JSeahawks":21dv2vke said:
Yea, he apparently wants out of Minnesota. I think he'd be the perfect piece to fill in this offense. I'd be willing to go as high as a 2nd rounder this year.
For me the hard part is the money aspect. I'm assuming Harvin will want at least DeSean Jackson money ($10 million per). Having that kind of contract on the books almost forces Seattle to release Zach Miller to make ends meet while still having a prayer of locking up some of our big name free agents in 2014.
Then you have the 2nd round pick- that pick could be a player like Robert Woods, Marcus Wheaton, Keenan Allen, Tavon Austin, or DeAndre Hopkins among others.
So basically if we did that trade, it would be like trading Miller + Woods/Allen/Wheaton/Austin/Hopkins for Harvin. I think we are better not making that deal.
Harvin does make sense for Seattle, but like every move cost matters. The reason the Seahawks are so good right now is because they are loaded with outstanding players on dirt cheap contracts. Then you factor in the draft pick, and it's a double whammy, because draft picks turn into good, cheap players that add more wins per dollar than all but the most stellar free agents do.
I think if Harvin cost a 7th round pick and signed a 5/25 type contract, obviously I'd want Seattle to be all over that. But at 5/50 and a 2nd, that's way too rich for me. I think my ceiling would probably be a 4th rounder (since these are easy to acquire from draft day trade downs) and a Sidney Rice type contract. Anything more than that, and I'm not interested.
Of course, it's possible Seattle just isn't interested in Harvin. This is a great draft for WRs that fit the Ted Thompson/John Schneider profile, and I think it's the real reason why John Schneider bad mouthed last year's WR class, which was universally considered to be an above average class. Harvin is talking his way off a team that has a real chance to make the playoffs next week. He has a reputation as a "me first" player. He's also the only WR worth a damn on a team that has a limited, 1-read QB, and that really blows his production out of the water. He's still really good and nearly peerless after the catch, but there are reasons to approach him with caution.
At the right price, I'd be stoked to get him. I think he'd fit our offense well. He'd provide a successor to Leon Washington on special teams. He'd allow Carroll/Bevell to open up the playbook even more. I don't expect him to put up huge numbers for us like he did in Minnesota, but for the right price I think he makes a ton of sense.
seahawk2k":21dv2vke said:
Wilson's interception was partially his fault, the ball was too high and he should've just thrown it at Turbin's feet, the 49ers were all over that play and it was the only time that night where they really attacked a play. They were on their heels the rest of the evening.
Wilson had to throw over a pass rusher and elevate his throw. It's pretty routine to see that on a screen play. Turbin had two hands on it. It wasn't the easiest throw/catch but we're talking about a ball that went like 8 feet. He has to catch that. It wasn't automatic, but a great 3rd down back would make it look like it. I thought it was a much easier pass to catch than his drop in the first game that cost a touchdown. I don't think Wilson could have seen Willis. Willis came out of nowhere in a hurry to blow that play up, and had he missed, Turbin would have had a huge gain. But if Wilson did see it, then yeah, throwing the ball into the ground would have been the best COA. Either way, I put close to 0% of the blame on that interception on Wilson. It was mostly Turbin but also partly luck and partly a great effort by Willis.
