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Fran Tarkenton
Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:44 am
  • During Sundays game, the announcers compared RW to Tarkenton. I remember back in the day that Zorn was sometimes referred as a poor mans Tarkenton. As high as I have been on RW, I never even thought of this comparison. What surprised me the most was the revelation that Tarkenton was only 5'11"! So Brees was not the 1st sub 6' QB to be successful. Not as rare as we have been led to believe.
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Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:51 am
  • Fran Tarkenton was amazing. Loved watching him. Vikings were my second favorite team ... behind the Packers.
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Re: Fran Tarenton
Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:51 am
  • From day one, Pete compared him to Tarkenton.
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Re: Fran Tarenton
Mon Nov 26, 2012 10:42 am
  • I saw Tark through nearly his entire career (his first season was '61 and I started watching NFL in '64) including his Super Bowl seasons (all 4 of them). To my eyes there are quite a few similarities, but I think Russ has a much stronger arm than Tark did. His arm was about average IIRC. I also think Wilson scrambles with gaining yards with his feet as his main purpose (right now) whereas Fran used to scramble around to buy time for a receiver to get open more often than not. We'll likely see that as Russ's main purpose for scrambling soon as well so as to keep himself from getting injured running for yardage (and hopefully cuz the o-line improves to the point of him not needing to scramble nearly as much).
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Re: Fran Tarenton
Mon Nov 26, 2012 11:05 am
  • Terrible comparison. Tarkenton was white. Seneca Wallace with talent is a better comparison. :sarcasm_off:
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Re: Fran Tarenton
Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:32 pm
  • The similarities they showed during the broadcast were pretty amazing.
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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 1:39 pm
  • and they both from Richmond Virginia.
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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 2:13 pm
  • Personally, I think Tarkenton took off running a LOT more, but other than that, I like the comparison. What scares me about it, however, is that Tarkenton never won a SB.
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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:25 pm
  • I always thought Tarkenton scrambled mostly to get a chance to throw the ball. I don't remember him trying to run as much as not getting sacked.

    Remember in those days there were none of the "pink tutu's" rule about tackling QBs as there are now. If you were on the field you could get blasted anytime and double that if you tried to run.

    And the not winning any SBs those teams survived a lot because of him and no matter what they say now about Minnesota's Purple Gang, they weren't as good as our guys were earlier this year. And teams ran more "down the field" offenses in the passing game. If you couldn't give your QB time to throw he was dead if he couldn't scramble.

    envision Dick Butkus tackling a scrambling Fran Tarkenton......

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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:27 pm
  • When Fran retired he had the most passing yards and rushing yards for a QB all time.

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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 5:56 pm
  • I like the comparison.

    Wilson started out the season bailing from the pocket early, rolling out, looking for another option, then taking off.

    Now, he buys time in the pocket, scrambles looking to throw, and after all that, then takes off running. It's part of his progression, and a part of his game that I really like. He's a good enough passer that he doesn't have to rely on his athleticism, it enhances his game. Another big thing I like about Russell is that he is really smart about running out of bounds, sliding, or knowing when to put his shoulder down. I haven't seen him get blasted once on a run yet; he's taking bigger hits in the pocket. His entire game is just so....smart.
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Re: Fran Tarenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:00 pm
  • HawkFan72 wrote:The similarities they showed during the broadcast were pretty amazing.


    That's what I felt like. Especially when Wilson turns his back to the D. It was like a mirror image.
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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:45 pm
  • Yeah, but could Fran Tarkenton's wife do this:

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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:37 pm
  • oldhawkfan wrote:During Sundays game, the announcers compared RW to Tarkenton. I remember back in the day that Zorn was sometimes referred as a poor mans Tarkenton. As high as I have been on RW, I never even thought of this comparison. What surprised me the most was the revelation that Tarkenton was only 5'11"! So Brees was not the 1st sub 6' QB to be successful. Not as rare as we have been led to believe.

    Nobody, at any position, was as big as they are now.

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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:14 pm
  • SalishHawkFan wrote:Yeah, but could Fran Tarkenton's wife do this:

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    My beating heart be still... :179417:
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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:00 pm
  • sutz wrote:
    oldhawkfan wrote:During Sundays game, the announcers compared RW to Tarkenton. I remember back in the day that Zorn was sometimes referred as a poor mans Tarkenton. As high as I have been on RW, I never even thought of this comparison. What surprised me the most was the revelation that Tarkenton was only 5'11"! So Brees was not the 1st sub 6' QB to be successful. Not as rare as we have been led to believe.

    Nobody, at any position, was as big as they are now.

    :229031_shrug:


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Re: Fran Tarkenton
Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:02 pm
  • chawx wrote:
    SalishHawkFan wrote:Yeah, but could Fran Tarkenton's wife do this:

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    My beating heart be still... :179417:


    It's a good thing Russell has big hands.
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