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MontanaHawk05
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:30 pm |
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Bakergirl wrote: There is simply no scientific evidence to support that he is anything other than... Of course there isn't. Not overt, anyways. God hasn't set things up to where man can reach him through his own intellect and observation. Where would the honor be for him in that? Bakergirl wrote: ...and the desperate hope of mankind for something greater than themselves, so they don't have to fear their own mortality. Desperate hope? Do you have ANY idea how inconvenient God is to my daily life? I don't get to make my own decisions, I don't get to indulge my impulses, I don't even get to follow the path of common sense and ordinary wisdom because there might be a "just trust me, I've got something better" moment around every corner. Real Christians struggle all the time with surrendering their lives to God, and we honestly don't even give a thought to eternity most days (though we probably should). It's much more about the present. So kindly spare me the "inside scoop" on why people choose faith and how they maintain it. You're claiming to be an expert on something you have no idea about.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:36 pm |
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Why would an obviously intelligent person like yourself do that? God and his rules are what seems to an outsider simply man made.
If there was a God and he wanted for you to praise him and even more importantly know he exists, don't you think we would be born with this understanding?
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:32 pm |
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SonicHawk wrote: Why would an obviously intelligent person like yourself do that? God and his rules are what seems to an outsider simply man made.
If there was a God and he wanted for you to praise him and even more importantly know he exists, don't you think we would be born with this understanding? That's the point though, if we were born with that understanding there would be nothing to learn.
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MontanaHawk05
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:05 pm |
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SonicHawk wrote: Why would an obviously intelligent person like yourself do that? God and his rules are what seems to an outsider simply man made.
If there was a God and he wanted for you to praise him and even more importantly know he exists, don't you think we would be born with this understanding? Well, unfortunately, we're also born with sin. But it is taught that God is evident from creation itself. A lot of people (I know you're not amongst them, because we've had this discussion before) just don't see anything but intelligent design in the universe.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:51 pm |
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JSeahawks wrote: Bottom line: I dont give a shit if you believe in God, I dont give a shit if you don't believe in God. This was a harmless thread that could have been real funny and entertaining and had nothing to do with religion until a few assholes tried to push their agenda's, and that annoys the shit out of me. No you don't  GOD was mentioned by the OP, you just can't sort out what's appropriate, and what offends your wittle feewlings. IF you and the others were steadfast in your beliefs that there is no GOD?, you wouldn't be angered, or squirming, and feel the need to answer these posts with a negative to the people and their faith. You say that they need to PROVE something to you?,,,That's why it's called "FAITH", some have it, some seek it and some want nothing to do with it. I used to doubt, I don't anymore. I used to question the existence of Aliens, I don't really know for fact, so I don't put down people who swear by it. I don't have all the answers, and neither does anyone else that post around here
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:38 pm |
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scutterhawk wrote: JSeahawks wrote: Bottom line: I dont give a shit if you believe in God, I dont give a shit if you don't believe in God. This was a harmless thread that could have been real funny and entertaining and had nothing to do with religion until a few assholes tried to push their agenda's, and that annoys the shit out of me. No you don't  GOD was mentioned by the OP, you just can't sort out what's appropriate, and what offends your wittle feewlings. IF you and the others were steadfast in your beliefs that there is no GOD?, you wouldn't be angered, or squirming, and feel the need to answer these posts with a negative to the people and their faith. You say that they need to PROVE something to you?,,,That's why it's called "FAITH", some have it, some seek it and some want nothing to do with it. I used to doubt, I don't anymore. I used to question the existence of Aliens, I don't really know for fact, so I don't put down people who swear by it. I don't have all the answers, and neither does anyone else that post around here Uh... first of all my feelings werent hurt. There's not a single thing that could be said on a message board that could possibly hurt my feelings. Secondly, when did i say i need proof, when was I negative to anybody with faith, adn when did i say i dont believe?
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:14 pm |
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JSeahawks wrote: scutterhawk wrote: JSeahawks wrote: Bottom line: I dont give a shit if you believe in God, I dont give a shit if you don't believe in God. This was a harmless thread that could have been real funny and entertaining and had nothing to do with religion until a few assholes tried to push their agenda's, and that annoys the shit out of me. Uh... first of all my feelings werent hurt. There's not a single thing that could be said on a message board that could possibly hurt my feelings. Secondly, when did i say i need proof, when was I negative to anybody with faith, adn when did i say i dont believe? You said it yourself JS, "A Few Assholes", and agenda's???? Now you don't want to hang with your statement??, bullshit. Who are you to JUDGE?
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:26 pm |
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scutterhawk wrote: JSeahawks wrote: scutterhawk wrote: Uh... first of all my feelings werent hurt. There's not a single thing that could be said on a message board that could possibly hurt my feelings. Secondly, when did i say i need proof, when was I negative to anybody with faith, adn when did i say i dont believe? You said it yourself JS, "A Few Assholes", and agenda's???? Now you don't want to hang with your statement??, bullshit. Who are you to JUDGE? I think you're confused about who I was calling the assholes... Although yo'ure doing a pretty good job of being one now.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:28 am |
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MontanaHawk05 wrote: Desperate hope? Do you have ANY idea how inconvenient God is to my daily life? I don't get to make my own decisions, I don't get to indulge my impulses, I don't even get to follow the path of common sense and ordinary wisdom because there might be a "just trust me, I've got something better" moment around every corner. Real Christians struggle all the time with surrendering their lives to God, and we honestly don't even give a thought to eternity most days (though we probably should). It's much more about the present.
So kindly spare me the "inside scoop" on why people choose faith and how they maintain it. You're claiming to be an expert on something you have no idea about. The small percentage of "Christians" that actually put forth that effort do so out of self-interest. The bible says do it, or spend eternity in hell, suffering.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:33 pm |
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MontanaHawk05 wrote: Bakergirl wrote: There is simply no scientific evidence to support that he is anything other than... Of course there isn't. Not overt, anyways. God hasn't set things up to where man can reach him through his own intellect and observation. Where would the honor be for him in that? Actually, he kinda did. Romans 2&3 indicates certain things about God may be learned by people observing the world around them.
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