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therealjohncarlson
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 10:57 pm |
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You are the epitome of a bitter atheist. So congrats on that...
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:00 pm |
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therealjohncarlson wrote: You are the epitome of a bitter atheist. So congrats on that... If you are referring to me than I assure you I am no atheist.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:02 pm |
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You guys really can't just let it go and let a light hearted thread be light hearted?
(saying this to both sides)
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:02 pm |
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:12 pm |
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Yeesh
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:29 pm |
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dang... If only RW was drafted 4 spots later he could be 3:16... instead it's 3:12...
John 3:12 (from my simple google search lol):
"I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?"
I think that sums up RW pretty well.
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therealjohncarlson
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:57 pm |
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SonicHawk wrote: dang... If only RW was drafted 4 spots later he could be 3:16... instead it's 3:12...
John 3:12 (from my simple google search lol):
"I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?"
I think that sums up RW pretty well. Well said Schneider
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:06 am |
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beasthawk wrote: Largent80 wrote: Proof....  Mother of .....wow.... I wonder how long this took to make, I hate that russell is looking right at me.. Got Sins? 
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:08 am |
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Aros wrote: What would Clipboard Jesus do? Obviously he wasn't a true believer, at least not enough to tattoo it on his arms 
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scutterhawk
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:11 am |
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Largent80 wrote: But it is Russell that will deliver everlasting wins. that's right, and with Gods help he'll do just that, I must add.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:13 am |
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Serious question to the mods; how do Seahawks-vs-next-opponent threads get moved to the NFL forum if they're a week early, (i.e., discussing not the upcoming game but the one after and how the Seahawks match up to them) but this religious debate stays in the main forum?
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:18 am |
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Bakergirl wrote: Dayam they had some small peckers back when that picture was painted...  I could give a care less if your imaginary friend is on our side or not...We've Russell Wilson and that's all this team needs.  He's not just my "Imaginary Friend" lass, he's also yours. Isn't his fault you've not chosen well child. 
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:29 am |
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RolandDeschain wrote: Serious question to the mods; how do Seahawks-vs-next-opponent threads get moved to the NFL forum if they're a week early, (i.e., discussing not the upcoming game but the one after and how the Seahawks match up to them) but this religious debate stays in the main forum? Pretty simple dude, Many here have no proof of Gods existence, just a belief, because some (like those that have lost babies @ Sandy Hook) are counting on seeing them when they reach the other side, who has the right jerk that hope away from those faithful, and to dispell their beliefs. And you have no proof to the contrary either, just skepticism. Some also believe in alien beings, who says they are wrong?, most that feel that way have no proof, just a hunch, or BELIEF.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:40 am |
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[quote="Soppie"]Bottom line is that there is no god of any kind /quote] Your proof to the contrary of the believers? I have had extraordinary shit happen in my 65 + years, that defies ordinary explanation, so I've left the door open. Not all is make believe.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:45 am |
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therealjohncarlson wrote: Soppie wrote: RolandDeschain wrote: If that helps ya sleep at night, go for it. I haven't prayed in 15 years.
15 years huh..Is that when you finally got over the brainwashing that was laid upon you as a youth who could not yet make logical decisions for yourself? It has been about the same for me. Ok now this thread is going to move. But before it does let me just say you sound extremely ignorant. She's ignorant? Wow. Just wow.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:47 am |
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scutterhawk wrote: Bakergirl wrote: Dayam they had some small peckers back when that picture was painted...  I could give a care less if your imaginary friend is on our side or not...We've Russell Wilson and that's all this team needs.  He's not just my "Imaginary Friend" lass, he's also yours. Isn't his fault you've not chosen well child.  HAHAHAHA! You're funny. Until you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt there is a god (which you and everyone else on the planet can't) he's your imaginary friend.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:48 am |
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400WattHPSHawk wrote: Soppie wrote: I dont think your god would like name calling. Hey! That sounds just like something satan would say! That's a good one,,,Don't believe in GOD, but believes in SATAN? True story,,,,My ex wife took that stance, and argued her point in a debate while in college.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:49 am |
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The Existence of Seahawk's Playoff football can be proved in five ways.
Argument Analysis of the Five Ways
The First Way: Argument from Motion
Our senses prove that the Seahawks offense is in motion.
Things move when potential motion becomes actual motion. The coach scripts a play.
Only an actual motion can convert a read option offense into an actual touchdown.
Nothing can be at once in both actuality and potentiality in the same Touchdown drive
Therefore nothing can move itself.
Therefore each thing in motion is moved by something else.
The sequence of motion cannot extend ad infinitum. Overtime ends when a team scores touchdown first or unanswered feildgoal.
Therefore it is necessary to arrive at a first mover, put in motion by no other; and this everyone understands to be Russell Wilson.
The Second Way: Argument from Efficient Causes
We perceive a series of efficient causes of things in the world. Such as Marshawn and the rungame.
Nothing exists prior to itself.
Therefore nothing is the efficient cause of itself. The offensive line makes great blocks.
If a previous efficient cause does not exist, neither does the thing that results. 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
Therefore if the first thing in a series does not exist, nothing in the series exists.
The series of efficient causes cannot extend ad infinitum into the past, for then there would be no things existing now.
Therefore it is necessary to admit a first efficient cause, to which everyone gives the name of Jon Schneider and Tom Cable.
The Third Way: Argument from Possibility and Necessity
We find in football things that are possible to be and not to be, that come into being and go out of being i.e., the football team.
Assume that every being is a draftable commodity.
For each round pick, there is a time it does not exist.
Therefore it is impossible for these always to exist. Sometimes we must trade them.
Therefore there could have been a time when no decent players existed.
Therefore at that time there would have been nothing to bring the currently existing contingent of players into existence.
Therefore, no winning team would be in existence now.
We have reached an absurd result from assuming that every player is a decent player.
Therefore not every player is a Seahawks player.
Therefore some being exists of its own necessity, and does not receive its existence from another being, but rather causes them. This all men speak of as Coach Carroll.
The Fourth Way: Argument from Gradation of Being
There is a gradation to be found in things: some are better or worse than others.
Predications of degree require reference to the “uttermost” case
The maximum in any genus is the cause of all in that Division.
Therefore there must also be something which is to all beings the cause of their being, goodness, and every other perfection; and this we call Seahawks football and the read option.
The Fifth Way: Argument from Design
We see that natural bodies work toward some goal, and do not do so by chance.
Most natural things lack knowledge. So the coaches make a plan.
But as an arrow reaches its target because it is directed by an archer, what lacks intelligence achieves goals by being directed by something intelligent. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call the twelveth man.
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:58 am |
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Bakergirl wrote: scutterhawk wrote: Bakergirl wrote: Dayam they had some small peckers back when that picture was painted...  I could give a care less if your imaginary friend is on our side or not...We've Russell Wilson and that's all this team needs.  He's not just my "Imaginary Friend" lass, he's also yours. Isn't his fault you've not chosen well child.  HAHAHAHA! You're funny. Until you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt there is a god (which you and everyone else on the planet can't) he's your imaginary friend. That's just it, I don't have to prove that I believe, because I've had experiences in my life that you cannot disprove. If you're not a believer, and you aren't looking, you will never find....Your problem. Question is, why do you feel the compulsion to try and take away the hopes of the disheartend, and disenchanted, is it a misery loves company gig?
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Post subject: Re: God is on our side Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:59 am |
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scutterhawk wrote: RolandDeschain wrote: Serious question to the mods; how do Seahawks-vs-next-opponent threads get moved to the NFL forum if they're a week early, (i.e., discussing not the upcoming game but the one after and how the Seahawks match up to them) but this religious debate stays in the main forum? Pretty simple dude, Many here have no proof of Gods existence, just a belief, because some (like those that have lost babies @ Sandy Hook) are counting on seeing them when they reach the other side, who has the right jerk that hope away from those faithful, and to dispell their beliefs. And you have no proof to the contrary either, just skepticism. Some also believe in alien beings, who says they are wrong?, most that feel that way have no proof, just a hunch, or BELIEF. That has nothing to do with this...We have a religion forum, and normally stuff like this is kept there, that's all. 
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