Andrew Luck might go down as the greatest rookie quarterback in NFL history. (Clayton)
And adding insult to injury, they've got the crap Colts ranked ahead of the Hawks.
Andrew Luck might go down as the greatest rookie quarterback in NFL history. (Clayton)
jkitsune wrote:Colts are 8-4. Can't say that's not a good reason to rank them ahead of the Hawks.
Tru2RedNGold25 wrote:Us as Niners fan have every right to rep Niners all day everyday when we have the hardware to back it up do can u guys say that???
therealjohncarlson wrote:Colts were the worst team in football last year and Luck has positioned them to get a playoff spot... Its not really unheard of to say that. The man has done a unbelievable job with the limited supplies he has.
KitsapHawk wrote:therealjohncarlson wrote:Colts were the worst team in football last year and Luck has positioned them to get a playoff spot... Its not really unheard of to say that. The man has done a unbelievable job with the limited supplies he has.
This is false. This team was not the worst in football last year. This was a team that intentionally lost games. Sticking painter throughout the year was an obvious sign that they had no intention of going anywhere that year.
KitsapHawk wrote:therealjohncarlson wrote:Colts were the worst team in football last year and Luck has positioned them to get a playoff spot... Its not really unheard of to say that. The man has done a unbelievable job with the limited supplies he has.
This is false. This team was not the worst in football last year. This was a team that intentionally lost games. Sticking painter throughout the year was an obvious sign that they had no intention of going anywhere that year.
razgriz737 wrote:jkitsune wrote:Colts are 8-4. Can't say that's not a good reason to rank them ahead of the Hawks.
I haven't looked at their schedule, but someone said they've mostly beaten crappy teams.
But, then again, we've mostly lost to crappy teams, haha.
CurryStopstheRuns wrote:KitsapHawk wrote:therealjohncarlson wrote:Colts were the worst team in football last year and Luck has positioned them to get a playoff spot... Its not really unheard of to say that. The man has done a unbelievable job with the limited supplies he has.
This is false. This team was not the worst in football last year. This was a team that intentionally lost games. Sticking painter throughout the year was an obvious sign that they had no intention of going anywhere that year.
Thank you! I get so sick of hearing about how great Luck is because of them being 8-4 this season and so horrible last season while those same people blatantly overlook the fact that the Colts threw their season away so they could draft Luck. They were not even the worst team last season.
FlyingGreg wrote:For the life of me, I can't understand how people get excited about rankings.
Truly....who cares??
The only "ranking" that matters is who grabs the Lombardi and finishes #1. The rest is .... well ...
SilNWest wrote:The greatest rookie quarterback of all time? He's not even the greatest of this season!
He hasn't distanced himself from Russell Wilson or RG3 at all, and if I had to crown someone as the greatest rookie ever it would probably be RG3. Followed by Wilson, then Manning. Luck would definitely be on there... but not at the top.
Tru2RedNGold25 wrote:Us as Niners fan have every right to rep Niners all day everyday when we have the hardware to back it up do can u guys say that???
volsunghawk wrote:Yup, the Colts coaches instructed their players to throw the season so they could get Luck. Those coaches are probably really enjoying coaching him.
What? They were all fired?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' front office that came up with the plan and forced the coaches and players to go along with it. Good job, front office.
What? They were all fired, too?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' ownership that convinced the front office, the coaching staff, and the players to all go against everything they work for each season and throw games so they could get Luck for the team and kiss their jobs goodbye as a result.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
jkitsune wrote:Colts are 8-4. Can't say that's not a good reason to rank them ahead of the Hawks.
taz291819 wrote:volsunghawk wrote:Yup, the Colts coaches instructed their players to throw the season so they could get Luck. Those coaches are probably really enjoying coaching him.
What? They were all fired?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' front office that came up with the plan and forced the coaches and players to go along with it. Good job, front office.
What? They were all fired, too?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' ownership that convinced the front office, the coaching staff, and the players to all go against everything they work for each season and throw games so they could get Luck for the team and kiss their jobs goodbye as a result.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
Hey, quit bringing facts into this, it's uncalled for.
CANHawk wrote:taz291819 wrote:volsunghawk wrote:Yup, the Colts coaches instructed their players to throw the season so they could get Luck. Those coaches are probably really enjoying coaching him.
What? They were all fired?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' front office that came up with the plan and forced the coaches and players to go along with it. Good job, front office.
What? They were all fired, too?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' ownership that convinced the front office, the coaching staff, and the players to all go against everything they work for each season and throw games so they could get Luck for the team and kiss their jobs goodbye as a result.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
Hey, quit bringing facts into this, it's uncalled for.
I don't necessarily think it is was intentional (because you've right, it cost Polian and Coach Wassisname their jobs) but as Mike Salk pointed out, there was CLEARLY no plan B to Payton manning. Seriously, Charlie Whitehurst or Seneca Wallace would have been a MASSIVE upgrade over the people they rolled out as starting qb's last year and that is very sad. There was no way in he'll they were winning anything last year regardless of the supporting cast (which wasn't that awful). They'd have done better with a pylon playing quarterback.
volsunghawk wrote:CurryStopstheRuns wrote:KitsapHawk wrote:This is false. This team was not the worst in football last year. This was a team that intentionally lost games. Sticking painter throughout the year was an obvious sign that they had no intention of going anywhere that year.
Thank you! I get so sick of hearing about how great Luck is because of them being 8-4 this season and so horrible last season while those same people blatantly overlook the fact that the Colts threw their season away so they could draft Luck. They were not even the worst team last season.
Yup, the Colts coaches instructed their players to throw the season so they could get Luck. Those coaches are probably really enjoying coaching him.
What? They were all fired?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' front office that came up with the plan and forced the coaches and players to go along with it. Good job, front office.
What? They were all fired, too?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' ownership that convinced the front office, the coaching staff, and the players to all go against everything they work for each season and throw games so they could get Luck for the team and kiss their jobs goodbye as a result.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
-The Glove- wrote:CANHawk wrote:
I don't necessarily think it is was intentional (because you've right, it cost Polian and Coach Wassisname their jobs) but as Mike Salk pointed out, there was CLEARLY no plan B to Payton manning. Seriously, Charlie Whitehurst or Seneca Wallace would have been a MASSIVE upgrade over the people they rolled out as starting qb's last year and that is very sad. There was no way in he'll they were winning anything last year regardless of the supporting cast (which wasn't that awful). They'd have done better with a pylon playing quarterback.
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SalishHawkFan wrote:Week 13 power rankings are out and Clayton has this to say:Andrew Luck might go down as the greatest rookie quarterback in NFL history. (Clayton)
And adding insult to injury, they've got the crap Colts ranked ahead of the Hawks.
drrew wrote:I'm as big a Russell Wilson fan as anyone, and I really enjoy watching RGIII, but to denigrate what Andrew Luck is doing is ridiculous. Do you realize he's on track for one of the top 10 passing yard seasons in NFL history...with an outside shot at sneaking in the top 5?
He's not perfect, but he (along with RW and RGIII) is amazing, and when a rookie throws for 4500+ in a season, the hyperbole is to be expected.
Tech Worlds wrote:The Colts arnt that good. Wait till next year when the schedule is not so generous to them.
volsunghawk wrote:CurryStopstheRuns wrote:
Thank you! I get so sick of hearing about how great Luck is because of them being 8-4 this season and so horrible last season while those same people blatantly overlook the fact that the Colts threw their season away so they could draft Luck. They were not even the worst team last season.
Yup, the Colts coaches instructed their players to throw the season so they could get Luck. Those coaches are probably really enjoying coaching him.
What? They were all fired?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' front office that came up with the plan and forced the coaches and players to go along with it. Good job, front office.
What? They were all fired, too?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' ownership that convinced the front office, the coaching staff, and the players to all go against everything they work for each season and throw games so they could get Luck for the team and kiss their jobs goodbye as a result.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
volsunghawk wrote:Yup, the Colts coaches instructed their players to throw the season so they could get Luck. Those coaches are probably really enjoying coaching him.
What? They were all fired?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' front office that came up with the plan and forced the coaches and players to go along with it. Good job, front office.
What? They were all fired, too?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' ownership that convinced the front office, the coaching staff, and the players to all go against everything they work for each season and throw games so they could get Luck for the team and kiss their jobs goodbye as a result.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
themunn wrote:volsunghawk wrote:CurryStopstheRuns wrote:
Thank you! I get so sick of hearing about how great Luck is because of them being 8-4 this season and so horrible last season while those same people blatantly overlook the fact that the Colts threw their season away so they could draft Luck. They were not even the worst team last season.
Yup, the Colts coaches instructed their players to throw the season so they could get Luck. Those coaches are probably really enjoying coaching him.
What? They were all fired?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' front office that came up with the plan and forced the coaches and players to go along with it. Good job, front office.
What? They were all fired, too?
Oh, then it must have been the Colts' ownership that convinced the front office, the coaching staff, and the players to all go against everything they work for each season and throw games so they could get Luck for the team and kiss their jobs goodbye as a result.
Yeah, that makes total sense.
I think they were nudged in that direction by the owner. And I think the players had it in the back of their minds too.
Take the game against Detroit on Sunday. If the Lions took the field with 2.30 left last year and the Colts only had 2 time outs, do you think the defense would have stepped up and made the stop with enough time to give Painter a chance (albeit one he was unlikely to convert) to win?
No way.
I don't care how good your QB is, you don't go from a 10-6 team to a team that flat out isn't competitive in one off-season when he gets injured. If the talent around Manning was that bad and he made them competitive, then going to a team with the talent the Broncos have should result in a 19-0 season - I mean, Luck is 2 games away from matching the 10-6 result that Manning had in 2010, and only one game behind him in the AFC right now. Basically we're saying the talent of the Colts was SO bad and still IS SO bad that Luck must be a better QB than Peyton Manning.
hawksfan515 wrote:Maybe it was kinda like what Whiz is doing with Lindley right now? Cause Lindley sucks, and Painter sucked. connection????
HansGruber wrote:Dan Marino was the best rookie qb of all time.
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