http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/ ... ike-a-plan
NFC West is becoming a dominant conference looks like.
seahawks08 wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/87206/andy-reid-to-arizona-sounds-like-a-plan
NFC West is becoming a dominant conference looks like.
Shock2k wrote:seahawks08 wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/87206/andy-reid-to-arizona-sounds-like-a-plan
NFC West is becoming a dominant conference looks like.
Million dollar question, is Vic coming with him. Read earlier it's highly probably the Vic will go where Reid goes.
chris98251 wrote:Vick to Arizona would be a mistake for them, a blessing for everyone else in the NFC west. player to practice the read option on twice a year that throws interceptions.
chris98251 wrote:With our defense Earl would get an INT every time he thru that deep prayer as he scramled for his life.
peachesenregalia wrote:Like Pehawk said, if this was 2006, I'd be worried. Reid is no longer an effective head coach.
I'm actually really sad for that franchise and their fans. The squad of players Reid had at his disposal the last 2 seasons should have easily been good enough to win at least one superbowl. He missed the playoffs both times with them. He's just not that good. In my opinion, he would have been better of taking an OC position somewhere.
SmokinHawk wrote:peachesenregalia wrote:Like Pehawk said, if this was 2006, I'd be worried. Reid is no longer an effective head coach.
I'm actually really sad for that franchise and their fans. The squad of players Reid had at his disposal the last 2 seasons should have easily been good enough to win at least one superbowl. He missed the playoffs both times with them. He's just not that good. In my opinion, he would have been better of taking an OC position somewhere.
Reid, like Holmgren was, is a coach who is trying to apply 1980s football paradigms in the modern NFL. You just can't get by with execution alone anymore. The NFL today is schematically much more complex than it was in the days of Bill Walsh's prolific offense. He is a dinosaur who refuses to adjust his offensive mindset to match the complexion of the contemporary game. Reid would be a disaster in Arizona. I hope like hell he gets the job.
hawksfan515 wrote:http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000121034/article/andy-reid-to-tell-arizona-cardinals-hell-fix-kevin-kolb
oh great. Andy Reid says he'll "fix" Kolb. I do not want that to happen in the slightest.
peachesenregalia wrote:Like Pehawk said, if this was 2006, I'd be worried. Reid is no longer an effective head coach.
I'm actually really sad for that franchise and their fans. The squad of players Reid had at his disposal the last 2 seasons should have easily been good enough to win at least one superbowl. He missed the playoffs both times with them. He's just not that good. In my opinion, he would have been better of taking an OC position somewhere.
kearly wrote:I really liked Holmgren's / Heckert's drafts the last 3 years in Cleveland (Weeden exempted). They drafted a lot of players I felt were sleepers and they transformed that defense into a group that was young and talented. They made some good moves on offense too. Too bad the QB position royally screwed it all up for them. Which is pretty ironic given Holmgren's track record.peachesenregalia wrote:Like Pehawk said, if this was 2006, I'd be worried. Reid is no longer an effective head coach.
I'm actually really sad for that franchise and their fans. The squad of players Reid had at his disposal the last 2 seasons should have easily been good enough to win at least one superbowl. He missed the playoffs both times with them. He's just not that good. In my opinion, he would have been better of taking an OC position somewhere.
What about the 12 seasons he had before those last two? Reid has had a terrific career as a coach, he's just down on his luck right now. Same thing was true with Jeff Fisher. Otherwise, coaches like that would never be available.
kearly wrote:Maybe, but it's a great gamble to take, IMO.
HawkGA wrote:Or maybe he's going to the Chiefs instead. If he goes to Kansas City, he's a fool.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88090 ... fs-sources
volsunghawk wrote:HawkGA wrote:Or maybe he's going to the Chiefs instead. If he goes to Kansas City, he's a fool.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88090 ... fs-sources
Why's that?
If KC will give him personnel control, he gets a relatively weak division in a relatively weak conference (which should make turning a team around easier), the #1 overall draft pick, and a better owner situation.
Certainly a better scenario than going to Arizona where he'll be in a dogfight with 3 strong-to-dominant teams for the foreseeable future while he's trying to rebuild.
HawkGA wrote:volsunghawk wrote:HawkGA wrote:Or maybe he's going to the Chiefs instead. If he goes to Kansas City, he's a fool.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88090 ... fs-sources
Why's that?
If KC will give him personnel control, he gets a relatively weak division in a relatively weak conference (which should make turning a team around easier), the #1 overall draft pick, and a better owner situation.
Certainly a better scenario than going to Arizona where he'll be in a dogfight with 3 strong-to-dominant teams for the foreseeable future while he's trying to rebuild.
That's a fair point about the divisions. I just think Arizona is closer to being a good team than KC. But being a good team and being competitive in your division are two different things.
Still, I've been to Phoenix and I've driven through KC. I'd take Phoenix in a heartbeat!
** Edit **
Of course Reid looks like the kind of guy who might appreciate some good BBQ so maybe KC wouldn't be such a bad choice.
Sarlacc83 wrote:
On the opposite side of the city thing, Kansas City would appreciate Reid far more than Arizona would if he started winning for them.
HawkGA wrote:Sarlacc83 wrote:
On the opposite side of the city thing, Kansas City would appreciate Reid far more than Arizona would if he started winning for them.
Along those same lines, Phoenix may be a little easier to handle if he doesn't turn things around. He might need that after coming out of Philly.
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