The one game the Seahawks did win with Carey's crew officiating was PC's first game as HC. It was at home against SF and we worked them pretty hard that day. Something like 31-14.

Carey being discussed here.

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Still missing you everyday pal.

I'm sorry that the term obvious bothers you but it's obvious. Don't give me this he's just a bad ref. basically you are saying he is a bad ref and all his calls just happen to go against the hawks the last 5 years. Bs

If it was obvious, I think someone other than us would have noticed it and he wouldn't be officiating the games for us and probably anyone else. I am not saying it isn't possible he would risk losing a cushy position by calling the game one sided against us, as stupid as a career decision as it may be, I am just saying I don't buy it. Stats can be misleading. Those one sided results show our "obvious" decision to play dirty against the other team.

There is a chance that we did commit some stupid mistakes (we were one of the highest penalized team over the last few years) and got caught and there is just as good a chance that the unfortunate bad calls (which happen to every team) came at horribly unfortunate moments such as Leon's return. So yeah, I am calling him a bad ref. An unbiased and terrible example of the NFLs need to go full time with the suckers and take as much influence out of their hands as possible.

Prove it.........

EDIT: And by prove it, I mean provide at least 3 instances you can find "bias" in Carey's officiating.

I get that he sucks. I agree with that. Didn't like the punt call. I don't think he's biased against the Hawks though.....

Prove oxygen exists. Prove the moon isn't made out of cheese. Prove you love your mom.

There's plenty of evidence presented in this thread. Doubt anybody could "prove it" whether it's true or not. You don't have to believe it if you don't want to.

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You can prove Oxygen exists, the moon isn't made of cheese, and that you "love" your mom.

lol.

I just don't see enough evidence though. People claiming bias are over the top..... And people telling me to leave the thread, all I'm doing is voicing my opinion, as are the people going "That's not bad officiating, that's BIAS".

Somebody can. You can't. Neither can 515. And sometimes you can't prove if somebody is judging something with a bias even if they are.

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I can, but I get your point. I still can say that it is more likely that there is oxygen then magic flys that makes us breathe good. I think it is more likely he is unbiased and less likely he would risk everything to ruin our games.

* edited to make more relevant.

Great info man. That's quite the pattern over the past 7 games with all of the personal fouls called against us and almost zero called against opposition...

All speculative bias aside, if the man sucks officiating 7-8 out of 10 games he should not longer be one of the two senior refs of the league.

Yeah kick him out or something. Or maybe it's his crew that sucks, somethings wrong there.

Oddly enough voted in 2008 as one of the best officials, tied with Ed Hochuli for first. I think that's back when he was a back judge though.

Or before he started getting paid to be biased.

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Telling someone that presents some info to "quit whining" isn't exactly simply voicing your opinion. The OP actually brought something to the table, and you have yet to provide anything more than shoving your opinion down others throat and then getting butthurt when they call you on it.

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Dude how many people need to say that they are not whining before it is known?

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Maybe he is biased, and maybe he isn't -- but his officiating yesterday certainly was.

Your point about all refs making bad calls misses the point. We know refs make bad calls. Even in the Super Bowl, I doubt people would have had a problem with bad calls if they hadn't uniformly been against one team in particular. THAT was the problem yesterday. The Bears got the benefit of all close or questionable calls.

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Overturning the Braylon TD was the main thing that stood out to me. There was ZERO clear evidence to overturn that call. Absolutely ZERO!

Exactly. It was his opinion that the ball hit the ground first and that's exactly how that process is not supposed to work.

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well the only point I was trying to make was that I didn't think there was enough evidence, my bad if I acted totally butthurt and whiny I guess

There was just a bit of stuff he missed. Personal fouls aren't the do all end all, we got those called on us for a good reason. We were a pretty stupid team earlier, extremely aggressive.

I guess there is a chance Carey could be biased. My opinion though, is that he's just a subpar ref who needs to be replaced, as he seems to badly referee other games that are not seahawk games.

And Kitsap, I guess I did say people where whining a bit too much, my bad there too. Only meant to say it once. People seem to have stopped mainly......

Dude, stop baiting people. Just because you are in a bad mood it doesn't mean you need to come on here and purposefully piss people off by calling them whiners. It's obvious he was doing no such thing but you couldn't wait to throw that out there and start pissing people off.

Absolutely unneccessary and creates a negative atmosphere on here. Are you counting how many responses you've elicited?

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