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 Post subject: Schefter: Appeal date set for Sherman, not for Browner
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RT @AdamSchefter: Appeal of Seahawks CB Richard Sherman’s four-game suspension is scheduled for Dec. 14, which means he will play Sunday against Arizona.


Also regarding Browner:

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RT @AdamSchefter: Still no appeal date set for Seahawks CB Brandon Browner.

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 Post subject: Re: Schefter: Appeal date set for Sherman, not for Browner
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Good. We will be able to at least slightly stagger the suspensions.

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I actually think that Sherman playing this weekend turns out to be very bad news for the Hawks, unless of course the ruling is overturned. I would much rather have him miss the Arizona game than the first playoff game. Actually with it being the 14th (which is a Friday) it probably means he'll be available for the Bills games as well unless they pretty much instantaneously make a ruling and would start his suspension in less than 48 hours after the appeal is heard.

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 Post subject: Re: Schefter: Appeal date set for Sherman, not for Browner
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I actually think that Sherman playing this weekend turns out to be very bad news for the Hawks, unless of course the ruling is overturned. I would much rather have him miss the Arizona game than the first playoff game. Actually with it being the 14th (which is a Friday) it probably means he'll be available for the Bills games as well unless they pretty much instantaneously make a ruling and would start his suspension in less than 48 hours after the appeal is heard.


I agree. I'd rather bite the bullet before the playoffs.

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Either way, if he is suspended (which is very likely), it will at least give us some time to get the backups up to speed before playoff time.

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Get it over with please!

is there a backup at the NFL league office for appeals?


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They are going to have a hard time MAKING the playoffs without these guys.

You push theses suspensions back as far as you can.

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Get it over with please!

is there a backup at the NFL league office for appeals?


I remember reading that the NFL actually set a priority on pushing these appeals through. I think the delay is due to the nature of the appeal, in that the actual testing procedures are being called into question, so both sides need time to prepare experts and/or witnesses to the events. It is a bit different than appealing a fine/suspension from on the field play, or off the field conduct. Those things are essentially set in stone by the CBA, and both the NFLPA and the NFL know how much they can push on each side, and the whole process is just a review of the facts. Failed PED/banned substance tests are a lot more complicated, and have in the past pushed all the way to higher level courts.

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They are going to have a hard time MAKING the playoffs without these guys.

You push theses suspensions back as far as you can.




I agree. They are not going to help you out much in the playoffs, if there are no playoffs. Staggering would be ideal.

How long after an appeal does it typically take for Genaralisimo Goodell to make a decision? Is it as fast as same day?


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I've spoken with a few people about this but I haven't seen it posted:

What about the possibility of a reduction to the suspension? Is that possible? Probably unlikely, but it seems to me to a compromise, if in fact that Browner and Sherman have ANY leg to stand on as far as their appeals. if the testing procedure could be questioned maybe they'll reduce the number?

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Tech Worlds wrote:
They are going to have a hard time MAKING the playoffs without these guys.

You push theses suspensions back as far as you can.




I agree. They are not going to help you out much in the playoffs, if there are no playoffs. Staggering would be ideal.

I think that's assuming that the drop off will be HUGE from BB/Sherm to our backups. I don't know who Pete will start in their places, but we don't really know how good or bad our backups are yet. Remember when Sherm was like 3rd or 4th string? There's no reason to think lightning can't strike twice.

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They have been staggered before

@thomasbeekers: For example, Sherman drops now and gets suspended, Browner tries to get it schedule two weeks later. Talib/Wright did something similar.


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Walter Thurmond is a starting caliber NFL CB when healthy. We're not signing loan officers off the street to fill in here, we're expecting legitimate NFL players to step up and do what they're paid to do. Will there be a drop-off? Sure. However, in talking with people that know Carroll's scheme, CB is one of the more fungible positions. If we were to lose Earl it would be a way bigger blow than if we lost Sherm or Browner, regardless of how great we think those two are. Pete relies on his safeties more than his CBs.


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He just needs to face the music and get it over with, I hate to see the Hawks without him I just don't see how holding out will help the team.

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Lets win the division and get a first-round bye.


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jamsomatic wrote:
Lets win the division and get a first-round bye.


theyre suspended 4 games not 4 weeks


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AnchoviesofTerror wrote:
jamsomatic wrote:
Lets win the division and get a first-round bye.


theyre suspended 4 games not 4 weeks


Oh.... Are we certain of that? Yes. I'm guessing we are..... Shucks.


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Digsbone wrote:
He just needs to face the music and get it over with, I hate to see the Hawks without him I just don't see how holding out will help the team.


If he is not guilty it makes all the sense in the world to appeal.

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He just needs to face the music and get it over with, I hate to see the Hawks without him I just don't see how holding out will help the team.


If he is not guilty it makes all the sense in the world to appeal.


It helps the team if he wins his appeal. Sherman isn't an idiot. If he knew he didn't have a shot at appeal i'm sure he would just accept it.

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These last 4 games, barring SF, should be wins for us regardless of having the duo. Having them out now would be highly ideal. I would rather have backups vs az, stl, buf, then having them against GB, CHI, NY in the playoffs.


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