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 Post subject: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/standings/_/type ... rder/false

I dont get why Minnesota would be ahead of Seattle since we beat Minnesota? Is this just a mistake, or am I not understanding this right? :?:


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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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They have it wrong. First tiebreaker is head to head.


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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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because its espn and they are morons lol


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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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Thats what I thought!!! I just wanted to make sure!


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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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Is it a 3way tie?

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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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1. crap
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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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pehawk wrote:
Is it a 3way tie?

It is. TB, Min, and Sea. However, Minnesota would be eliminated by the head to head tiebreaker having lost to both teams, and Seattle would then beat out Tampa with a better conference winning percentage.


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pehawk wrote:
Is it a 3way tie?

It is. TB, Min, and Sea. However, Minnesota would be eliminated by the head to head tiebreaker having lost to both teams, and Seattle would then beat out Tampa with a better conference winning percentage.


That's a change then. I believe in 1988 or so Hawks lost in 3 way tie, even though they defeated both teams. Or, they beat one team, who had defeated the other. Something whacky.

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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM

If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.

1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

Three or More Clubs

(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)

1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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They have it right. If it's a 3 way tie the first tiebreaker is whoever has the best conference record (which is Minnesota).


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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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thebanjodude wrote:
They have it right. If it's a 3 way tie the first tiebreaker is whoever has the best conference record (which is Minnesota).


NOO! Its because ESPN is stupid.

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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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It's because ESPN still has us as losing to Green Bay on MNF...


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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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They have it wrong. First tiebreaker is head to head.

Yup what he said Typical ESPN shit. I have grown to really dislike them over the last few years.

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Now I'm confused


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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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Told you guys, Tampa Bay will not win a wildcard, they just end up screwing the Seahawks over.


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 Post subject: Re: Why does ESPN say Minnesota is ahead of Seattle?
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pinksheets wrote:
pehawk wrote:
Is it a 3way tie?

It is. TB, Min, and Sea. However, Minnesota would be eliminated by the head to head tiebreaker having lost to both teams, and Seattle would then beat out Tampa with a better conference winning percentage.


+1

That's correct. I was confused on this too for a while. The three-way head to head is what confused me. But what you just mentioned is exactly right.

In this case, ESPN is wrong.

NFL.com has the correct seeding and current playoff picture, as was mentioned in another thread.

http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture

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