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 Post subject: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
 Post Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:41 am 
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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Maybe if this was written after week 3 he would have a more compelling argument.

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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Lol, I bit. Did you know Tannenhill is best against the blitz and the Hawks like to bring extra rushers like IRVIN? Hahahaha! Irvin is now an "extra rusher". LOL!

And RT is good with the deep ball. Deep ball? Ask Rodgers how well trying to throw deep vs the Hawks works. RT will get carted off the field if all he's got is a good deep ball.

And finally, he brought up the Green Bay game.

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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Until the Hawks can win another road game, I can see why the media gives the Phins a chance. I do. Sorry guys...and yeah, the author is an idiot but this will not be an easy game. We HAVE to win, NOW.


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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Well, he does make some valid points and our road woes are well chronicled (and not just THIS season either), but IMHO Miami will need to play a perfect game AND the Seahawks will have to make more than a couple errors, on both sides of the ball, for them to lose this game…

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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Lol, I bit. Did you know Tannenhill is best against the blitz and the Hawks like to bring extra rushers like IRVIN? Hahahaha! Irvin is now an "extra rusher". LOL!

And RT is good with the deep ball. Deep ball? Ask Rodgers how well trying to throw deep vs the Hawks works. RT will get carted off the field if all he's got is a good deep ball.

And finally, he brought up the Green Bay game.

Total idiot.


He should just write: It's a road game. It's the Seahawks. That's sound reasoning.

Agreed on the extra rusher. Whoever wrote this hasn't watched this defense.


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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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SalishHawkFan wrote:
Lol, I bit. Did you know Tannenhill is best against the blitz and the Hawks like to bring extra rushers like IRVIN? Hahahaha! Irvin is now an "extra rusher". LOL!

I laughed when I saw that too!

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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Pretty worthless article. I'm pretty sure that the Fins just lost to the Bills and didn't score and offensive TD. The Dolphins are ripe for the taking. The question is weather or not the Seahawks will TAKE IT! They did it with our past 2 home games beating teams they should beat. They Absolutely need this one.


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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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I watched the Dolphins vs. Bills game, those are two dumpster fire teams nowhere close to being considered "playoff caliber."

If the Hawks consider themselves a playoff team, we have no business losing to a team like the Dolphins.

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The only "fact" that "article" got right was the fact we stink on the road. Unfortunately... that's very correct. But Miami really sucks and we were able to go down to Carolina and beat that garbage team, so Miami should be pretty do-able as well.

PS I hate the Dolphins uniforms. How was it that people used to make fun of "Seahawk Blue" but "Dolphin WTF is that, green?" gets a pass? Oh and you're going to just go ahead and put orange in there too? SMH

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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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While I disagree with parts of the article, its a sign of respect that someone has to come up with reasons (albiet incorrect) that the Dolphins can beat the Seahawks. In years past they would be overlooking this game as an easy win.


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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Sgt. Largent wrote:
If the Hawks consider themselves a playoff team, we have no business losing to a team like the Dolphins.


People insist on saying things like this, as though the majority of playoff teams don't have a loss to a 6-10 or worse team on their resume during the season.


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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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MidwestHawker wrote:
Sgt. Largent wrote:
If the Hawks consider themselves a playoff team, we have no business losing to a team like the Dolphins.


People insist on saying things like this, as though the majority of playoff teams don't have a loss to a 6-10 or worse team on their resume during the season.


Yeah well we already have a couple of those on our resume.

Good teams beat bad teams, even on the road.

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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Sgt. Largent wrote:
MidwestHawker wrote:
Sgt. Largent wrote:
If the Hawks consider themselves a playoff team, we have no business losing to a team like the Dolphins.


People insist on saying things like this, as though the majority of playoff teams don't have a loss to a 6-10 or worse team on their resume during the season.


Yeah well we already have a couple of those on our resume.

Good teams beat bad teams, even on the road.


By that reasoning, here is a list of other teams that are not good:

Green Bay (lost to Indy 30-27; despite the 6-4 record, Indy is a bad team that does only one thing well... generate yards on offense)

New England (lost to Arizona 20-18, at home no less)

Baltimore (lost to a bad Philly team)

Pittsburgh (lost to Oakland and Tennessee, even before they lost Roethlisberger)

New York Giants (also lost to Philly)

Atlanta (lost to New Orleans, a team that can't play defense and lost to Washington on their own field)

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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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volsunghawk wrote:

By that reasoning, here is a list of other teams that are not good:

Green Bay (lost to Indy 30-27; despite the 6-4 record, Indy is a bad team that does only one thing well... generate yards on offense)

New England (lost to Arizona 20-18, at home no less)

Baltimore (lost to a bad Philly team)

Pittsburgh (lost to Oakland and Tennessee, even before they lost Roethlisberger)

New York Giants (also lost to Philly)

Atlanta (lost to New Orleans, a team that can't play defense and lost to Washington on their own field)


Miami is nowhere close to the quality that these teams were early on in the season (save for maybe Oakland), which is when most of these "bad" teams beat the better teams.........and NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE wants to play the Saints right now.

I still stand by the fact that there's no reason we shouldn't go into Miami after the bye week and beat a bad Dolphins team. If the Hawks don't win, it's not a death blow, but it'll say a lot about what our chances are going down to stretch to make the playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Sgt. Largent wrote:
volsunghawk wrote:

By that reasoning, here is a list of other teams that are not good:

Green Bay (lost to Indy 30-27; despite the 6-4 record, Indy is a bad team that does only one thing well... generate yards on offense)

New England (lost to Arizona 20-18, at home no less)

Baltimore (lost to a bad Philly team)

Pittsburgh (lost to Oakland and Tennessee, even before they lost Roethlisberger)

New York Giants (also lost to Philly)

Atlanta (lost to New Orleans, a team that can't play defense and lost to Washington on their own field)


Miami is nowhere close to the quality that these teams were early on in the season (save for maybe Oakland), which is when most of these "bad" teams beat the better teams.........and NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE wants to play the Saints right now.

I still stand by the fact that there's no reason we shouldn't go into Miami after the bye week and beat a bad Dolphins team. If the Hawks don't win, it's not a death blow, but it'll say a lot about what our chances are going down to stretch to make the playoffs.


I agree that we should beat Miami. However, I disagree that the outcome of any one game "says a lot" about our team's chances - that is, unless the one game is a game where we can either clinch a playoff spot or be eliminated from the postseason.

Dom said it best earlier... teams are defined by the entire 16-game season, not by one game here or there where people have expectations about what should occur. New Orleans, as you pointed out, is an excellent example. They were an easy out early in the season, and are a dangerous team right now. Still, they started out 0-4, and I guarantee you there were people on their boards going into that 4th game saying, "This is a game a playoff team wins, no question." They lost to the CHIEFS of all teams - at home. By the assertions that tend to be tossed around here at .NET, there's no way the Saints are a good team. They just can't be because of who they've lost games to and how many they lost in a row.

But see, I don't buy that. I think the Saints are still playoff-caliber, and I think Seattle is playoff-caliber as well. Losing to Miami won't change that... it'll just make getting into the postseason a bit tougher.

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Sometimes it's not all about who you play but when you play them.


Very true. In that regard we haven't been terribly lucky this season. We got Arizona when they were hot. We got STL when they were over-achieving. We got the Lions on Stafford's best day. We got SF on the road on 4 days rest on a Thursday- a game that has almost always been won by the home team this season. Really the only break we got was getting GB early in the season when they still looked mortal. I'd say the same for NE, but by yardage they actually skinned us alive in that game- we were very fortunate to win.

The Dolphins and maybe the Jets are the first teams this year where I am happy we caught them when they did. I really wish we had caught Chicago when SF did though. Man what a break that was for them.


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 Post subject: Re: I suppose anythings possible; but not likely
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Until the Hawks can win another road game, I can see why the media gives the Phins a chance. I do. Sorry guys...and yeah, the author is an idiot but this will not be an easy game. We HAVE to win, NOW.


Agreed, however to do a proper analysis you have to consider Wilson's growth as the season goes on. He's shown improvement which somewhat negates this narrative that because they struggled on the road earlier this season so they will later in the season. Additionally all the road losses could easily have been road wins. Learning to win in the other teams house is more difficult and learning how to do that is part of the maturation process. Besides the Lions loss was largely attributable to defensive underperformance. Russell did enough in that game to win it which tells me he's on the verge of another step in his evolution as team leader and elite QB status.


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Seattle played its first four two road games with a nerfed playbook in the hands of a rookie QB, and still lost two road games by only two plays. That doesn't hint at some horrible fundamental problem with this team. We're not playing with an embryonic playbook anymore.

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