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 Post subject: I've seen Zorn, Krieg, Moon, Hasselbeck...
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...and all the "etc's" we've had, and I admit it...This kid is the real deal! I'm in the bandwagon!!

Could he be our best QB so far? What do you think?


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Hell yeah... and I've seen 'em all as well. :th2thumbs: :th2thumbs:

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He has the potential to be for sure. I love this kid, he's special.


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He is already better then Hasselbeck.

We never see those 3 - 5 plays a game from Wilson that Hass always had where you just couldn't figure out what he was thinking.

We got our guy.

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I'm as excited as anyone about his progress and the game yesterday was as fun to watch as any I can remember. I think his potential exceeds that of any other QB that has previously been considered a franchise QB (and I'm not trying to discount the contributions of some very special QBs we've had in the past). Still...it's WAY too early to call him the best ever. Let's talk again in a few years - and I'll be hoping it's a slam dunk by then.


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Best QB of all time by far.


I notice you didn't add the 'Seahawks' qualifier in there before you said 'QB'. Well played, sir....well played.

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Best QB of all time by far.

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Tech Worlds wrote:
He is already better then Hasselbeck.

We never see those 3 - 5 plays a game from Wilson that Hass always had where you just couldn't figure out what he was thinking.

We got our guy.

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remember this joke?


What was the most common thing said on sundays in the 80's?

'Effing Krieg?"


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Tech Worlds wrote:
He is already better then Hasselbeck.

We never see those 3 - 5 plays a game from Wilson that Hass always had where you just couldn't figure out what he was thinking.

We got our guy.



Correct. Hass earned the nickname "Spazzlebeck" honestly. Wilson is far more controlled in his decision making. Not perfect but certainly more cerebral. As he get better at reading defenses, checking down and modulating his snap counts it will only get better.


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I've seen Gelbaugh, McGwire, Mirer, Freisz, Moon, Dilfer, Hamdan, and Teel.


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I've seen Gelbaugh, McGwire, Mirer, Freisz, Moon, Dilfer, Hamdan, and Teel.


Don't forget Glenn Foley!

I think Russ has the potential to be the best. If he can stay healthy for the duration of his career, I think he'll go down as the Seahawks Greatest PLAYER of all-time, not just QB.

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Tech Worlds wrote:
He is already better then Hasselbeck.

We never see those 3 - 5 plays a game from Wilson that Hass always had where you just couldn't figure out what he was thinking.

We got our guy.


While I'm not down on the guy, there was one thing Matt did which always infuriated me. Remember how he would read a defense, audible to the run if he didn't like it, then burn a timeout when the defense shifted? You could always tell by his facial expression prior to the snap, whether or not he would call a timeout. It seemed like this sort of thing played into the game plans of the defenses we faced as they had seen it happen on film dozens of times before.

We definitely have our guy. Russell calls the play then executes it masterfully, improvising when he needs to. Awesome.

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I just spent the weekend hosting one of our ex QB's and while watching the game he agreed that Russ is something to behold. BTW, no crap about my jersey!! Dave gave me plenty for it!!! LOL

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I too have seen them all play from Day 1 and while Zorn, Krieg, Moon and Hasselbeck will always have a special place in my Seahawk heart, I am already convinced Wilson will outshine them all the way to Canton. Watch and see.

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Zebulon Dak wrote:
Best QB of all time by far.


I see what you did there


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I've also seen all the Hawks QBs 'sinceday1' and this kid definitely has a GREAT chance to be the best ever for this franchise. It's too early, but considering he just played his 12th game as a pro and we've seen some amazing play from him already, it's not hard to envision where he's headed. I do believe he will easily surpass all the other Hawks' QBs of the past and has the potential to be something even more special than that.

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Wilson has outperformed any expectations. Nothing fazes this guy. That's what impresses me the most about him. He's extremely poised. After the debacle at QB the past couple of years, it's good to see someone who is calm, collected, and makes plays. Bears win was awesome. He definitely should be in the mix for ROY. I think it's between him and Luck. He doesn't have the numbers but he's doing what he needs to for his team to win. He's not costing his team by turning over the ball. Luck throws a lot of INTs. He had 3 yesterday. Also he's a third rounder and not #1 or #2 pick but he's playing like the #1 pick right now.


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cboom wrote:Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.

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I don't think Wilson has been anywhere close to the worst Seahawks qb ever, even on his worst day.


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The guy is 12 weeks into his professional career. Listen to us, we're ready to "crown his ass".

Count me in. The guy makes it way too easy to forget he's a rookie. Watching him mature and improve week to week is mesmerizing. He creates an atmosphere of optimism that I can't ever remember feeling and I've been a fan for a very, very, long time.

Not to pick on Hasselbeck but his release always looked weird to me. The trajectory of the ball never seemed to correlate well with this arm motion. Russel Wilson's throwing motion, the ball trajectory and his accuracy are a thing of beauty.

This kid is good.


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By the way, where's this guy's post on this thread?
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cboom wrote:Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.


A couple of guys seem to be distinctly missing from the discussion.

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One thing I noticed,well in my opinion,is that Wilson isnt a good passer.


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I've seen Gelbaugh, McGwire, Mirer, Freisz, Moon, Dilfer, Hamdan, and Teel.


Don't forget Glenn Foley!

I think Russ has the potential to be the best. If he can stay healthy for the duration of his career, I think he'll go down as the Seahawks Greatest PLAYER of all-time, not just QB.


How dare you leave Charlie Whitehurst off this list?!

I loved Hass. He's right up there with my favorite Hawks of all time. But I think of that 2005 offense with a seasoned RW, and all I see is dynasty.

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Don't forget Seneca Wallace. Personally I always admired Dave Krieg for doing what he did with what he had. I am a Wilson fan boy for sure but I'm not ready to jump on the man-crush wagon just yet.:-)

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Been watching since day one. RW IS the very best QB we have ever had. Please GOD keep him healthy and those doubting Thomas's who say it is too early to say this will be proven wrong.
Moon was great but he wasent our QB till late in his career and his time with us was limited. He was a GREAT QB however

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I still cant believe we have a QB this good.I don't care what the press says or who gets ROY we got a man that every Seahawk fan can be proud of, on and off the field.


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I like him.... a lot!

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How about he wins a playoff game first...


he will :thirishdrinkers:

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I loved Hasselbeck but, he gave me confidence with an overwhelming sense of anxiety because
something bad was bound to happen at any moment.
It was a hard offense to control when your main RB goes out on passing plays.

I believe Wilson's offense is easier to handle and he gets a lot of man to man throws.
A run based play action offense makes my nerves happy.

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How about he wins a playoff game first...

I hear this from a number of Hawk fans. Most of them sound like he has lost a ton of playoff games when they say it. How about you let him play in a playoff game before you go all Captain Eeyore?

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Yeah I've seen every Seahawks QB we've ever had play as well. While it's hard to say definitively say that Wilson is the best we've ever had at this point (he's only played 12 NFL Games after all) I will say this. He is most certainly THE most talented Seahawks QB that I've ever seen (that's my opinion). Wilson has the strongest arm (well, Dan McGwire might have had a stronger arm, but he had horrible accuracy and ZERO mobility), is the most accurate, is the best scrambler, and (most importantly of all) is the coolest under fire. He's one if he says, "We want the ball and we're going to score" -- the offense is more than likely going to score. Wilson has the most potential of any QB we've ever had and IMHO (just based upon the eye test) ... I'd say he's got all the makings of a future Super Bowl Winning QB ... and possibly a HOF'er if he keeps up this level of play. You got to bear in mind though that Rick Mirer put up decent numbers (for his era) during his Rookie Season. Look what happened to him. It's extremely highly encouraging and exciting what we've seen from Russell Wilson thus far. But only time will tell. Call me cautiously optimistic.


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