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 Post Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:48 pm 
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NO SACKS for us.
6 for them.
OK, I didn't watch any bit of the game since I live in MI.
We are seriously lacking in the sack dept. Since I didn't see the game, did we even get pressure?
I really hate living where I do. lol.

Oh, and for the record, Morris scares me more than Griffin.
But I do have confidence in DangeRuss.
It should be a great game this weekend. :th2thumbs:


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I think Pete was holding something back because the game was meaningless, and he didn't want to tip his hand to Washington.

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Clemons put pretty good pressure on Bradford. Came very close to having a fumble causing sack for a scoop and score. Tuck rule. There were the usual tackling of the rusher by the OL. Got a call against Mebane. But yes, Bradford had all day. Irvin was his usual self. Got close a few times . A couple of hurries and maybe a few hits.

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We are seriously lacking in the sack dept.


That's funny! Probably unintentionally...

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We had a lot of pressure and "almost sacks" for what it's worth. This with a very vanilla scheme across the board. Change a couple of penalties and stupid plays and the score is probably closer to 30-6 than how it ended. I'm not as worried as you might be just looking at the stats.

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I'll take a game where we don't get any sacks and take six sacks but we win. Any day.

You should subscribe to NFL's Game Rewind (or whatever it's called). I saved my sanity a couple times this season when I had to miss a game's live broadcast.

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Our defense is not built to generate sacks. It is built first to stop the run and second to defend the pass. Of course there must be pressure but PC and Bradley are unwilling to blitz to create that pressure. Unfortunately, we do not have that super elite DE that can get sacks all on his own. Hopefully Irvin can be that guy one day, but I don't see it happening until we find an elite pass rushing interior DT.


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I'm still under the impression once SF scored it's 2 TD on the Cardinals, we started backing of the gas (from a play calling perspective). It was almost like they were testing things out. I mean did you see that strange soft zone the secondary was playing in the second half. Really look at the game, how odd was that? Did that look anything you saw in the past 4 weeks?

Besides St. Louis, 7th ranked defense this year, Washington 17th.


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I'm not worried. I also think the last game was pretty vanilla. I think we used it to get Sweezy some good experience against a super defensive line.

I will be super disappointed if we don't win Saturday. I don't see us losing this game (but I have been wrong before).


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NO SACKS for us.
6 for them.
OK, I didn't watch any bit of the game since I live in MI.
We are seriously lacking in the sack dept. Since I didn't see the game, did we even get pressure?
I really hate living where I do. lol.

Oh, and for the record, Morris scares me more than Griffin.
But I do have confidence in DangeRuss.
It should be a great game this weekend. :th2thumbs:


That same team that had zero sacks went 11-5. Don't dismiss the Ram's D line, and don't judge a team by stats alone out of context.

Also, go to a bar to watch games.

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The Ram's D-Line was beastin' it up. Washington doesn't have the personnel to do what St. Louis did.


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Rams also had a the dink and dunk going. Screens and short passes generating YAC. I would like to see a stat showing how many times Sammy Threw it more that 5 yards in the air. It was not much.

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Thanks for the replies. For the record, I cannot afford game rewind nor can I just go to a sports bar. I don't drive(disabled) and have no income coming in myself. I was also in transit with my husband on our way to my sister's house(they live 30 miles away). We then traveled to another location with them for a New Year's party.
I did say in my original post that I had no way to view the game and could only view stats. I really appreciate all the input and feel much better now. BTW, I'm in!!!!


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Well we did have two TD's taken away also. The first one drew a penalty on McCoy for setting a pick and it was kind of but a call that really would only come in a game the officials call 24 penalties. The second was a sack fumble that looked to me that Bradford lost control of the ball before his hand was moving forward and even if it didn't it had to be intentional grounding. But that call is one that always goes in favor of teams like the packers or Steelers.

We really had nothing to play for and that game might as well of been the Rams super bowl and the Rams are significantly improved. That we came away with a win is impressive to me.

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Seahwkgal wrote:
Thanks for the replies. For the record, I cannot afford game rewind nor can I just go to a sports bar. I don't drive(disabled) and have no income coming in myself. I was also in transit with my husband on our way to my sister's house(they live 30 miles away). We then traveled to another location with them for a New Year's party.
I did say in my original post that I had no way to view the game and could only view stats. I really appreciate all the input and feel much better now. BTW, I'm in!!!!


I now live in Michigan as well and feel your frustration at the lack of Seahawks coverage. What used to be free for me living in Bellevue on King5 or Q13 is now unavailable.


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Andrea, my viewing here in Socal is the same. Hawks are never on, so when I switched to Directv I got free Sunday ticket for this year.

Not worried about the sack total from the ram game as that was a perfect game to get us ready for the playoffs, hard fought and won at the end.

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I think a lot of people are HOPING that we were just vanilla intentionally to keep something for the playoffs, but none of us really know. The simpler explanation is that we just can't generate pass rush with the personnel we have right now.

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i watched the game again last night on Replay.. morris was vertually untouched running through the holes, that's why he was able to gash Dallas for big gain after another, then when they did get to him the missed tackle after tackle... Dallas Defense is putred, i would not put much stock into that performance to measure his ability... damn good back, but he can be contained. RG3 scares me way more than morris.

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I will be super disappointed if we don't win Saturday. I don't see us losing this game (but I have been wrong before).

You will be disappointed then.

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Statistically sacks should be rated at different levels to sort big losses, turnover, gurney type sacks from the mickey mouse type. Like sex, their all good, but...


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i watched the game again last night on Replay.. morris was vertually untouched running through the holes, that's why he was able to gash Dallas for big gain after another, then when they did get to him the missed tackle after tackle... Dallas Defense is putred, i would not put much stock into that performance to measure his ability... damn good back, but he can be contained. RG3 scares me way more than morris.

He's been doing it all year though. 1600 yards and 13 TDs. With a gimpy RG3, shutting down AlMo should be your guys focus. RG3 has been off with his accuracy since his injury as well. Making him beat me would be my gameplan.

The reason Dallas went with the gameplan of stopping the pass was due to Thanksgivings 304 yard 4TD performance. Pick your poison.


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When the Hawks REALLY wanted serious pressure on Bradford, they got it.

It isn't like the Rams scored a bunch of points, they positioned the Line and Bradford in a spot to protect him well, but tried to spread the defense.

Ultimately, it didn't work.

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I am also worried about the 6 sacks on Wilson. Anyone want to tell me about that since I didn't see the game? Sweezy?


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Seahawkgal it was kinda a combo if the whole line. The Rams have a very good defensive line and they were bringing it. The Hawks didnt help themselves by using any plays such as screens or draws to slow down the pressure. Just my opinion but we need to do something different this week if they bring pressure early and often.


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i watched the game again last night on Replay.. morris was vertually untouched running through the holes, that's why he was able to gash Dallas for big gain after another, then when they did get to him the missed tackle after tackle... Dallas Defense is putred, i would not put much stock into that performance to measure his ability... damn good back, but he can be contained. RG3 scares me way more than morris.

He's been doing it all year though. 1600 yards and 13 TDs. With a gimpy RG3, shutting down AlMo should be your guys focus. RG3 has been off with his accuracy since his injury as well. Making him beat me would be my gameplan.

The reason Dallas went with the gameplan of stopping the pass was due to Thanksgivings 304 yard 4TD performance. Pick your poison.


this was in response to a posters concern about morris agaist Dallas so i was just focusing on that game.. i'm fully aware Morris has been outstanding all season... but he can be contained, especially since Bob is a bit gimpy now, he will be a little more one demintional, but still dangerous to scramble as we saw against dallas.. it will be a tough matchup for sure.

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I am also worried about the 6 sacks on Wilson. Anyone want to tell me about that since I didn't see the game? Sweezy?

Partially, but most were coverage sacks wherein Wilson couldn't find an open receiver and couldn't escape the pressure (usually from two defenders) when he stopped looking down field.

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I am also worried about the 6 sacks on Wilson. Anyone want to tell me about that since I didn't see the game? Sweezy?

Partially, but most were coverage sacks wherein Wilson couldn't find an open receiver and couldn't escape the pressure (usually from two defenders) when he stopped looking down field.


They have a great D-Line and sacks tend to come in bunches. It happens.

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When the Hawks REALLY wanted serious pressure on Bradford, they got it....

Yes. Late in the game they dialed up some blitzing after going 4 man rush nearly the entire game before that. It worked too as Bradford lost accuracy and nearly fumbled for a TD for Seattle (damn tuck rule!!). I also am hoping Pete and Gus chose only to blitz late to secure the win and were vanilla before that so as not to show too much to the Foreskins relative this week.

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I think Pete was holding something back because the game was meaningless, and he didn't want to tip his hand to Washington.

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Partly true. But let's give the Rams some credit, they have a very good front seven (much better than Washington's).........and they truly did play their ass off for pride.

IMO the stats from the Rams game show that the Rams are a much improved football team that matches up well against the Hawks, rather than anything to worry about with the Skins game.

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I will be super disappointed if we don't win Saturday. I don't see us losing this game (but I have been wrong before).

You will be disappointed then.


I know, I keep doing this. :oops: I got my internal clock set for Saturday for the playoff games.


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The lack of pressure/pass rush is a concern but IMO it had to do with having a Clemons/Mebane/Branch/Bryant Dline. There's only one pass-rush specialist in that scenario. This is where not having Jason Jones hurts. However, when they put Scruggs in, he was better than Branch but not to the level of Jones. Hopefully, they will be work that out this week. They need to get more pressure on the QB. Outside pressure isn't effective when there isn't any push from the inside. Bradford is as stiff as it comes (terms of mobility) and they couldn't lay a hand on him. Not good.


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