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 Post subject: Red and His foot
 Post Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 12:52 pm 
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PC said in his Wednesday presser that Red has plantar facia in his foot. That is really painful anyone that has had it can relate. Maybe out against CHI, if so its Branch to start


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So who would start for Branch @ 3-tech if he kicks over to Red's spot? Jones, Scruggs?


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PC said in his Wednesday pressed that Red has plantar facia in his foot. That is really painful anyone that has had it can relate. Maybe out against CHI, if so its Branch to start


Not only painful but lingering. This derailed Antonio Gates for a couple years. Hopefully Red can shake it.


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So who would start for Branch @ 3-tech if he kicks over to Red's spot? Jones, Scruggs?


Scruggs

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 Post subject: Re: Red and His foot
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I suspected this a several weeks ago when I saw Red limp off with what didnt appear to be an ankle issue. That injury derailed the likes of Chad Brown. Big Red's feet carry a lot of weight. He needs to sit down. Thing is, that generally doesn't heal for months.

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 Post subject: Re: Red and His foot
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I dont like like starting Branch there. That isnt his position, he could be terrible there for all we know

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Put Trufant in his spot, it couldn't be worse than he's doing now


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I heard adderall helps....... - no? must have been thinking about something else


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I've had it, and it's insanely painful.

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Man that would suck...I just got my #79 jersey that I am wearing to the game.


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I dont like like starting Branch there. That isnt his position, he could be terrible there for all we know


I thought we'd played him in that spot before. Could be wrong.

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I've been assuming that Red's foot issue has been hampering his play... and our run D... for the past 4-6 games.

Looks like I may have been right in that assumption.

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As a physical therapist, knowing how long this usually takes to resolve, and considering Red's size, I would predict he'll deal with this for at least the remainder of the season.

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Here is an informative article about the condition and its treatment.

http://arthritis.webmd.com/understandin ... -treatment


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This explains his lack of "presence" on gameday over the past month. I was just wondering about him today and this would explain a lot.

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mikeak wrote:
I heard adderall helps....... - no? must have been thinking about something else


funny!


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kidhawk wrote:
jlwaters1 wrote:
So who would start for Branch @ 3-tech if he kicks over to Red's spot? Jones, Scruggs?


Scruggs


That's pretty cool. I would have though Jones or McDonald. Though Jones is more of a rotational pass rusher not an everydown player. Scruggs has been a steal of a 7th round pick.


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Scruggs might have been a "steal". However, I'd like to "steal" a win in Chicago this Sunday.


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 Post subject: Re: Red and His foot
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I dont like like starting Branch there. That isnt his position, he could be terrible there for all we know


He was primarily a DE in Arizona before we signed him. He's used to playing there.

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 Post subject: Re: Red and His foot
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Dammit ! Jacksonville just claimed Babin off the waiver wire, or we could've signed him.

Branch played a 3-4 DE, which is similar in gap coverage to where he's at now. Big Red is actually playing a 5 tech, which is outside more. I don't think Branch has the athleticism to play that spot. I'm guessing we go with Scruggs in place of big Red, and keep McDonald rotating in pass situations. We might actually see more Irvin on Sunday as well.


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Red slides with what defense we're playing. If we're in an under alignment he's at the 5, if we go to a standard 4-3 he lines up wider and occasionally he even slides down to 3 in the nickel.

If you find youself trying pigeon hole a player into 1 gap assignment 100% of the time....well, just don't try. We're more dynamic than that.

Also, Babin is worthless as a run defender and near worthless as a pass rusher this season. Eagles suck and everyone knows it, but Babin is a one dimensional player who's one dimension has degraded to the point of decay.


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Eagles fans are happy he's gone. I talk to a lot of them all the time. Babin is a cancer. No thank you....


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He may be a cancer, but the Eagles' locker room is weak and divided. We've got a much stronger locker room than that. He may not want to come here anyways after we kicked him to the curb though.


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He may be a cancer, but the Eagles' locker room is weak and divided. We've got a much stronger locker room than that. He may not want to come here anyways after we kicked him to the curb though.

To each his own.

I just got done telling a some Eagles fans that even with 18 sacks I'd still only pay him as a 3rd down pass rusher. He's so completely worthless against the run it's not even funny. He'd never see the field on 1st and 2nd down on my team. As it stands now he wouldn't see the field even on 3rd downs for the Hawks. Clem and Irvin are better players.

Personally, I just don't like quitters and don't care if it was because of a bad Eagles situation. JMHO


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 Post subject: Re: Red and His foot
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Moot point anyways, he's in Jacksonville. We'll see what happens there.


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Sgruggs,Mebane,McDonald and Jones in the DT rotation this week.Maybe we see some Howard as well.


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falcongoggles wrote:
Put Trufant in his spot, it couldn't be worse than he's doing now



The tackle would outrun him.


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FlyingGreg wrote:
I've had it, and it's insanely painful.


Adderall? You're s suspended!


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 Post subject: Re: Red and His foot
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We might actually see more Irvin on Sunday as well.
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Dammit ! Jacksonville just claimed Babin off the waiver wire, or we could've signed him.

Branch played a 3-4 DE, which is similar in gap coverage to where he's at now. Big Red is actually playing a 5 tech, which is outside more. I don't think Branch has the athleticism to play that spot. I'm guessing we go with Scruggs in place of big Red, and keep McDonald rotating in pass situations. We might actually see more Irvin on Sunday as well.


We might actually see more Irvin on Sunday as well.


more Irvin



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I've had it, and it's insanely painful.


Adderall? You're s suspended!



I'm sure he's referring to planter faciitis and it damned sure is painful. Grant Wistrom struggled with it for his last 2 years.

I had it for almost 3. Did the wrapping, shots, inserts, none of which were worth a crap. Finally a low grade anti inflamatory called diclofenic cured it in about 2 hours and I haven't had a problem with it since.

Its not a problem as long you don't want to walk or run.

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