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 Post subject: Dan Snyder ruined his Franchise QB
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Watching the replay of Griffin's knee buckling makes me sick. Good job you moron, your stupid, cheap ass decision to let your field turn into a quagmire probably ruined your best player. Good job by you, fool!


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It's more on Shanahan for not pulling him than it is on Snyder.

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Put the blame where it belongs,,,,squarely on Rat Boys shoulders. He has a history of running players out there till they drop shortening their careers in the meantime..

One common frame here all week was the Skin fans crying for field turf cause their place is used more than ours and they hate it.

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 Post subject: Re: Dan Snyder ruined his Franchise QB
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It's more on Shanahan for not pulling him than it is on Snyder.



This. Though I feel the only chance we had to win was with RGIII...it was obvious in the second quarter he needed to come out.


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If the field wasnt screwed up to begin with then no one would of had to deal with any of these horrible injuries. Things like this dont start with the Coach, he has no say so on what conditions the field is in.


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Watching the replay of Griffin's knee buckling makes me sick. Good job you moron, your stupid, cheap ass decision to let your field turn into a quagmire probably ruined your best player. Good job by you, fool!


Put some of the blame on RGIII for wanting to stay in the game. Blame doesn't fall to one person.


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LOL at blaming Snyder. C'mon guys.

Good game Seahawks, you outplayed the Redskins. Plain and simple.


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 Post subject: Re: Dan Snyder ruined his Franchise QB
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Watching the replay of Griffin's knee buckling makes me sick. Good job you moron, your stupid, cheap ass decision to let your field turn into a quagmire probably ruined your best player. Good job by you, fool!


Put some of the blame on RGIII for wanting to stay in the game. Blame doesn't fall to one person.


True. But Shanahan is 40 years older than RGIII. Would you expect Wilson to back down and take himself out if under the same circumstances?


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Watching the replay of Griffin's knee buckling makes me sick. Good job you moron, your stupid, cheap ass decision to let your field turn into a quagmire probably ruined your best player. Good job by you, fool!


Put some of the blame on RGIII for wanting to stay in the game. Blame doesn't fall to one person.


As a coach though sometimes you have to take the player out even if he tells you he's fine. I remember a few years ago Gore tried to go back in with his bad hip and Singletary wouldn't let him.


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drastik wrote:
LOL at blaming Snyder. C'mon guys.

Good game Seahawks, you outplayed the Redskins. Plain and simple.


So what do you think about it? Seriously?


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That picture is witty I guess, but pretty classless.

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I blame Snyder for a lot. That field contributed to RGIII's injury as well as Clemons. It's bullshit, and I said so when watching that Skins vs. Cowboys game. That's one of the the shittiest fields I've ever seen in the NFL. Pittsburgh has had some bad ones, but I don't think it was as bad as this.

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Watching the replay of Griffin's knee buckling makes me sick. Good job you moron, your stupid, cheap ass decision to let your field turn into a quagmire probably ruined your best player. Good job by you, fool!


Put some of the blame on RGIII for wanting to stay in the game. Blame doesn't fall to one person.


As a coach though sometimes you have to take the player out even if he tells you he's fine. I remember a few years ago Gore tried to go back in with his bad hip and Singletary wouldn't let him.


Yea. It doesn't matter how much a player wants to go in the game. Adrenaline is pumping. Injuries seem less to the brain than they are. The player is running on pride and emotion. It's up to the coach to pull him out, tell him he's hardly able to limp, let alone run or walk. And it's not like they have Curtis Painter as their backup. Cousins has shown he can come into big games and do well. If he'd have started, or at least been given the reigns early, things might have gone differently. At the least, Griffin wouldn't have re-injured or re-aggravated his knee.

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Check out this article on the reaction on Twitter to RGIII's injury. Take note of the appearance at the end from our pal Doug Farrar.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-o ... ter-reacts

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There was a point in the game when the injury to RG3 is soley on the coach for keeping him in. Every player wants to play, and even 100% healthy any play can cause a career ending injury... but there was a point when keeping RG3 in was simply dangling his career on a string like a young man's life doesn't matter. And then with all the lies coming out about how Griffen's health was actually monitored, I am just stunned by the whole thing. Clearly trading 3 first round picks away and everything that went with what I saw today... there are people that care far too much about the wrong things.

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Wow, Prisco.

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Not surprised by Bayless' thoughts...surprises Doug Farrar went in on that ass though.


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 Post subject: Re: Dan Snyder ruined his Franchise QB
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RiggoReincarnated wrote:
Fox0r wrote:
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Watching the replay of Griffin's knee buckling makes me sick. Good job you moron, your stupid, cheap ass decision to let your field turn into a quagmire probably ruined your best player. Good job by you, fool!


Put some of the blame on RGIII for wanting to stay in the game. Blame doesn't fall to one person.


True. But Shanahan is 40 years older than RGIII. Would you expect Wilson to back down and take himself out if under the same circumstances?


Yes, actually. I mean, like any player he's going to underestimate the damage any injury has done to him, but I think if he's limping back into the huddle for every snap he would tell the coach that he wasn't capable of continuing at the standard expected of him.

Certainly I think Carroll would have pulled him a lot earlier, but we have a very capable backup in Flynn who is (arguably) the strongest backup in the league


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Saw a comment blaming Dr. James Andrews for putting doubt in Griffin's mind. I like to listen to other people's opinions but hard to understand how some people 'think'.


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Saw a comment blaming Dr. James Andrews for putting doubt in Griffin's mind. I like to listen to other people's opinions but hard to understand how some people 'think'.


I saw a long segment on ESPN where they were talking about that. Don't remember who was saying it, but might well have been Prisco. Besides wanting to step through the screen and throttle him for general idiocy, I really wanted to ask if that was the same Jedi mind trick Griffin used on Shanahan to get him to keep him in the game. So many talking heads were saying Shanahan wasn't to blame, Snyder wasn't to blame, nobody was to blame, because as Tim Hasselbeck said, "Shanahan said Griffin had earned the right to tell him whether he should be playing and he said he was fine. If Griffin said he was fine, then you stick him in there and let him play."

Essentially, for half of them, it all came back to blaming Griffin somewhat. Nobody wanted to allow for any blame up the chain of command, allow for any real decisions to be made to pull him out based on medical evaluation, play, or even seeing how badly he was limping out there. Not their fault - Griffin said he could do it, so obviously they had to leave him in.

And you know why? Everyone in the world was hoping for this miraculous win, gutting it out one-legged, by Griffin. The rookie hero, in spite of a terrible injury, gutted it out for the win against the league's toughest defense to bring his city the win! It was all Friday Night Lights storyline, and everyone was on board. They wanted Leftwich at Marshall. They wanted Jack Youngblood. They wanted an injured hero surpassing the odds to win the game. Problem is, that's not the best way to make a decision, and that's just what they did. And it likely came at the price of the kid's future and career.

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