I'm offering rebuttal to an extreme proposal. You said that the presence of weapons in schools would teach children respect, no?

I said MAYBE, you idiot. As in, possibly. Perhaps. Not definitely. Go read a dictionary. You also then went on to assume that I meant teachers should threaten to shoot & kill the students that get out of line. How retarded are you? I said nothing of the sort, nor did I imply it. I didn't even say the teachers should do or say anything about wearing a gun. If the students know they're packing, I think MAYBE there would be a little bit less unruliness. Again, maybe being the operative word here.

Reading comprehension sure isn't everyone's strong suit.

Teachers with sidearms to help prevent "unruliness"? So kids would be less "unruly" because a teacher has 12+1 .40s&w rounds on his hip? Yeah, good idea.

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I'm not saying do it for that reason, and I only even said MAYBE it'll have some sort of small effect on SOME kids. Also, no matter what you say, you're susceptible to this phenomenon to some extent, as well. Let's say a moron in a car in front of you slams on the breaks because they weren't paying attention and almost ran a red light, and you lay on the horn because you're rightfully pissed off since you nearly hit them, and they get out of the car and you see a .45 on their hip; you going to be just as aggressive in your anger as if there is no gun there? No, you're not. Even if you decide to lie and say you would be.

This thread is rapidly becoming proof that people simply read what they want to read. It doesn't matter what words show up on the forum, you interpret them how you want to interpret them, regardless of what's actually written there.

Sad.

Oh I'm not arguing that a kid would be intimidated by a teacher carrying a hand gun, just that the idea of this is completely asinine.

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I'm conservative on a lot of issues, but the ideas of allowing teachers to have guns around children is pretty insane. If nothing else for the reason that what makes you think teachers are this righteous group of people that never do anything wrong? What happens if there's a crazy teacher that has a bad day and a student pisses him off. In short, guns and teachers dont mix well imo...

OK. I guess that my message is that if you want to discourage gun related tragedies, keep kids away from guns, psychologically and physically.

Because that worked so well in Connecticut, yesterday; or anywhere, ever, for that matter. What in the WORLD makes you think keeping guns away from kids, physically and psychologically, will help at ALL?

Look how well that works in deeply religious families in regards to sex. Half their daughters turn into whores because it's a "never-discussed issue".

Roland, I respect your football posts, but I give up. If you don'tt recognise the correlation between young men shooting people and the lax gun laws, I think we're banging our respective heads on brick walls.

If only normal people did these things, Hawkspur, I'd agree with you. Since a HUGE percentage of them are done by people that have major psychological problems, I think you're kind of beating on the wrong drum a bit. Do you think he wouldn't have done this with some knives, or perhaps knives & a bow and arrows, if he hadn't been able to get some firearms?

Not to mention, again, it looks like these guns were illegally obtained; so unless you really mean "gun elimination" when you say "gun control", nothing's going to keep psychopaths from getting guns somewhere.

So gun = respect? If the students known the teachers aren't going to shoot them, then the gun makes no difference. Are you thinking the teacher is going to pistol whip them?

This thread is rapidly devolving into you trying to defend a ridiculous proposal while calling everyone wusses, idiots, retards, etc.

Difference is, you don't know what the person in the car is thinking with the .45 on his hip. The teachers are going to have serious limitations on their use of force since the weapons are designed to project force away from the students. If you want to study up on this subject, read up on nuclear arms deterrence. You can have nukes as a country, but if everyone knows you won't use them, then it doesn't matter. They just become an expensive, shiny, object. Just like mutually assured destruction, the kids will know the teacher won't take the step to cap the kid and thus the gun will lose its effect in a few days.

Falcon, do you know what the word "maybe" means? You see, I used it in regards to that point.

Since you are the master of the dictionary, please help understand where the word maybe is. Reading your words I can understand why people misinterpreted your use of SHOULD as maybe. Hmmmm....

"Maybe" came later in the conversation, not in that specific reply.

Only full on rednecks would want guns in schools. All there is to it. I mean they got those stickers on every school windows with an X going through a gun, syringe and cigarette. And that is never going to change. I wish this forum did not have a PWR area, ruins my views on otherwise sound people.

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I drive a dark blue Hyundai Sonata with no stickers of any kind on it, a Seahawks license plate holder, and I don't own any firearms. I also am not from, nor did I grow up in, the deep south. You may be on to something about getting rid of the PWR, though. It always has been, and will continue to be, a cesspool.

Lol, wow; a friend just sent this to me.

But a whole lot fucking less.

It's easy to get guns now because there are so many of them and they are readily available. You make them illegal, it becomes a whole hell of a lot harder.

Let's make them illegal and instead of sending someone to jail just for possession we'll make them do community service. Voluntarily turn them in for $$.

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