Shock2k wrote:Hey guys, I didn't mean to sow hate. I literally thought it was funny I was already banned. I think Blue Talon is the only one they haven't banned. I'm really happy with all our fans on this board. One thing you can respect about that board is they really stick to their guns, they really won't allow any other fans.
I think it's only a matter of time. ES was actually the first football message board I ever joined, and it led to be becoming a member here. (I didn't know such things existed, but once I found that board, I wondered if there wasn't a Seahawks equivalent, searched, and happily found.) It was a lot different then. You could have reasonable discussions as a fan of opposing teams. Heck, even Cowboys/Giants/Eagles fans posted there and had reasonable discussions.
But that element seems to be completely gone. As others have mentioned, they have banned Seahawks fans who have not said anything remotely smackish (as well as the ones who did). It appears the if Seahawks fans post there, and don't immediately open with an apology for all the bad things Seahawks fans have ever done and recognition of all the good things about the Redskins, they are gone.
I haven't posted there since the beginning of the week. There just wasn't any point, they're so worked up.
I suspect I could get banned there for posting this here
CrankUpTheDiesel wrote:Either way, Redskins have to win this. For the Seahawks fans that wore Taylor jerseys with fake bullet holes in them, for the fans that threw food on Mike sellers family and daughter. For the disrespectful Seattle media that made taylor out to be some thug. Time for some well deserved pay back.
RolandDeschain wrote:So if someone with Taylor's rap sheet isn't a thug, then who is?
This is a fair point when talking about Sean Taylor in his early years. However, 21 was definitely turning things around. His fiance and him had a little girl, who he loved very much. As soon as she was born you could see a major difference in him. Now, if you don't believe people can make amends, fair enough. But when he was murdered, he was murdered protecting his fiance and daughter in his own home. He was absolutely once a thug, but that changed.
This is the balance that most on ES seem to lack. As a fanbase, Skins fans are obviously going to be very in tune with one of their own players, who goes from being a "thug" to responsible family man. But few others are going to keep track of it, know about it, or even care. What gets the headlines? The rap sheet. What do fans in Seattle know about Sean Taylor? The rap sheet. So it should have come as no surprise to anybody wearing red & yellow when, in discussions, Seahawk fans would refer to Taylor as a thug. (And no, "thug" is not a racist term. Not even close.)
It is perfectly reasonable for Skins fans to argue the case that he was a former
thug, and then presently aspiring family man, but it seems un
reasonable for Skins fans to be so upset that we didn't accord him the level of same respect they had for him. And that what the bulk of the anti-Seahawks venom there seems to be about.
Vandalism, abuse, and assaults are wrong whenever and wherever they happen. There seems to be no doubt that some incidents of that sort were inflicted upon Skins fans by Hawks fans, and I don't blame anybody for being upset about that. But at ES, they seem to have pumped up the anger of those incidents (while blowing them out of proportion?), and converted our general lack of respect for Sean Taylor + decided dis
respect by some, into perceived intense disrespect and racial hatred fanbase-wide.
The level of vitriol there is creepy. Seriously, if they were a group of people who were actually gathered together in one place, I'd be afraid a riot would break out at any moment.