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I think this is going to be the most annoying thing to the more than casual Seahawks fan for the entire length of Wilson's career. Media dolts are going to be pointing out his height like he overcame some major handicap every time he does well, and the ignorant few will continue to point it out as a reason for failure until he wins it all.

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He's always going to be short. Get over it. The media will always mention it, they just won't ding him for it at all once he hoists the next Lombardi to be handed out.

Also, it'll be used as a compliment after that point. "He did all of <huge list of accolades> despite being 5'10"! Amazing."

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He's always going to be short. Get over it. The media will always mention it, they just won't ding him for it at all once he hoists the next Lombardi to be handed out.

Also, it'll be used as a compliment after that point. "He did all of <huge list of accolades> despite being 5'10"! Amazing."


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did they ever get over flutie's height?


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did they ever get over flutie's height?


No, because he was never any good. How often do you hear about Drew Brees' height? Not very much.


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I think this is going to be the most annoying thing to the more than casual Seahawks fan for the entire length of Wilson's career. Media dolts are going to be pointing out his height like he overcame some major handicap every time he does well, and the ignorant few will continue to point it out as a reason for failure until he wins it all.

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I'm afraid that his height will always be an issue while people keep talking and discussing it.
The only way it goes away, if it is ignored and it then becomes a non-issue.

I have never discussed it as an issue and this wll be my only time and then this will be my last time.


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No, because he was never any good. How often do you hear about Drew Brees' height? Not very much.


Brees also has 1.5 inches on Wilson.

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Let me get this straight: The OP started a thread about RW's height, so folks can bitch about folks talking about RW's height?

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Let me get this straight: The OP started a thread about RW's height, so folks can bitch about folks talking about RW's height?


Welcome to this thread.

Amount of sense made: 0

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yeah it's never going to end. I'm getting used to just ignoring it, though every single time Wilson has a pass batted down its going to be "HERE COMES THE SHORT TALK" hah


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did they ever get over flutie's height?


No, because he was never any good. How often do you hear about Drew Brees' height? Not very much.


Actually Flutie did pretty well considering, he sure kicked our ass regularly when he played in Buffalo, he was the player that truly fought the height stigma, Wilson we hear about it, Flutie was constantly battleing it with coaches on his own team. Ditka for one was really down on him for no other reason then that.

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LymonHawk wrote:
Let me get this straight: The OP started a thread about RW's height, so folks can bitch about folks talking about RW's height?

Yes, yes he did. You should write congress a strongly worded letter. this shit has got to end.

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In the end his career will be measured not in inches but in wins.



That depends on who's measureing, male or female.


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Scottemojo wrote:
I think this is going to be the most annoying thing to the more than casual Seahawks fan for the entire length of Wilson's career. Media dolts are going to be pointing out his height like he overcame some major handicap every time he does well, and the ignorant few will continue to point it out as a reason for failure until he wins it all.

What say you?

I say....you just brought it up. Why?

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Scottemojo wrote:
I think this is going to be the most annoying thing to the more than casual Seahawks fan for the entire length of Wilson's career. Media dolts are going to be pointing out his height like he overcame some major handicap every time he does well, and the ignorant few will continue to point it out as a reason for failure until he wins it all.

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I say....you just brought it up. Why?

I was over at NFL.com and they had that hobbit/Wilson video on the front page. It was annoying. As is the constant mention during broadcasts. I am guessing it will be a topic of discussion during tomorrow's broadcast.

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In the end his career will be measured not in inches but in wins.



That depends on who's measureing, male or female.


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I pay very little attention to it, I figure it's no big deal. People will always sell him short, but in the end, it's just a small annoyance. People overlooking him due to his height is such a small issue - it's dwarfed by the issues of ongoing east coast bias, refs cheating us out of games or schedules that are unfair to us.

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The biggest problem is that most these folks are taking the wrong measurements.
They're still trying to fit Wilson into the conceptual mold that they created in their limited minds.
Pete Carroll and John Schneider aren't wasting time trying to fit the square pegs into the round holes, they're too buisy high fiveing with each other over their good fortune :lol:


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they're too buisy high fiveing with each other over their good fortune :lol:


I take issue with your use of the word "fortune"; I think "fortune" implies a certain amount of luck. Carroll had to talk Schneider down from grabbing Wilson in the 2nd round. Schneider knew what Wilson could do.

They are doing high-fives over how mother-freakin' SKILLED they are! :D :lol:

Man, I love Papa Pete & Uncle John.

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Just don't mess those up Peyton has a whole network of Papa John restaurants.

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Just don't mess those up Peyton has a whole network of Papa John restaurants.


No worries. In my mind, Pete is P2, or Double-P, like a rapper.

Let's face it, if Pete Carroll actually made a rap video, it'd probably be absolutely hysterical.

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Doesn't bother me one bit. It will always be something where someone doesn't believe in him... Much like tom Brady

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Let them talk, they look like unimformed morons when they do (hey Hugh!). What are they going to say when he brings home a Lombardi or 2????

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did they ever get over flutie's height?


No, because he was never any good. How often do you hear about Drew Brees' height? Not very much.


Actually Flutie did pretty well considering, he sure kicked our ass regularly when he played in Buffalo, he was the player that truly fought the height stigma, Wilson we hear about it, Flutie was constantly battleing it with coaches on his own team. Ditka for one was really down on him for no other reason then that.


Yeah, I'll go with that. I'd agree Flutie is the player who most helped break the NFL QB "height barrier" in the modern era.
Flutie won plenty of games with his legs. His best 40 time was 4.69. I think Wilson's 40 is 4.55, so Wilson has a speed edge on Flutie.

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"The Bills' success continued with Flutie at the helm; his record as a starter that season was 8 wins and 3 losses. Flutie was selected to play in the 1998 Pro Bowl.
Flutie led the Bills to a 10–5 record in 1999 but, in a controversial decision, was replaced by Johnson for the playoffs by coach Wade Phillips, who later said he had been ordered by Bills owner Ralph Wilson to do so. The Bills lost 22–16 to the eventual AFC Champion Tennessee Titans in a game that has become known for the Music City Miracle, where the Titans scored on the penultimate play of the game — a kickoff return following the Bills' apparent game-clinching field goal.
The following season, Flutie was named the Bills' backup and only played late in games or when Johnson was injured, which was often. In fact, during the season, Flutie had a 4–1 record as a starter, in comparison to Johnson's 4–7. In a December 24, 2000 game against the Seattle Seahawks, Flutie achieved a perfect passer rating, completing 20 of 25 passes for 366 yards and three touchdowns. Following the 2000 season, Bills President Tom Donahoe and head coach Gregg Williams decided to keep Johnson as the starter and cut Flutie."

Never understood why the Bills didn't just make Flutie their guy those years. Seemed like he was the only QB who won any games for them. The "short QB" bias is as good an explanation as any.


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Russell Wilson chose to be short.
Just to even the playing field.


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Starting a topic discussing people who talk about Wilson's height /= starting a topic talking about Wilson's height. I'm not sure how some of you missed that. I thought it was pretty obvious.

To answer the question, no it doesn't bother me. When Wilson retires 15 years from now with top 10 career numbers and multiple championships, I look forward to hearing the storylines about how a guy that basically made history by even playing in the NFL ended up being one of it's best ever QBs. The amazing thing is, I actually believe that will happen.


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Scottemojo wrote:
I think this is going to be the most annoying thing to the more than casual Seahawks fan for the entire length of Wilson's career. Media dolts are going to be pointing out his height like he overcame some major handicap every time he does well, and the ignorant few will continue to point it out as a reason for failure until he wins it all.

What say you?


He's not prototypical NFL QB height, so what. Hes average height of most men in the US. He is not a dwarf or a hobbit or a small person. He's our QB and the future of this franchise.

I don't remember Hass catching so much flack for being bald.


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I think this is going to be the most annoying thing to the more than casual Seahawks fan for the entire length of Wilson's career. Media dolts are going to be pointing out his height like he overcame some major handicap every time he does well, and the ignorant few will continue to point it out as a reason for failure until he wins it all.

What say you?


He's not prototypical NFL QB height, so what. Hes average height of most men in the US. He is not a dwarf or a hobbit or a small person. He's our QB and the future of this franchise.

I don't remember Hass catching so much flack for being bald.

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