Right, so like with the Patriot Act, you support taking the rights away from everyone over the small percentage of crazies in the world. Good on you. I'm so glad that you are the minority in this country, because I wouldn't want to live in a country where my rights were so freely given up as you seem to desire.

I don't think I've ever stated that I was in favor of the Patriot Act.

Yes, I believe complete freedom is completely ridiculous. I'm not trying to live in the ... umm... well there was never a time where we were ever completely free. There have always been consequences for actions.

I thought I was giving a bone with the removal of firearms from police. Why should we have our gun rights taken away while all police keep them?

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RIP ROAD WOES 12/2/2012

So... kidhawk, what weapons do you think we shouldn't have access to?

The second amendment says nothing about nuclear weapons. Can we possess those as citizens? '50 caliber machine guns? Napalms? Automatic pistols? Grenade launchers?

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RIP ROAD WOES 12/2/2012

You have argued for the Patriot Act in previous threads, saying that people who talk about it costing us rights couldn't give you any evidence and that we were much safer now because of things like the TSA which were created along with the Patriot Act.

As for "giving a bone"....you are so far out in left field on this. Taking them away from the police doesn't make it any better for taking them away from the citizens. We have the right to a well armed militia. You can't have this without guns. You want to take this away. The only way to do that is by repealing the 2nd amendment.

Why the fuck do we need a well armed militia?

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RIP ROAD WOES 12/2/2012

I think the weapons all currently allowed under the laws of this country are all perfectly acceptable weapons for citizens to own.

I have no desire to further infringe upon the rights of the citizens of this nation by taking away the last bastion of protection we have, just because there are a small percentage of whackos out there.

To topple Obama's tyranny when he knocks on your door to collect your guns.

I'm confused how you vehemently defend the 2nd amendment yet you're ok with the current laws that restrict the second amendment?

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RIP ROAD WOES 12/2/2012

See: The Revolutionary War. You know, that peasant army that rose up and drove the Brits out of our country, paving the way for our independence? You see, our forefathers had this crazy idea that if you want people to stop fucking you over, you might need to shoot at them a few times first. Are you so naive as to think that this would never again become necessary?

Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and a veritable slough of South American and African dictators have long been fans of tight restrictions on the right to bear arms.

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What you are calling for is not a restriction of the amendment, but you are calling for the absolute repeal of the 2nd amendment. 12evanf tries to make a sarcastic little joke about Obama taking the guns, but this is EXACTLY what you are calling for in these threads. You are calling for both police and citizens to have their guns taken from them. This is absolutely the wrong path, and luckily, I know that there are too many people in this country who are much much much more intelligent than you because there is NO WAY that it will happen.

Don't you see? That is what he wants. He wants our government to have tight controls and control every aspect. He thinks that the TSA is a good idea, he believes citizens and even police should be without guns. He doesn't mind having the government run everything, because apparently the rest of the country is mentally unstable and can't handle their guns.

Are you naive enough to think the American citizenry could topple the American military? The 2nd Amendment is moot, our government has completely surpassed any competition of a threat from its citizenship years ago.

No, I don't think they will ever become necessary again. I'd rather have a safer society to live in than keep guns around so a few of you feel better that you'll be able to 'defend our freedom' vs. the next Stalin.

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RIP ROAD WOES 12/2/2012

It will happen. Maybe not today, maybe not soon, but it will happen. Because guns are unfuckingnecessary.

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RIP ROAD WOES 12/2/2012

In an indirect way you may have unintentionally given the idea that you do support the patriot act.

If you believe the government is perfectly capable to ensure that the only people who have access to guns are the federal government without nothing going wrong. Why is it such a far fetched idea to think that you feel the federal govt can continue to enforce and change the patriot act w/o further infringing on our rights as much as the act already has?

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ROFL. Your naivete is staggering. I doubt you're even a year out of high school.

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He is hold back the legion of boom - skater18000

Your "safer society" doesn't exist and won't ever exist so long as people remain conditioned to covet property and need to fight to feed their families. Pull your head out of your idealistic fantasy world.

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Feel free to contact me if you need legal assistance. I have a great lawyer that helped me with an ex who violated my privacy and kept harassing me on MySpace and Facebook. He's very good. And there is legal precedent. - linuxpro

He is hold back the legion of boom - skater18000

Oh no, that big bad government that is democratically elected to run our country.

I've said countless fucking times that the majority (not 99% but majority) of gun owners are sane enough to own a gun and use it responsibly. I feel the same way if they all owned nuclear weapons. It doesn't make it a smart decision to have it be so freely and readily available.

The TSA is certainly a better idea than not having the TSA. I fly quite frequently and have to deal with the TSA and I don't mind it. Makes me feel more comfortable flying.

All I have to do is look at the UK and see what their gun control has done and think "why don't we fucking do that" -- Taking a single policy from the UK doesn't mean that I think we should be the UK, but am I not allowed to see something work and want to implement that?

I get it, there's a document written 220 years ago that you feel is the work of God. Just because it's old, doesn't make it right.

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RIP ROAD WOES 12/2/2012

He claims to be against it, but he supports it in a very direct way. He has said he feels safer and that we are better off having the TSA. The TSA is a major portion of the Patriot Act. Without the Patriot Act there would be no TSA and since he claims to support the TSA I don't understand how he can be against the act which created it.

I've seen God mentioned twice in gun control discussions today and BOTH times it was you. Shut the fuck up about God. Nobody here is saying God wrote the constitution, but we are saying that we aren't going to just roll over and give up the rights we have had for generations. Rights which A lot of Americans have fought and died to defend. You can WANT to abolish guns and the 2nd amendment all you wish, but it won't happen. The only way you'll live in a society with that kind of gun control is to move to another country.