Gus knows what he can do, and he's pretty clearly ahead of anyone else in Jax. Draft crop for QBs isn't stellar and we're in a win now league?
Do you thing Gus will make a trade for Flynn?
SeahawksFanForever wrote:Matt Flynn to Jax and I would like us to draft Matt Barkley with the 25th overall pick of this draft.
CodeWarrior wrote:Trade Flynn for Alualu. It's not THAT far fetched.
HawkFan72 wrote:I just hope Schneider would be able to get a 1st or 2nd for him then, since Gus knows how good he really is and all.
Hawkfan77 wrote:SeahawksFanForever wrote:Matt Flynn to Jax and I would like us to draft Matt Barkley with the 25th overall pick of this draft.
Did you forget theat the end of your statement?
entropyrulesall wrote:Hawkfan77 wrote:SeahawksFanForever wrote:Matt Flynn to Jax and I would like us to draft Matt Barkley with the 25th overall pick of this draft.
Did you forget theat the end of your statement?
No he must have been reading Hawk Blogger. It's an interesting idea but not for our Superbowl caliber team. http://www.hawkblogger.com/2013/01/early-thoughts-on-trading-matt-flynn.html?m=1
CodeWarrior wrote:Of course Gus would have to go to a franchise entirely bereft of pass rushing talent. That's right, Jax finished DEAD LAST in the NFL in sacks during the regular season at a pathetic 20. Alualu was their sack leader, recording a whopping 3.5 sacks...
Still, I'll take that from a DT.
CANHawk wrote:CodeWarrior wrote:Of course Gus would have to go to a franchise entirely bereft of pass rushing talent. That's right, Jax finished DEAD LAST in the NFL in sacks during the regular season at a pathetic 20. Alualu was their sack leader, recording a whopping 3.5 sacks...
Still, I'll take that from a DT.
I don't profess to watch a ton of Jags games (just like most people in Jacksonville <rimshot>) but Alualu looks like he brings a TON of pressure up the middle. We need that (desperately) and at 295 he's big enough to play 3 downs and stuff the run.
I'd be thrilled to hear we worked out some kind of trade involving Flynn for Alualu.
entropyrulesall wrote:Hawkfan77 wrote:SeahawksFanForever wrote:Matt Flynn to Jax and I would like us to draft Matt Barkley with the 25th overall pick of this draft.
Did you forget theat the end of your statement?
No he must have been reading Hawk Blogger. It's an interesting idea but not for our Superbowl caliber team. http://www.hawkblogger.com/2013/01/early-thoughts-on-trading-matt-flynn.html?m=1
SacHawk2.0 wrote:Gus knows what he can do, and he's pretty clearly ahead of anyone else in Jax. Draft crop for QBs isn't stellar and we're in a win now league?
Do you thing Gus will make a trade for Flynn?
HawkFan72 wrote:CANHawk wrote:CodeWarrior wrote:Of course Gus would have to go to a franchise entirely bereft of pass rushing talent. That's right, Jax finished DEAD LAST in the NFL in sacks during the regular season at a pathetic 20. Alualu was their sack leader, recording a whopping 3.5 sacks...
Still, I'll take that from a DT.
I don't profess to watch a ton of Jags games (just like most people in Jacksonville <rimshot>) but Alualu looks like he brings a TON of pressure up the middle. We need that (desperately) and at 295 he's big enough to play 3 downs and stuff the run.
I'd be thrilled to hear we worked out some kind of trade involving Flynn for Alualu.
I'm pretty sure that Gus, being a defensive guy, wouldn't go for it. He knows who the best players on the D are there and he's not going to trade one of them away.
entropyrulesall wrote:Hawkfan77 wrote:SeahawksFanForever wrote:Matt Flynn to Jax and I would like us to draft Matt Barkley with the 25th overall pick of this draft.
Did you forget theat the end of your statement?
No he must have been reading Hawk Blogger. It's an interesting idea but not for our Superbowl caliber team. http://www.hawkblogger.com/2013/01/early-thoughts-on-trading-matt-flynn.html?m=1
Hawkstorian wrote:Why do we think anyone would trade for him when nobody else even wanted to sign him last year? We think losing his starting job and sitting on the bench all year somehow makes him more valuable? I don't get it.
Hawkstorian wrote:Why do we think anyone would trade for him when nobody else even wanted to sign him last year? We think losing his starting job and sitting on the bench all year somehow makes him more valuable? I don't get it.
pehawk wrote:To pile on scanner's post, KC makes immediate sense. I could throw for 2,500 and 18 TD's under Reid, pretty sure Flynn would thrive there. That's a talented team, in a poor division, with a great running game. Add Flynn, and you're at 8 wins, MINIMUM.
pehawk wrote:To pile on scanner's post, KC makes immediate sense. I could throw for 2,500 and 18 TD's under Reid, pretty sure Flynn would thrive there. That's a talented team, in a poor division, with a great running game. Add Flynn, and you're at 8 wins, MINIMUM.
Hawkstorian wrote:Why do we think anyone would trade for him when nobody else even wanted to sign him last year? We think losing his starting job and sitting on the bench all year somehow makes him more valuable? I don't get it.
drdiags wrote:I think Reid would want to draft and nurture his own QB. After the Casell signing and eventual failure, the new GM and HC would need to be sensitive to the fanbase and ownership's previous experience. If it is something Reid wants, I am sure he won't get much grief but I think he would rather develop his own. Then again he was involved in the Vick signing, so what do I know?
I am not sure Jags GM Caldwell would want to make signing Flynn his first player related move. Henne was going to be in the mix if Mularkey remained, wonder what the owner's feel is on bringing in a 3rd QB. Tough deal with Gabbert having issues getting established with the club.
drdiags wrote:I think Reid would want to draft and nurture his own QB. After the Casell signing and eventual failure, the new GM and HC would need to be sensitive to the fanbase and ownership's previous experience. If it is something Reid wants, I am sure he won't get much grief but I think he would rather develop his own. Then again he was involved in the Vick signing, so what do I know?
Hawkscanner wrote:Given the Supply and Demand Issue (the fact that there aren't a lot of decent starting QB's out there), Matt Flynn getting traded this offseason makes FAR too sense. This is one that I'm basically taking to the bank and saying that this is going to happen.
pehawk wrote:Reid AINT going to draft a high pick QB. Why would he? This is a dude thats made; Vick, Foles, Garcia, Kolb and even KAFKA good QB's. It'd be like investing a high draft pick at OL for Cable.
pehawk wrote:Reid AINT going to draft a high pick QB. Why would he? This is a dude thats made; Vick, Foles, Garcia, Kolb and even KAFKA good QB's. It'd be like investing a high draft pick at OL for Cable.
Hasselbeck wrote:Matt Flynn should be our starter. Wilson is nothing more than a backup and will never amount to anything in this league.
T-Sizzle wrote:pehawk wrote:Reid AINT going to draft a high pick QB. Why would he? This is a dude thats made; Vick, Foles, Garcia, Kolb and even KAFKA good QB's. It'd be like investing a high draft pick at OL for Cable.
McNabb?
ivotuk wrote:I can't believe how people tend to devalue Flynn.
1. There is a high demand for QB this year with very little help in the draft. There was high demand last year, and his market was ice cold.
2. Flynn is a known quantity. Perhaps in Green Bay. I don't think anyone has any idea what he'd look like without GB's receivers (probably a pancake), but last year's market gives us a hint.
3. Swapping places in the 1st or 2nd round is a plausible trade value I think a 6th rounder at most is plausible trade value
4. At minimum, Matt Flynn, a starting caliber QB is worth a 3rd rounder, especially with his reasonable contract. He needs to prove himself a starting caliber QB first.
5. There are teams whose window does not allow for them to bring a QB up to speed and none of the QBs except for Barkley are ready to come in and start right away. True, but even if the young QB's this year aren't perfect, they've probably still got more name recognition and ticket-selling vibe around them that Matt Flynn.
6. As mentioned above, history shows that teams are willing to give up good draft picks for QBs. Hell, they will give up 4th and 5th rounders for Tim Tebow and Josh Wilson! And Deion Branch. No doubt teams get stupid. This remains the primary hope of Flynn getting us more than a 7th. But there are always desperate teams every year.
7. Teams that could use a new QB
Buffalo
Jets They're stuck with Sanchez and might like McElroy as a cheap stopgap while they slog out of cap hell
Browns They might or might not give up on Weeden so quick
Jaguars
KC Barkley
Raiders
Eagles Between Vick and Foles, they might not be looking, but new coach does suggest new QB.
Cardinals See Eagles. But keep in mind, last year several teams were just as desperate, and still nobody cared for Flynn. It's hard to get around that.
8. Teams that need a good backup QB are not going to give up anything more than a 7th to get him.
Miami
Titans
Dallas
Bears!
Vikings
Panthers
Tampa Bay (Freeman could use a good benching)
Personally, I think Flynn is worth someone moving back in the 1st round in order to get him. Or a mid-late 2nd round pick straight up. And if Clayton thinks he is only worth a 7th, then he's losing it.
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