rabbit jacker wrote:Curtis Crabtree reporting that Truant suffered a hamstring injury in practice and Thurmond will be taking his spot this week. Can't say I'm disappointed with this news.

Sgt. Largent wrote:

rabbit jacker wrote:Curtis Crabtree reporting that Truant suffered a hamstring injury in practice and Thurmond will be taking his spot this week. Can't say I'm disappointed with this news.

*quietly puts away Marcus Trufant voodoo doll with pin in hamstring*

iigakusei wrote:Well that is convenient.

roiyair wrote:People here are way too hard on him. He's a solid #3 corner and definitely not the source of our defensive woes like some guys are making it seem.
If we just find our missing run D again things will get way better. It's like the front 7 (8 with Kam) that has played since the Niners game are not the same guys that played in the beginning of the season.

Hope he heals up soon.

hawker84 wrote:

roiyair wrote:People here are way too hard on him. He's a solid #3 corner and definitely not the source of our defensive woes like some guys are making it seem.
If we just find our missing run D again things will get way better. It's like the front 7 (8 with Kam) that has played since the Niners game are not the same guys that played in the beginning of the season.

Hope he heals up soon.

incorrect.. he is not an effective or solid #3, and he is absolutely one of the weak spots on our d.. along with hill..

roiyair wrote:People here are way too hard on him. He's a solid #3 corner and definitely not the source of our defensive woes like some guys are making it seem

Sgt. Largent wrote:

roiyair wrote:People here are way too hard on him. He's a solid #3 corner and definitely not the source of our defensive woes like some guys are making it seem

The stats say otherwise, he's one of the worst statistical nickel corners in the entire league..........as was evident in Miami when Bess who had only been averaging like four catches for 50-60 yards a game torched Trufant inside for 140 yards.

Listen, we all love our Tru, he's been one of the greatest Hawks of all time, both on the team and in the community. But the fact is he's hurting this defense, and he's hurting it bad.

iigakusei wrote:Rice? Oh dear god...

Sgt. Largent wrote:

roiyair wrote:People here are way too hard on him. He's a solid #3 corner and definitely not the source of our defensive woes like some guys are making it seem

The stats say otherwise, he's one of the worst statistical nickel corners in the entire league..........as was evident in Miami when Bess who had only been averaging like four catches for 50-60 yards a game torched Trufant inside for 140 yards.

Listen, we all love our Tru, he's been one of the greatest Hawks of all time, both on the team and in the community. But the fact is he's hurting this defense, and he's hurting it bad.

iigakusei wrote:Rice? Oh dear god...

Sgt. Largent wrote:

roiyair wrote:People here are way too hard on him. He's a solid #3 corner and definitely not the source of our defensive woes like some guys are making it seem

The stats say otherwise, he's one of the worst statistical nickel corners in the entire league..........as was evident in Miami when Bess who had only been averaging like four catches for 50-60 yards a game torched Trufant inside for 140 yards.

Listen, we all love our Tru, he's been one of the greatest Hawks of all time, both on the team and in the community. But the fact is he's hurting this defense, and he's hurting it bad.

roiyair wrote:Not all of his catches were Tru's fault. He isn't anywhere near his prime in coverage but still brings experience and solid tackling ability. sure he isn't one of the top nickle corners in the league, and if Thurmond is anywhere near where he was before that horrible injury he's a better option, but if that were the case we wouldn't have waited for Tru's injury to start Thurmond.

roiyair wrote:Browner started from day one. Sherman was playing at a level no one expected. I think the case with Thurmond is different. We know what he's got, the question is if he's still the same player. I think that if he would've shown on the practice field that he's 100% then he would've gotten some playing time by now.

kidhawk wrote:

Sgt. Largent wrote:

roiyair wrote:People here are way too hard on him. He's a solid #3 corner and definitely not the source of our defensive woes like some guys are making it seem

The stats say otherwise, he's one of the worst statistical nickel corners in the entire league..........as was evident in Miami when Bess who had only been averaging like four catches for 50-60 yards a game torched Trufant inside for 140 yards.

Listen, we all love our Tru, he's been one of the greatest Hawks of all time, both on the team and in the community. But the fact is he's hurting this defense, and he's hurting it bad.

You honestly believe that he was covered by Trufant on every play? That's crazy

T-Sizzle wrote:

roiyair wrote:Browner started from day one. Sherman was playing at a level no one expected. I think the case with Thurmond is different. We know what he's got, the question is if he's still the same player. I think that if he would've shown on the practice field that he's 100% then he would've gotten some playing time by now.

I don't remember Browner starting from Day 1.....maybe Opening Day of the NFL season....but not Day 1. As for your WTIII analysis...we will have to agree to disagree.

Going into the season last year the talk was Tru/WTIII as being the starters. Injury derailed that dream scenario.

T-Sizzle wrote:

roiyair wrote:Browner started from day one. Sherman was playing at a level no one expected. I think the case with Thurmond is different. We know what he's got, the question is if he's still the same player. I think that if he would've shown on the practice field that he's 100% then he would've gotten some playing time by now.

I don't remember Browner starting from Day 1.....maybe Opening Day of the NFL season....but not Day 1. As for your WTIII analysis...we will have to agree to disagree.

Going into the season last year the talk was Tru/WTIII as being the starters. Injury derailed that dream scenario.

Tech Worlds wrote:

iigakusei wrote:Well that is convenient.

My thoughts exactly.

Aros wrote:I agree we will still need Trufant to finish the year especially with the suspensions looming. But after this year, Trufant needs to retire with his head held high.

This Seahawks secondary needs all the help it can obviously get, after giving up 253 yards receiving to a Dolphins team that went in to that game the 25th ranked passing attack in the league. But Seattle hasn’t been getting burned lately because of Sherman and Browner … but because teams have been attacking the Seahawks nickel backs with other receivers from the slot. Hugh Millen on KJR’s Roundtable this week shared that Seattle’s starting cornerbacks (Browner and Sherman) only get burned 43.6% of the time that opposing QB’s pass their way – that’s #1 in the NFL (average is 56%). Rather, it’s Seattle’s nickel backs where the problems actually lie.

That would be Marcus Trufant, who has again and again gotten burned by slot receivers, as have Seattle’s linebackers. While Sherman and Browner’s burn rate is fantastic … Trufant has been burned 72.4% of the time according to Stats Inc. (2nd worst among all 3rd cornerbacks) and he has yet to record a defensed pass. Milled noted that Ryan Tannehill was 8 for 8 in completing passes to slot receivers this past Sunday. To me, that says Trufant just simply just doesn’t have the speed and quickness at this stage of his career to keep up with slot receivers. Walter Thurmond could prove to be a valuable late season addition that might prove to be a huge boost in this game. Trufant was listed as doubtful for this game on Friday with a hamstring injury, so Thurmond will likely get the nod. This could prove to be a real case of addition by subtraction.