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Which season had you more pumped at Wk 16?
2012 49%  49%  [ 53 ]
2005 48%  48%  [ 52 ]
Other (if there was another feel free to post it) 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
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I've been thinking about this alot lately. I am really pumped about this team, and I'm definitely more excited about what the future years hold, but when I compare how I felt about the 2005 season at this point and how I feel about this 2012 season right this moment, I still say I was more pumped about 2005, it was just an amazing time to be a Seahawk fan. What say you?

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It's tough but I have a feeling 2013 is gonna blow both seasons waaaay out of the water.


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I was more pumped in 05 but I like this team/management better. I think we have more upside than ever before but that 05 season was the tops for me. I may change my mind in a few weeks though.


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I am really pumped this year but I have to go with 2005. We had won 10 in a row at that point and were the #1 seed. This year is great, but I'm not sure it tops that scenario.

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I am more exited about the future of this team but at this point it's kinda hard to top 2005.


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Correct me if Im wrong, but Week 16 we were playing the undefeated Colts at Qwest where everybody thought was going to be The Super Bowl matchup. Colts had everything locked up, thus played their starters like a half and we won (I think we would have won that game regardless.

2012 imo is a better team overall playing against the Division leading 49ers on SNF two days before Christmas.


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We were the number 1 seed at that point in 2005 and I was excited beyond belief. Right now is great, but 2005 was on another level for me based on the standings.


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Before the start of the 2005 season I was telling anyone that would listen that 05 was going to be special, even had couple debate/arguments about it. I get a feeling I will feel this way next year but not quite as much just yet.
As for being pumped for the future, we had just brought in a new high profile GM that brought in Joe Jur in the off season, drafted Tatupu, Hill and a first round center to replace the 37 year old (still great but aging) Tobeck. Tubbs finally got over the injury bug, big Walt was locked up long term, we were in negotiations with Hutch and had tons of cap room to make it happen.
Alexander was league MVP and Hasselbeck was an all pro.

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Had to go with 2012 as I was recovering from a stroke week 16 2005. Priorities got a major make over that year. :34853_tinfoil:

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had we be going into sundays game with SF full strength, i would probably have voted for 2012... but since we're not 05. either way both years it was fun to be a hawk fan.

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hawker84 wrote:
had we be going into sundays game with SF full strength, i would probably have voted for 2012... but since we're not 05. either way both years it was fun to be a hawk fan.


Sure we're a little banged up right now, but who isnt this late in the season. Seahawks have great depth plus the 12th Man is the ultimate equalizer. We're actually pretty healthy as whole right now though.


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I voted 2005 because that seemed like a destiny year. I thought we had multiple factors hitting at just the right time to make that year special, and I thought that it was going to be one of those "everything came together" scenarios.

This year doesn't feel quite as exciting for me because it's a little different. I feel like this team can compete with and beat anyone, but I don't get the same "we WILL beat everyone" vibe I got in 2005. That said, I get the sense that this team will be a SB contender for the several years whereas I didn't have that feeling about the 2005 team, due to some of the more glaring flaws the team had and the ages of its stars.

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2012 for me, mostly because of our youth. 2005 was great but with so many aging vets that year you knew it may the only chance.


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The only real aging vet was Tobeck and we drafted Spencer with our first pick, who at the time we were all excited about. Myself and everyone I knew were talking about a possible dynasty.

Hind sight is great but if you ignore all the events that derailed the 05 team, we had every reason to believe a dynasty was possible. Unfortunately the 05 draft and FA was the only one for Ruskell and pretty much everything he touched turned into but nuggets but we didn't know that until later.

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This season has been great fun and the future looks super duper bright. But 12-2 > 9-5. That offense was a well oiled machine and was truly something to behold.

So as of right now 05 > 12 but that could most definitely change before the year is up.

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2005 week 16 was a nationally televised game vs the other best team in the NFL, the Colts. It was a match up of a 13-1 vs 12-2... we had to win the game to cement the #1 seed..

I was not at the game but it was also the game where SA tied the NFL TD record late in the 4th Q..

The game was overshadowed by the unfortunate death of Tony Dungy's son earlier that week and the fact that Manning only played a little into the 2nd Q. Blocked FG and TDs on the first drives.. great game

2005 is the best season ever for a Hawks fan.. the only thing close to awesomeness of that season was the Tate catch..

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The only real aging vet was Tobeck and we drafted Spencer with our first pick, who at the time we were all excited about. Myself and everyone I knew were talking about a possible dynasty.

Hind sight is great but if you ignore all the events that derailed the 05 team, we had every reason to believe a dynasty was possible. Unfortunately the 05 draft and FA was the only one for Ruskell and pretty much everything he touched turned into but nuggets but we didn't know that until later.


Even going on your scenario, we were looking at 2-4 years the way that team was built. This team, I believe we are looking at 8-10 years of success. Of course the future holds the unknown and things can change, but we have so many young stars that I get a stronger feeling for longer term success, but I still had more of an excitement about the current year success at this time in 2005

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The only real aging vet was Tobeck and we drafted Spencer with our first pick, who at the time we were all excited about. Myself and everyone I knew were talking about a possible dynasty.


What? Gray, Tobeck, Big Walt, Engram, Strong, and Hasselbeck were all on the wrong side of 30. Jurevicius - who was a key addition - was over 30. Alexander, who was outstanding, was creeping up on the age when RBs traditionally decline. That was a massive percentage of the team's offense - which was obviously its dominant unit - starting to hit ages where injuries and ineffectiveness really start to show.

Our defense was younger, but made up of a lot of FAs and nowhere near as effective as the offense. It was opportunistic, but still susceptible (only finished 16th in the league in yards allowed).

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2005 was a magic carpet ride. The story of this season has yet to be written but it has potential.

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2005 was a magic carpet ride. The story of this season has yet to be written but it has potential.


I'm not sure If I love the implication of your new avatar, or if I wonder why you had to have him in a practice jersey :)

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In 2005, during that winning streak, I believed the Hawks were unbeatable.

That's why the SB hurt so bad. I had forgotten that it was even possible for that team to lose (the GB game in Week 17 didnt count since the starters sat out most of it).

I was more amped in 2005 because of that. This team still makes me nervous sometimes, even after the last 2 weeks. I'm excited, but not nearly as confident. In 2005 I had both.

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This is a really good question but I have to go with 2012 because in 2005 we had the #1 seed but something to remember that the NFC was very weak that year and This year Seahawks are doing things not even is fans could thought possible!

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Aros wrote:
2005 was a magic carpet ride. The story of this season has yet to be written but it has potential.


i think i like this answer the best


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2005. First time the Seahawks simply dominated. As Lou Gramm used to sing, Feels like the first time! The thing I remember most about 2005 were the 80 yard drives for TDs which seemed to be almost automatic.

Got to say this year has been incredible, save for a couple of meltdowns against inferior opponents. The future looks bright. :0190l:


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Although I was stoked for 2005 I chose this season because.

I love who we have playing on the team and our upside. 2005 always felt like smoke and mirrors. Now I will say I was jack pumped then but the team felt soft. It felt lucky and the players were not long time future players on the team.

So I voted that this team looks more sustainable and more long term so that gets the nod in the vote as a team I am more excited about.

PS we were all excited at week 16 but we are all now looking back knowing we got to the SB. At week 16 we did not know that and after all the years of frustration were not confident we would make the SB. Yea I know a bunch of people will jump out and say they knew it but the reality is at week 16 I think we still were worried and had questions about the D and the team.

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Wow, not even in the playoffs yet and we are comparing this year to the greatest season in Seahawks history?

At this point in 2005 we had won 10 in a row, Peyton Manning and the Colts were coming to town, and we were about to clinch homefield throughout the playoffs. It was fantastic. This year doesn't compare, 2005 was like a dream, at least until February 2nd.


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For me, it's 2005 and not it's not even close.

In 2005 at this time, it was "we are going to win the SB and there is no team that will stop us" We had the #1 seed locked up and were two playoffs games away from the biggest game ever.

How can 2012 possibly compete with that?

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That said, no question, 2012.


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I'm actually shocked at the results so far. Absolute craziness to me

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2005 was truly a great time but I was going through terrible times personally so it was bittersweet(symphony)? Im living in the now and feel that we haven't reached our potential so there are feelings that were not the powerhouse that 2005 was. Does that make sense?


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I am definitely more excited about this year's team. This team just feels special. The 05 team beat a lot of bad teams and good teams playing their backup QBs. The 05 team seemed to be a finesse team on both sides of the ball. This year's team will punch other teams in the mouth and other teams aren't willing to fight back. It has taken a while for this team to mesh together and play well, but not nearly as long as the 05 team did. How many years were we waiting for the 05 team to show up? This year's team has shown up earlier than most expected.

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I really feel like this seahawks team would slaughter the 2005 team. too physical. djack,dj hackett, engram, aren't gonna be able to deal with the legion. shawn would get his yards thanks to walt/hutch on the left. maybe even a touchdown. but more than likely get injured by halftime having to carry the ball so much.

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The 2005 team was a team at their peak. They were just unstoppable when they needed to score. The defense was a big time QB pressure D that was extremely disruptive.

The 2012 team is on the rise still. They are loaded with flat out ballers. Guys like Tate, Okung, Unger, McCoy, Sherman, Earl, Kam and grown even more since their first year. The rookies are amazing. Irvin, Wilson and Wagner are just incredible for the little experience they have in the league. This on top of the young vets continuing to maintain their play.

Where the 05 team was laden with experience, the 12 team is laden with talent, skill and youth. They are basically just bruisers with exceptional speed. We are just being rewarded by their rapid development with some wins that some didn't think we would get out of them.

For me, this team is dangerous because it is like playing with house money. They are extremely confident yet composed, having a lot of fun and know that they can beat anybody.

I think if the 2005 team played the 2012 team, the 2005 team would win, but not by much and they would all be on pain meds and icing up after the game.

Next year is going to be special, really special. This year I am just enjoying the ride.

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There really is no comparison to make. We haven't made the playoffs yet this year.

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I too don't really see a huge similarity. The 2005 team had a lot more vets. This team is very young. I think as perhaps to be expected is getting better week to week. They have some growth issues but they seem to get over them

This team I really am enjoying. We have not played a bunch of < .500 teams instead we have played and beat some of the best.


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Given how the current team is statistically better than the 2005 version (and it's not even that close), and given that Holmgren's teams always struggled against physical heavyweights, I'm pretty sure the 2012 team would kick the crap out of the 2005 version in a head to head game. I also think our long term future is much brighter now than it was in 2005. I can't comment on the 1983 team, but at least during my time as a Seahawks fan, the 2012 version is the best, most compete Seahawks team I have ever watched.

That said, I think I have to vote 2005 for one simple reason: By week 16 in 2005 Seattle already had the #1 seed in the bag. This team has very faint hopes for the #2 or #3, but it's more likely that they'll end up at #5 or #6. In 2005 the Seahawks faced the #5 and #6 seeds (both at home) before facing a #6 seed in the Superbowl. It was literally the easiest path to a championship possible. By comparison this year's team might end up having to beat three of the top 4 NFC seeds (in a year when the NFC is loaded), and then move on to the big game to potentially face the best Patriots team to lose a game in the regular season or the best Denver team, maybe ever*, and Denver's been to 5 Superbowls. All on the road. It doesn't get much tougher than that.

So I think 2005 would be the honest answer, even if I think that 2012 is clearly the right answer from a big picture perspective.

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There really is no comparison to make. We haven't made the playoffs yet this year.


That was the point of the question. It's. Not about this full year vs that full year, it is a gauge of how we felt as fans at this point in each season. Personally I felt invincible that season, this year I feel really great about this team and believe we can beat anyone but I don't have the same level of enthusiasm as I had in 2005. Thought it would make an interesting topic that can be revisited this offseason to see if feelings change.

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I voted this year because I think we are the begining of something great, I just have this feeling that the 2010s decade is going to be for the Seahawks, what the 2000s were for the Patriots, what the 90s were for the Cowboys, what the 80s were for 49ers, what the 70s were for the Steelers, what the 60s were for the Packers. In 2005 I just felt we were in a 2-3 year window and remember Holmgren was in his 7th Season and everyone was at his peak at that time.


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"That was the most physical game I've ever been a part of."

Who said this? Tiki Barber after the Giants game in 2005.

I think all this "soft" talk about the Hawks is a little revisionist. They had size and pretty damn solid depth on the defensive line. The linebackers could hit, the secondary was very deep. They ran the ball whenever they wanted wherever they wanted.

That team, was not soft. Some other Holmgren teams were, but lets not let our revisionist history cloud that.

11 wins in a row. Absolutely dominating performances week after week. 13-3, number 1 seed. I was absolutely walking on air by week 16 because we were about to sew up HFA. I was pretty damn confident the Hawks were going to Detroit.


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2005 for the reason already mentioned that they were locking up the #1 damn seed, and this team hasn't even clinched a playoff spot, yet. Damn, the 2005 team was good.

Also, there wasn't the cloud over the team where it concerned major players like Jason Jones, Browner, and Sherman which could lead to a playoff downfall.

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I wasn't as confident in our 2005 team as I am with this current roster. That being said, 2005 still takes the cake as having me the most excited. I couldn't believe were games away from the #1 seed!

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Other. I want to see this year play the rest of the way out before i make that kinda pick. I have a feeling next year is gonna be the best team anyway. We lost some really close games this year and im hoping to see those turn to wins next year. 2013 is gonna be the year we run the table. You heard it here first. :0190l:


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I voted this year because I think we are the begining of something great, I just have this feeling that the 2010s decade is going to be for the Seahawks, what the 2000s were for the Patriots, what the 90s were for the Cowboys, what the 80s were for 49ers, what the 70s were for the Steelers, what the 60s were for the Packers. In 2005 I just felt we were in a 2-3 year window and remember Holmgren was in his 7th Season and everyone was at his peak at that time.


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2005 was bitter sweet in that we all knew that Hasselbeck wasn't an elite QB yet he was having an elite year. And if we couldn't win the Lombardi trophy that year, we weren't likely going to do it anytime soon. The stars were all aligned yet we still came up short in the end.

For the 2012 team, I have absolutely no reservations about their future. The sky is their limit. Unbounded... and that's such a sweet feeling to bask in.

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Other. I want to see this year play the rest of the way out before i make that kinda pick. I have a feeling next year is gonna be the best team anyway. We lost some really close games this year and im hoping to see those turn to wins next year. 2013 is gonna be the year we run the table. You heard it here first. :0190l:


I know it's a tad confusing, but this is meant as a gauge of how you are feeling right now about the current season and how you FELT in 2005 at this same point of the season. It's not mean to compare teams or seasons, just individual fan reaction and perception at this time of the season now vs. then. Any feelings we may have about the seasons each in their entirety has to wait until the off season, which is hopefully still many weeks away

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2012 team feels like a team that is on the verge of a dynasty
2005 team felt like it was at its peak

So excitement for two different reasons... loving both teams IS an option!

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I will take this 2012 team over the 2005 10 to 1. I dont look at where the 2005 team got.

There was alot that went right for them to get there.

The 2012 team is the most dominate team the Hawks have ever had in their 37 year history barr none.

Do not care what you nay sayers say.

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Can I change my answer to 2012?

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Can I change my answer to 2012?

yes u can just change it and revote

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