HansGruber wrote:Im not really digging all the stories about Sherman hating his old coach. Shows a lack of mental discipline. We've all worked for a boss we hated, but carrying that hate around erodes a man's character and distracts from the necessary tasks at hand.
My gut tells me, from watching Sherman in interviews, that most of this stuff is being blown a bit out of proportion after his post game comments on Sunday.
First of all, it sounds like this was a private conversation, not a public statement. And Sherman wasn't the one that brought up Harbaugh.
Second, someone who excelled both on the field/track and in the classroom in high-school in Compton and was able to get into and graduate from Stanford doesn't suffer "lack of mental discipline".
Now, my understanding of what happened is that Sherman chose Stanford over USC because of the Stanford educaion and because Walt Harris recruited him as a WR while Pete was recruting him as a CB.
Sherman got injured his JR year, and decided to have surgery, using an injury redshirt. Harbaugh didn't like that. The next year, Harbaugh had buried Sherman on the WR depth chart, despite Sherman being Stanford's leading receiver before the injury (so he got the Alex Smith treatment). Sherman decided to move to CB both for playing time and because Stanford needed more help there anyway.
As for Baldwin, for some reason he got in Harbaugh's doghouse in his soph and jr years, but I don't know why. But it resulted in him not getting much playing time (and he also had nagging injuries to deal with). In his senior year, somehow he got out of Harbaugh's doghouse and had a great year, becoming Luck's primary target (though I think officially he was below Owusu on the depth chart, but Owusu missed lots of games with injury). I don't know about Harbaugh bad-mouthing Baldwin to NFL scouts. Shaw said in an interview with Softy that he talked up Baldwin to NFL scouts but they were reluctant to draft him because of his size and that he'd only had one great year. After the Orange Bowl, Harbaugh announced his intent to go to the NFL, and Baldwin led a campaign by certain players to have Shaw named as Stanford's head coach (even though Baldwin was graduating, so he woudln't be affected anyway).
Whatever the case is, it's delicious irony to have Sherman and Baldwin as key weapons against Harbaugh, in the service of Pete, of all people.
I agree with you that that stories of Sherman and/or Baldwin hating Harbaugh are being blown out of proportion. It's worth noting that Sherman was a Walt Harris recruit rather than a Harbaugh one, and I think the same is true of Baldwin (I think Harris' staff recruited him, but Harris was fired and replaced by Harbaugh, so it may be that Harbaugh had been named head coach by the time LOI day came around), so they weren't "Harbaugh's boys".