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 Post subject: Grudens QB Camp: The difference between Wilson and Cam
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So I was bored browsing football videos on youtube which brought me to Cam Newtons QB Camp with Gruden. After watching it, it reassured me just how much of a diamond in the rough we found in Wilson. I had to go back and watch Wilsons QB Camp again.


It's night and day. Every curveball, every formation, every scheme, every call Gruden threw at it him, Russell Wilson answered with what seemed like before Gruden could even finish asking the question. Cam on the other hand....ummm......has mad SWAG

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 Post subject: Re: Grudens QB Camp: The difference between Wilson and Cam
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At this point.. I'd say Cam has more athleticism. Wilson has more heart.

Heart usually trumps athleticism.

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 Post subject: Re: Grudens QB Camp: The difference between Wilson and Cam
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If by athleticism you mean is taller....cam has it hands down. Pretty much everything else Wilson wins.


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 Post subject: Re: Grudens QB Camp: The difference between Wilson and Cam
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Yeah I dont think Cam Newton could go pro in another sport like Wilson did.


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I think RW is more cerebral than Newton. In my opinion that's why Cam seems to be more athletic because he has to rely on it more than RW.

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Great Wilson video. Gruden really grilled him about everything, even his height. Gruden knew someone was going to get the steal of the draft. Glad it was us.


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Hasselbeck wrote:
At this point.. I'd say Cam has more athleticism. Wilson has more heart.

Heart usually trumps athleticism.


Cam is taller...but that is it. Wilson played minor league baseball...and he is a football star.... I would venture to say Wilson has more pure athleticism.

Height =/= athleticism.

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Hasselbeck wrote:
At this point.. I'd say Cam has more athleticism. Wilson has more heart.

Heart usually trumps athleticism.


Well put!

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Hasselbeck wrote:
At this point.. I'd say Cam has more athleticism. Wilson has more heart.

Heart usually trumps athleticism.


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I'd venture to say if you watched every QBs Gruden camp Russell Wilsons would have been the most cerebral. It was like two offensive coordinators were bull****ing with each other. Wilsons a coach on the field as well as QB.


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I'd venture to say if you watched every QBs Gruden camp Russell Wilsons would have been the most cerebral. It was like two offensive coordinators were bull****ing with each other. Wilsons a coach on the field as well as QB.



I was thinking about that recently. Someday Wilson would make a great NFL coach.


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 Post subject: Re: Grudens QB Camp: The difference between Wilson and Cam
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Cam is taller...but that is it. Wilson played minor league baseball...and he is a football star.... I would venture to say Wilson has more pure athleticism.

Height =/= athleticism.


Not saying Wilson isn't athletic, but Cam is a freak of nature. 6-5, 240 and runs faster than a lot of running backs. Can throw the ball probably a good 60-70 yards without much effort.

But again. He doesn't have the heart. He doesn't have the work ethic Wilson does. Really, few QB's have that.

Goes back to what I pointed out yesterday.. Wilson had a REALLY .. just bad quarter and a half after the opening touchdown drive. And many many quarterbacks young and old would have folded from such a start, but Wilson never really shows frustration. When you watch Brady, Manning, Brees, Warner back in the day.. they all have that same calm/cool demeanor even when they have a 4 turnover game going on. It's a rare trait that can't be taught to a player, you either have it or you don't. Many do not, Wilson does.

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I find it surprising somebody saying Cam doesn't have the heart. He singlehandedly pretty much willed Auburn to greatness. Look at that team since he left. They flat out suck. If that isn't having heart, then I don't know what is.

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Shark,

College you can get by by just being a man amongst boys. In the NFL, everyone is a man.


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 Post subject: Re: Grudens QB Camp: The difference between Wilson and Cam
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Wonder what kind of notes Cam leaves for his receivers on Monday morning


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kornd4wg93 wrote:
Wonder what kind of notes Cam leaves for his receivers on Monday morning


He doesn't, he just checks his suggestion box...

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interesting. For those criticizing Bevell and his empty backfield on 3rd and short, check out the 16:00 mark. Looks like he's actually playing to Russell's strengths.


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 Post subject: Re: Grudens QB Camp: The difference between Wilson and Cam
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Plus he was getting paid by Auburn. There's extra motiviation/will.

Steve2222 wrote:
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College you can get by by just being a man amongst boys. In the NFL, everyone is a man.


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Slick wrote:
Plus he was getting paid by Auburn. There's extra motiviation/will.

Steve2222 wrote:
Shark,

College you can get by by just being a man amongst boys. In the NFL, everyone is a man.


He's getting paid by the Panthers.

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I TOTALLY agree.
Cam is a pure stud athletically... but he is VERY insecure
and more often than not 'swag' is he byproduct of insecurity.
On the other hand, Rdub seems to be the perfect case study of
how important an involved, great father is in a young boy's life... imho.
Speaking of fathers, I noticed in your siggy Shark that your Father
and I have the same birthday! Must have been an awesome dad! :th2thumbs:

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Russell Wilson is going to be the first person ever to win multiple Super Bowls as a player and as a coach for the same team. Book it.

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chawx wrote:
Russell Wilson is going to be the first person ever to win multiple Super Bowls as a player and as a coach for the same team. Book it.


Now that, my friend, is a bold prediction. I hope if this happens, that somehow, someway, we can find this post Chawx and give you the credit that you will certainly deserve. (That said, when you think about it, it isn't too hard to imagine.)

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chawx wrote:
Russell Wilson is going to be the first person ever to win multiple Super Bowls as a player and as a coach for the same team. Book it.


+1,000,000

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I remember watching this QB's camp and being very impressed with Wilson's intangibles. I'd been impressed with Wilson overall, but thought he might be too short.

After watching this, I remember thinking that he can't help but succeed with his attitude.


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Steve2222 wrote:
Shark,

College you can get by by just being a man amongst boys. In the NFL, everyone is a man.


Yep.. Anyone remember the Vince Young game against USC???

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Steve2222 wrote:
Yeah I dont think Cam Newton could go pro in another sport like Wilson did.



You don't think he could throw a fastball?

6-6. 250 with a rocket arm...any yahoo can throw a ball...dosnt take science. Just luck for. God


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I'd venture to say if you watched every QBs Gruden camp Russell Wilsons would have been the most cerebral. It was like two offensive coordinators were bull****ing with each other. Wilsons a coach on the field as well as QB.



I was thinking about that recently. Someday Wilson would make a great NFL coach.


Whoa! Slow down buddy. Let's wait until he has completed his HOF Career.

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