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Great game at the Clink today, but I couldn't help but notice how "not loud" it was. Even during the times where the crowd usually gets crazy (3rd downs, ect) it was mildly loud, but not up to our standards.

Only thing I can think is that the weather made everyone layered up and hunkered down, but we better bring our A game next time!

Otherwise, fun game for sure!

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It was not as loud as it could have been, true. I did my part, though. My voice is shot.

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It's been pretty subdued all season, actually. I went to the Vikings game and was surprised how quiet it was.

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I was in the south endzone and it sounded plenty loud. but then i could have just been hearing myself and my group. Just like the guys on the field, i just do MY job and hope everyone else is doing theirs. What pissed me off was the boneheads doing "SEAHAWKS" while we were on offence and trying to score!

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Noticed it a little on tv too. Think it was the 2:00 minute warning in the 4th, they showed a few people sitting in the their parkas looking depressed. The game was decided by then so not sure what was up there.


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It's been pretty subdued all season, actually. I went to the Vikings game and was surprised how quiet it was.

Not all season. The GB and Dallas games were really loud. Today was pretty weak though.


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Odd because didnt the Jets have like 4 false start penalties?


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Maybe we're losing our hearing.

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I was a little bummed about this too. My Cousins were in town from New York and I was hoping they would get a full forced 12. Now all I will hear is how quite our stadium is.


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FlyingGreg wrote:
It's been pretty subdued all season, actually. I went to the Vikings game and was surprised how quiet it was.


Not all season. The GB and Dallas games were really loud. Today was pretty weak though.


Yes, all season. No comparison to previous years.

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It sounded plenty loud on TV at the points where it needed to be. The game was kind of in the bag though and it felt that way the whole time. There wasn't really much that was "scary" after Sherman got the INT in the endzone, and it was loud on that drive. After the Hawks put it in cruise control everybody just looked to be hunkering down and enjoying. The rain seemed to coincide with the point the Jets gave up.

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We need to get people to stop selling off their tickets to "Band Wagon" jumpers that just go to say they were there and not go all in and yell their lungs out. It you can still talk, you didnt do your job!

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All pre game is seemed like everyone was holding conversations.
Too quiet all game, it's wierd.

I thought we'd go nuts with a big defense. Seems its the opposite.

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Riley wasn't there. Simple.

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LymonHawk wrote:
Riley wasn't there. Simple.

Its true. I had Riley's seats, and the guys who know him there told me I couldn't hold his jock. They said I wasn't that loud either. Sorry. It's tough to follow a legend.

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The 2005 12's are getting old and their vocal cords are wearing down. Time for the next generation to step up. Come on youngins!

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I felt like it wasn't as loud last week as I'm used to but I chalked it up to being down on the field. Usually I'm way up high in the double letters and I can't even hear myself think.

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Sorry guys.
I wasn't there today.
I gave up my tix to my associate who covers me all season long so I can go to the games.
Huge sacrifice from section 133.

but we won, so screw it.


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I had a blast at the game...got to take my 7 year old grandson. But I agree it was much quieter than normal. We could actually hold conversations most of the game. When we are at our loudest best, you just can't talk. However, I was at the Patriots game and it was much louder almost the whole game.

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Today was by far the most pathetic I've heard from #12. Absolutely horrible. From the moment the players ran out, to the raising of the flag from a true American hero, to the game itself, by far the most docile, tame, LAME effort I have ever heard from #12 today.

Where has 12 gone???!?!?!?!?!?

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i cant tell how loud it is because i am screaming my lungs out each snap.

i honestly have no idea how you can tell how loud it is if you are doing the same.

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Completely disagree with all who are saying the stadium is quieter than usual. Been to every home game the last 4 years. BeastQuake game was obviously loudest, but the stadium is still damn loud every other game. Maybe you all should get your ears checked!


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Absolutely wrong. I've been to every game at Seahawks Stadium/Qwest Field/Century Link and there's no question in my mind the crowd today was the worst ever.

And PS, don't get your panties in a bunch, I'm not talking about YOU specifically (reading these words), but the crowd in general.

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I'm wondering if its because of the opposition these last two weeks. I mean Dallas, Green Bay, New England.. that gets the blood flowing, I think everyone sort of expected us to handle the Jets.

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Completely disagree with all who are saying the stadium is quieter than usual. Been to every home game the last 4 years. BeastQuake game was obviously loudest, but the stadium is still damn loud every other game. Maybe you all should get your ears checked!


Not true at all. There is a noticeable difference from previous seasons.

It kinda sucks.

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I'm wondering if its because of the opposition these last two weeks. I mean Dallas, Green Bay, New England.. that gets the blood flowing, I think everyone sort of expected us to handle the Jets.

Could be.

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I think it is because Tebow wanted it so. One cannot challenge the will of the righteous.

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I think it is because Tebow wanted it so. One cannot challenge the will of the righteous.

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i cant tell how loud it is because i am screaming my lungs out each snap.

i honestly have no idea how you can tell how loud it is if you are doing the same.

honestly

I could hear me yelling is how I know. I really did leave it all out there. But it was easy to look around and see others not doing the same.

Still had fun, and it was still a lot louder than Glendale.

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i cant tell how loud it is because i am screaming my lungs out each snap.

i honestly have no idea how you can tell how loud it is if you are doing the same.

honestly

I could hear me yelling is how I know. I really did leave it all out there. But it was easy to look around and see others not doing the same.

Still had fun, and it was still a lot louder than Glendale.


i call bs!! you sat on your hands! bring it bro!

nice to meet you and the misses today!

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Tech Worlds wrote:
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i cant tell how loud it is because i am screaming my lungs out each snap.

i honestly have no idea how you can tell how loud it is if you are doing the same.

honestly

I could hear me yelling is how I know. I really did leave it all out there. But it was easy to look around and see others not doing the same.

Still had fun, and it was still a lot louder than Glendale.


i call bs!! you sat on your hands! bring it bro!

nice to meet you and the misses today!

likewise. it was truly a pleasure. You and yours, Seatown, MysterMatt (who my wife said was almost as good lookin as me), ZagNut, Aros, it was like going to Mt Rushmore, only better.

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Fix it. Perhaps electric cattle prods brought to the remaining games to be aimed discriminately at nearby seats could rectify the recent lack of crowd noise.

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Great meeting ya finally Scott! As for the crowd, I really do think it comes down to the crowd tends to play down to the opponent as well. Not just the team. 12 is definitely in full throat when there's a big ticket team in town or a division rival. I think the collective 12 thought this game was going to be a cakewalk and the Jets are just not a team we care about or get up for here in the NW so there you have it.

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I flew out to see the Dallas game this year and thought that game was really loud... Much louder then the saints sunday night game in 2007 that I went to. Id say almost as loud as the tony romo fumble game.


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I'm sure there are quite a few posters here who lose their voices no matter the situation, but for the crowd at large what really affects crowd noise is how much the crowd thinks they need to be loud. Division games, close games, games against good offenses, etc. Playoff games have been the loudest in my experience, but also early season divisional games especially when the weather has been mild.

Yesterday was a cold and rainy outdoor game against a team from another conference that everybody thought we would beat handily. We were never behind, and everybody felt that the Jets offense sucked. Is that an excuse? Maybe not, but it shouldn't be surprising.

If you are looking for the loudest experience come to the 49ers game and you'll get way more noise, especially if the game is close and the crowd thinks their contribution will have playoff implications.

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Screamed as much as I do every game, Section 127 never holds back, guess I just hear myself and the people around me b/c it seemed loud to me.

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I sold my tickets yesterday :(

I'll be there for all three divisional games though.

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Maybe the slow start with the defensive TD and the rain put a damper on things.


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I've also been to every home game since around 1999/2000, and I totally disagree. The crowd was super loud yesterday, but there are a few reasons I think people mistakenly thought it was "quieter than usual":

1) The Jets weren't on offense very much, and when they were, the drives weren't long enough to sustain intensity. A lot of 3-and-outs and plays that didn't last long for the Jets offense. But whenever their QBs were under center, the Clink was rockin!!

2) Fans misjudge crowd volume based on what they hear on TV. The TV broadcasts use heavy filtering during the audio mix to reduce crowd noise so that you can hear the analysts. You can't judge crowd noise by the TV broadcast.

3) Fans in the end zone areas mistakenly assume that the volume they hear is the same as on the field. This is not the case at all. The parabolic design of the cover means that noise is amplified and directed toward the field, and reduces dramatically at each end zone. By the time you get up into the seating area, you are looking at a 40-50db reduction (and that drops exponentially as you move up in the seating areas).

4) Season ticket holders and fans who attend regularly compare the volume to games previously attended. But your brain has no way of accurately recording historical sensory data such as sound. It is impossible to compare without a decibel meter.

I was in CLB46, and every person in our group commented that it was one of the louder games this season. It was loud enough and wild enough in the Clink to rattle the windows in our suite, which is at the very end of the North end zone area (so no advantage of being under the cover where noise is amplified).

I've heard these complaints about volume a few times, but don't agree with them. I think it's due more to fans inflating their previous experiences in memory, which is quite common. That's what our brains do. When we think back to experiences we enjoy, our brains will always exaggerate certain elements of our memories. As I said previously, you have no objective way to compare sound without a decibel meter.

It'd be interesting though if someone had a decibel meter, and could go to games every week and record various readings so we could look at them later. Maybe I should buy one and do that. My inner science nerd just perked up at the thought of that.


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yes the crowd was super loud compared to the vikings game. The highest intensity is during goal line stands and 3 and long situations. I have seen some of them standing up and starting to gesture to others to stand up and make noise and then the crow follows suit. Its absolute chaos for opposing teams.


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So I went on Amazon to find a good decibel meter and ran into a problem right off the bat. Most microphones are only sensitive to 130db, and meters that go higher than that are very expensive. I know the Clink is regularly over 130db, so I'm afraid it would be difficult to impossible to record and compare decibel readings from the Clink without very expensive professional equipment.


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The "heaviness" of the air density was a definite factor in the apparent "loudness" yesterday. The sound waves cannot travel as fast in the "heavy air".

Should Arizona continue to lose the next three weeks, then I'm concerned that Dec. 14th could be a "trap game" when they come into town.....no matter how loud we sound! Then again...we lose two on the Road, we'll be really pissed!


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So I went on Amazon to find a good decibel meter and ran into a problem right off the bat. Most microphones are only sensitive to 130db, and meters that go higher than that are very expensive. I know the Clink is regularly over 130db, so I'm afraid it would be difficult to impossible to record and compare decibel readings from the Clink without very expensive professional equipment.


I think it was palatypus who had the decibel meter and most times it was registering around 120 dB. (I also think the magic mark was 124dB for false starts.)

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The "heaviness" of the air density was a definite factor in the apparent "loudness" yesterday. The sound waves cannot travel as fast in the "heavy air".

Should Arizona continue to lose the next three weeks, then I'm concerned that Dec. 14th could be a "trap game" when they come into town.....no matter how loud we sound! Then again...we lose two on the Road, we'll be really pissed!


I hope they are still playing this game on Dec. 9th [not the 14th!] or I will be arriving in Seattle many days too early!!!

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