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 Post subject: Russell Wilson- the silently elite QB
 Post Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2012 8:24 pm 
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Wilson has started 10 games this season. Of those ten games, he posted passer ratings of 96 or better in six(!) of them. Only three times has he posted a passer rating well below the NFL median. Those three games were Arizona, St. Louis, and San Francisco.

Arizona was not a great game for Wilson, but it was also his very first game and in a very difficult situation.

The Rams game was actually a pretty decent game for Wilson, but his statistics were marred by three interceptions, all of which were unusual/fluke plays. It masked a performance where Wilson completed 68% of his passes.

The 49ers game was actually a great game for Wilson, but you'd never know it because of timely drops and tough breaks, including at least one dropped pass that might have been a touchdown. Wilson passed the eyeball test early on before the 49ers took the lead late and didn't look back.

So far, Wilson has had 6 fantastic games, 3 poor games, and 1 ordinary game (Carolina). And in all 3 of his poor games, Wilson was facing (at the time) a high ranked defense on the road and had tough breaks go against him that would have made a high passer rating almost impossible. In Arizona it was the non-existent pass protection. In St. Louis it was the bounce of the ball. In San Francisco it was drops. When Seattle has given Wilson decent protection, caught the ball, and avoided freaky turnovers, Wilson has very consistently played on an elite level.

A lot of people have talked about Seattle needed to prove themselves on the road. To that I'll just say this- stay out of Wilson's way and play respectable defense, and the road wins will take care of themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: Russell Wilson- the silently elite QB
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He certainly has the look of a top-drawer QB, with an ability to seemingly make any throw and put the ball where only his guy can catch it or it falls incomplete. Has he had some bumps in the road? Of course, but no more than any other rookie QB has in the normal run of things.

I interested to see how he fares on the two game road trip. Miami is almost a deceptively easy-looking game, especially for Wilson. Chicago scares me. That defense is big, fast and likes to take the ball away. Big test for Wilson and the rest of the offense.

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He's no Marcus Mariota, but he'll do for now. :twisted:

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As ridiculous as it sounds I can imagine Wilson in the Hall of Fame one day.

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As ridiculous as it sounds I can imagine Wilson in the Hall of Fame one day.


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As far as kearly's post.. I wouldn't say Wilson is elite yet. He has a very solid completion percentage and TD/INT ratio (10 to 2 over the last five weeks) .. but he's been sub 200 yards in 7 of 10 starts. That's anything but elite. That's Alex Smith.

He's doing well though limiting mistakes and has shown marked improvement over his last five starts compared to his first five starts. But saying he's elite and Hall-of-Fame bound is extremely premature IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Russell Wilson- the silently elite QB
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I've supported RW and continue to support him. But RW did a terrible job protecting that football today. I think he ended up making it up with his other plays, but I don't like seeing him trying to do TOO much. I would have rather him take a short sack than try to scramble backwards (or fumble) trying to improvise too much.

That said, I love how resilient he was and his early mistakes did not get him down. The second half was much better for him.


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As far as kearly's post.. I wouldn't say Wilson is elite yet. He has a very solid completion percentage and TD/INT ratio (10 to 2 over the last five weeks) .. but he's been sub 200 yards in 7 of 10 starts. That's anything but elite. That's Alex Smith.

He's doing well though limiting mistakes and has shown marked improvement over his last five starts compared to his first five starts. But saying he's elite and Hall-of-Fame bound is extremely premature IMO.


So you would argue that he needs to defy the laws of statistics and put up YPA numbers greater than the best QBs to ever play the game?

The kid threw the ball less than 20 times today. He simply does not have the chance to put up great yardage numbers.


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I would say Wilson is developing a repertoire with his receivers. Tate, Rice, Baldwin and TE Miller. We are growing an offense.
Its really nice to see a good QB develope right now. Wilson is getting really good in the red zone. Our backup QBs Tate and Rice are good too!;)
This wr group may be all we really need. I never was on the "our wideouts suck" bandwagon. On the other hand, the Jets abused our offensive line today a bit.

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So you would argue that he needs to defy the laws of statistics and put up YPA numbers greater than the best QBs to ever play the game?

The kid threw the ball less than 20 times today. He simply does not have the chance to put up great yardage numbers.


I'm saying right now he's closer to Alex Smith than Drew Brees.

That's not an insult, Smith took a team to the door step of a Super Bowl with the same type of roster that we have in place now.

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As far as kearly's post.. I wouldn't say Wilson is elite yet. He has a very solid completion percentage and TD/INT ratio (10 to 2 over the last five weeks) .. but he's been sub 200 yards in 7 of 10 starts. That's anything but elite. That's Alex Smith.

He's doing well though limiting mistakes and has shown marked improvement over his last five starts compared to his first five starts. But saying he's elite and Hall-of-Fame bound is extremely premature IMO.

It's been said, but what is his YPA? You are punishing him for a lack of passing attempts, which is just lame. the guy just averaged almost ten yards per attempt, which is elite.

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 Post subject: Re: Russell Wilson- the silently elite QB
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RW is a very determined rookie who is no one but RW. He may occasionally bear similarities to other past and current QBs, but he is carving out a unique identity that is RW only, and we are to sit and watch just how unique and special this is over the coming months and years.

Secondly, he would benefit greatly from a bolstered OL. This dearly needs to be the FO's number one priority.


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Funny how week 10 this guy is the QBOTF , when just 3 weeks ago or so I believe .net was up in arms and calling for Flynn......who Is Flynn anyways does he play for us? GO HAWKS


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RW is a very determined rookie who is no one but RW. He may occasionally bear similarities to other past and current QBs, but he is carving out a unique identity that is RW only, and we are to sit and watch just how unique and special this is over the coming months and years.



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Funny how week 10 this guy is the QBOTF , when just 3 weeks ago or so I believe .net was up in arms and calling for Flynn......who Is Flynn anyways does he play for us? GO HAWKS

You mean the guys calling for Flynn after every loss?


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As ridiculous as it sounds I can imagine Wilson in the Hall of Fame one day.

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He is going to bring us our first Super Bowl and be known as the best qb in franchise history.

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As far as kearly's post.. I wouldn't say Wilson is elite yet. He has a very solid completion percentage and TD/INT ratio (10 to 2 over the last five weeks) .. but he's been sub 200 yards in 7 of 10 starts. That's anything but elite. That's Alex Smith.

He's doing well though limiting mistakes and has shown marked improvement over his last five starts compared to his first five starts. But saying he's elite and Hall-of-Fame bound is extremely premature IMO.

It's been said, but what is his YPA? You are punishing him for a lack of passing attempts, which is just lame. the guy just averaged almost ten yards per attempt, which is elite.


He is upset that he was released 2 years ago and now benched in Tennessee for locker.

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My two cents is: In order for this team to become legitimately dangerous in the playoffs, the FO needs to be cognizant of the fact a bolstered OL is a much greater need than an improved WR corp.


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Elite? Uh, no (but possible one day).


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Russell Wilson has the best quarterback rating of all of them at home. By a lot. Better than either Manning, Brees, Ryan and Stafford. The lumps he took were early in the season and on the road. If that last road game against Detroit is any indicator, then yeah, he's silently elite and highly efficient.

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 Post subject: Re: Russell Wilson- the silently elite QB
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I have a friend who is not convinced, largely because his total passing yards are so low. Try to tell him that because of the phenomenal run game and defense he doesn't HAVE to! Plus, oh yeah...this is his rookie season.

At this point I believe his floor is Hasselbeck. FLOOR. And I think he'll do much more than 'ol Hass in yards when his career is done.

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