason started: PC wants pass-rushers
Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:22 am
  • PC is starting to talk about our needs and the offseason.

    “We need another pass rusher,” Carroll said, via the Tacoma News-Tribune. “We really do. That’s why we went out and got Jason (Jones) last year. And we’re going to have to double it up. We need a couple of guys.”


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  • Great to hear. Even more important than a #1 WR, in my opinion. We HAVE to be able to pressure opposing QBs next season.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:Great to hear. Even more important than a #1 WR, in my opinion. We HAVE to be able to pressure opposing QBs next season.

    I totally agree. I'm fine with Rice/Tate/Baldwin. Of course I'll be glad if we take a shot at Bowe and i'm sure a WR or two will be drafted but do not use our 1st round on a WR. No WRs deserve it this year it's not like we have an AJ Green or Julio Jones.
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  • Coxal wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Great to hear. Even more important than a #1 WR, in my opinion. We HAVE to be able to pressure opposing QBs next season.

    I totally agree. I'm fine with Rice/Tate/Baldwin. Of course I'll be glad if we take a shot at Bowe and i'm sure a WR or two will be drafted but do not use our 1st round on a WR. No WRs deserve it this year it's not like we have an AJ Green or Julio Jones.


    While there is no Julio or AJ in this years draft it is incredibly deep.
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  • Coxal wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Great to hear. Even more important than a #1 WR, in my opinion. We HAVE to be able to pressure opposing QBs next season.

    I totally agree. I'm fine with Rice/Tate/Baldwin. Of course I'll be glad if we take a shot at Bowe and i'm sure a WR or two will be drafted but do not use our 1st round on a WR. No WRs deserve it this year it's not like we have an AJ Green or Julio Jones.


    From what I understand reading the opinions of hacks like English and Kearly, this is a pretty deep WR class this year, plenty of talent to be had in the first two rounds. Still, pass rush is most important.
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  • Definately reassuring although I never really doubted PC....just figured it was one of the final rebuild projects. It seems pretty clear he and Sneids utilize temporary patches in spots while overhauling other areas until the time comes for the upgrades in that area.
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  • And so do we! Great to hear. And here's the thing: great quarterbacks make good receivers look great; great pass rushers make good quarterbacks look bad.
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  • Good news, nice knowing that this is the immediate concern from what we are hearing. I like that they have their priorities in order.
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  • All I want is an absolute MONSTER of a defensive tackle. Mebane is a good run stopper. So we need a well rounded DT, one who's specialty is plowing through O-linemen and destroying the pocket from right up the middle. Forcing a pocket QB to run to the edge, where Clemons or Irvin will be waiting.

    By monster, I mean it. I'd like to find a freak of nature: 6'7" 355 pounds, but he won't just be a big dude. He will run a 5 second flat in the 40. Post a respectable time in the cone drill and beat out EVERYONE on bench press reps in his draft class. I want this dude to walk up to the barbell, see the 225 set up on it and ask, "Wait.. I didn't know we would be doing one arm curls..?" Then proceed to curl 225 with one arm.

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  • I don't know what do you think guys but when I read this article it seems to me that an interior pass-rusher is priority number #1 above edge-rusher. He mentionned the signature of Jones and not Irvin.

    Of course, pass-rush at all is a priority so I'm sure we will have additions inside and outside.

    Btw Zowert, when I read you I have one name popping in my mind : SUH.
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  • Well that Hulk and monster of a man happens to exits his name is Margus Hunt. :3: Check this kid out he is raw as hell being from Estonia and never played football until college. This guys gonna light up the combine so dont know if we got a shot, but we will see.
    Seems like an athletic freak that's fast, thats a JS/PC pick if I've ever seen one. There were some other videos of him (I think against fresno state) lining up as DT then DE then NT it was strane but he got home sometimes even when triple teamed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margus_Hunt

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... argus-hunt

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  • Coxal wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Great to hear. Even more important than a #1 WR, in my opinion. We HAVE to be able to pressure opposing QBs next season.

    I totally agree. I'm fine with Rice/Tate/Baldwin. Of course I'll be glad if we take a shot at Bowe and i'm sure a WR or two will be drafted but do not use our 1st round on a WR. No WRs deserve it this year it's not like we have an AJ Green or Julio Jones.


    I could go either way depending on the situation. I have no doubt that PC/JS can find productive DL after round 1, and your pick in round 1 should never be hamstrung so much by a need that you overlook a superior player elsewhere. There's no AJ Green or Julio Jones, fine, but those players are top-10 caliber players. We're picking at 25, just barely above the start of round 2. Plenty of wideouts worthy of a pick there, with the potential to become special.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    Coxal wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Great to hear. Even more important than a #1 WR, in my opinion. We HAVE to be able to pressure opposing QBs next season.

    I totally agree. I'm fine with Rice/Tate/Baldwin. Of course I'll be glad if we take a shot at Bowe and i'm sure a WR or two will be drafted but do not use our 1st round on a WR. No WRs deserve it this year it's not like we have an AJ Green or Julio Jones.


    From what I understand reading the opinions of hacks like English and Kearly, this is a pretty deep WR class this year, plenty of talent to be had in the first two rounds. Still, pass rush is most important.


    And since the draft class of WRs is deep and DL is not, you start with the latter area. I hope JS can get it done.
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  • Starting tomorrow, 100 days until the draft.
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  • Nice to hear that.
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  • Seahawk Sailor wrote:And so do we! Great to hear. And here's the thing: great quarterbacks make good receivers look great; great pass rushers make good quarterbacks look bad.

    I want a DL like the NY Giants have had in past years!
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  • Anyone think we will re-sign Jason Jones on the cheap? I would at least hope so. I would love it if DT and DE were extremely deep heading into camp, I want that competition to be ridiculous!
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  • Sign Henry Melton then do whatever you gotta do to get both Ansah and Hunt in the draft. Boom, pass rush fixed.
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  • SeaHawk80 wrote:Well that Hulk and monster of a man happens to exits his name is Margus Hunt. :3: Check this kid out he is raw as hell being from Estonia and never played football until college. This guys gonna light up the combine so dont know if we got a shot, but we will see.
    Seems like an athletic freak that's fast, thats a JS/PC pick if I've ever seen one. There were some other videos of him (I think against fresno state) lining up as DT then DE then NT it was strane but he got home sometimes even when triple teamed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margus_Hunt

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... argus-hunt

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... mpNzMQxVoA


    Uh, DUDE. predicted to rep 225 45 times, with a 4.6 40....this dude is gonna be gone way before #25....Estonian shot put/hammer throw monster, blocked 8 kicks in 12 games....WTF? Kiper's gonna be all over this guy!
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  • Man, just watched that footage from the Hawaii bowl...that guy is a BEAST...seriously, I would cream myself if we drafted that guy...him on one side, Irvin on the other? that's sack central right there....
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  • Man, Hunt would be a sick replacement for Bryant.

    I hope Bryant gets better; he looked quicker last year and maybe his feet are bothering him. He needs to lose weight at that position. Hunt would be that athletic replacement at that spot. I'd like a JJ Watt type of guy...body type that is.
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  • didnt Pete say the same thing last offseason too?

    Looks like we failed to fix it last year so I guess we will try again this year. I hope we are more successful this time.
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  • Hmm. I would have thought spending a first round pick on a "pass rushing specialist" would have solved the pass rush issue. Guess not.
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  • Is Hunt that talented, or Fresno State's OL that bad? I know he was initially beating a freshman on the right side, but by the second half they were triple teaming him.
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  • I honestly want a DT with our number 1 pick.

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    I know our corners are good. But I want another big physical corner. We were injury bug free this year.
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  • jkitsune wrote:
    Coxal wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:Great to hear. Even more important than a #1 WR, in my opinion. We HAVE to be able to pressure opposing QBs next season.

    I totally agree. I'm fine with Rice/Tate/Baldwin. Of course I'll be glad if we take a shot at Bowe and i'm sure a WR or two will be drafted but do not use our 1st round on a WR. No WRs deserve it this year it's not like we have an AJ Green or Julio Jones.


    I could go either way depending on the situation. I have no doubt that PC/JS can find productive DL after round 1, and your pick in round 1 should never be hamstrung so much by a need that you overlook a superior player elsewhere. There's no AJ Green or Julio Jones, fine, but those players are top-10 caliber players. We're picking at 25, just barely above the start of round 2. Plenty of wideouts worthy of a pick there, with the potential to become special.

    I agree. Too, has Pete started sending out smoke screens already? Hope so. I have thought we've reached a bit the last 2 years in the first round. So, I could see a John Jenkins and this Margus Hunt dude both sitting there at 25 and the Seahawks take DT Brandon Williams from some small college in Missouri. This board would explode with howls. For me... there is ONE player (at least at this point) that I would like to see the Seahawks NOT PASS UP if he is there at 25. That player is Tavon Austin. That kid is special. I think there are other WR's that could be consolation prizes in the draft: Ryan Swope, Markus Keaton. But, I wouldn't take them in the 1st round. I would take Tavon Austin and not look back. I would rather see the Hawks address the pass rush in Free Agency. Michael Johnson, Randy Starks, Desmond Bryant, ??? Not sure we find an elite pass rusher at 25. I don't know how they're going to do it... but, I am exited to see what JS/PC are going to come up with this offseason. (BTW... I don't really think PC is being disingenuous about the need for doubling up on the Pass Rush. That would be good.)
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  • Re-sign Jason Jones, like now. He's proved to be a valuable piece as a pass rushing DT. At least, his impact is felt when he's not there. They have a lack of interior pass rush and this guy is right here already. Lock him up for 2-3 years at the minimum. The next move is to consider Randy Starks, DT as an FA. This guy is huge and will take 2 guys to block him. He was a terror when the Seahawks played Miami. Here's a link to his profile on NFL.com - http://www.nfl.com/player/randystarks/2505998/profile. He and Jones can spell each other as pass rushing DT. Which may help Jones stay healthy by limiting his reps, etc.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:Re-sign Jason Jones, like now. He's proved to be a valuable piece as a pass rushing DT. At least, his impact is felt when he's not there. They have a lack of interior pass rush and this guy is right here already. Lock him up for 2-3 years at the minimum. The next move is to consider Randy Starks, DT as an FA. This guy is huge and will take 2 guys to block him. He was a terror when the Seahawks played Miami. Here's a link to his profile on NFL.com - http://www.nfl.com/player/randystarks/2505998/profile. He and Jones can spell each other as pass rushing DT. Which may help Jones stay healthy by limiting his reps, etc.


    I like your enthusiasm, but I'm curious why you'd give Jason Jones a 2-3+ year contract when he hasn't even lasted the last two full seasons?

    I'd love to see them bring back Jones, sign someone like Starks or Melton, and draft a young DT. That may be ambitious.
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  • jkitsune wrote:
    hawkfan68 wrote:Re-sign Jason Jones, like now. He's proved to be a valuable piece as a pass rushing DT. At least, his impact is felt when he's not there. They have a lack of interior pass rush and this guy is right here already. Lock him up for 2-3 years at the minimum. The next move is to consider Randy Starks, DT as an FA. This guy is huge and will take 2 guys to block him. He was a terror when the Seahawks played Miami. Here's a link to his profile on NFL.com - http://www.nfl.com/player/randystarks/2505998/profile. He and Jones can spell each other as pass rushing DT. Which may help Jones stay healthy by limiting his reps, etc.


    I like your enthusiasm, but I'm curious why you'd give Jason Jones a 2-3+ year contract when he hasn't even lasted the last two full seasons?

    I'd love to see them bring back Jones, sign someone like Starks or Melton, and draft a young DT. That may be ambitious.


    Don't see what all are seeing in Jones. Aside from injury he had 10 total tackles in 12 games. Barely saw him make an impact. Thanks but no thanks.
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  • I liked the Jason Jones pick when it happened but not so much now. We need healthy players that can hang not old foogies that burn out and break. Hill, Tru, Jones.
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  • Pressure doesn't always have come in the form of a DL. A LBer that can push home the attack could be in the works. Think a Chad Brown type of player. hmmm... maybe.
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