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The Radish
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Post subject: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:51 pm |
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Just watched the replay at .com and see that one of our players tried to undercut him on the sideline and he simply stepped over him, cut left and was gone. Put his arms out and tackled him there that run is over in about 5 yards. Breaks my heart the failing of our tackling most of the first half. 
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Recon_Hawk
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:00 pm |
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If I remember correctly, that player was KJ Wright who, I believe, suffered his concussion 1 or 2 plays before that (taking on the FB). I'm not sure if he was right in the head for that play.
No excuses for the rest of the team, though.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:03 pm |
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I assumed KJ got the concussion from that play as he reached out, AP cut back and KJ ended up taking out the persuing defender (Red I think) from the legs. I thought Red, in that mash up, may have kneed KJ in the head.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:03 pm |
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Recon_Hawk wrote: If I remember correctly, that player was KJ Wright who, I believe, suffered his concussion 1 or 2 plays before that (taking on the FB). I'm not sure if he was right in the head for that play.
No excuses for the rest of the team, though. Nope, it was Mike Morgan who REPLACED KJ the play before. Richard Sherman was actually in position to make a play and was moving towards the tackle, but he was held by the back of the jersey - couldn't believe it wasn't called at the time.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:17 pm |
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sturg78 wrote: I assumed KJ got the concussion from that play as he reached out, AP cut back and KJ ended up taking out the persuing defender (Red I think) from the legs. I thought Red, in that mash up, may have kneed KJ in the head. It's possible, but if you go back and rewatch the play before (first play of the game, I think), KJ takes on the FB in the hole and right after you can tell he's hurt or not feeling right. Clemons noticed it to and waved to the bench a couple of times pointing at KJ, but Wright waived them off. Tough SOB, KJ is. Chrome_Seahawk wrote: Recon_Hawk wrote: If I remember correctly, that player was KJ Wright who, I believe, suffered his concussion 1 or 2 plays before that (taking on the FB). I'm not sure if he was right in the head for that play.
No excuses for the rest of the team, though. Nope, it was Mike Morgan who REPLACED KJ the play before. Richard Sherman was actually in position to make a play and was moving towards the tackle, but he was held by the back of the jersey - couldn't believe it wasn't called at the time. My internet connection is shitty, so the video is blurry, but I'm 99.9% sure the link below shows KJ on the field. Wearing #50 playing SAM http://www.nfl.com/videos/minnesota-vik ... -74-yd-runAnd I agree with the Sherman hold that wasn't called. Refs blew that one.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:02 pm |
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Yeah, Wright was still in there. You can see him trailing the play. 
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The Radish
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:19 pm |
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 6:43 pm |
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someone held Sherman for sure.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:03 pm |
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The Radish wrote: My buddy Bill the blue thunder just pointed out to me I had put lose rather than loose. Boy did I deserve the crap he gave me. He can't wait to get after me cause he knows I prefer his lovely wife Debbie to him 37,000 to 1 Thanks Bill  lmao! I always tell Deb what you write about her, and she always reacts the same way... A "pffft", followed by 
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:04 pm |
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KJ got dinged by Red on the sideline for sure.. hip/knee to the head on that play on the sidelines..
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:28 pm |
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BlueThunder wrote: The Radish wrote: My buddy Bill the blue thunder just pointed out to me I had put lose rather than loose. Boy did I deserve the crap he gave me. He can't wait to get after me cause he knows I prefer his lovely wife Debbie to him 37,000 to 1 Thanks Bill  lmao! I always tell Deb what you write about her, and she always reacts the same way... A "pffft", followed by  I'm crushed, another of life's dreams snuffed by a woman. 
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:05 pm |
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I thought, when I first saw the play, and in most replays that I have seen, that I saw Sherman getting held on that play, and it looked to me like if he hadn't, he would have been in a good spot to nudge Peterson out of bounds.
Anyone else see this?
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:10 pm |
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Dismas wrote: I thought, when I first saw the play, and in most replays that I have seen, that I saw Sherman getting held on that play, and it looked to me like if he hadn't, he would have been in a good spot to nudge Peterson out of bounds.
Anyone else see this? Nonsense. Everyone knows that Peterson gained the yards he did because our run D sucks. That's been made crystal clear here in the last week.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:28 am |
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I thought Sherman slipped when I watched that in real-time on Sunday night. That's pretty blatant holding though, even if he hadn't got the tackle in or pushed him out of bounds, he'd have slowed him enough that he wouldn't have taken out Red and KJ with what was an admittedly sweet cutback
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:54 am |
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I think that play in particular was at the top of Pete's mind when he mentioned on the B&S show about having to get back to the fundamentals; proper footwork being one thing he mentioned specifically. That big play felt like it was dead in the water a couple of times but because of guys playing too aggressively and overpursuing ADP to the sideline he was able to make a sick cutback and use their aggressiveness against them (being the boss athleate he is).
With a guy like ADP, you really need to breakdown and let him come to you then wrap up with proper form and technique. You may cede an additional yard or three that way as he bowls over you (and you won't be on Sportscenter with a highlight reel de-cleater), but at least he'll be on the ground where he can't uncork a 70 yard run on your ass (and put you on Sportscenter in the bad way).
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:45 am |
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That sideline cut was unreal. Did he REALLY tear his ACL less than 12 months ago?
I don't think our tackling is poor...but it sure looked like it on that play. (aaaand a few others that game) AP is a special talent though, sometimes big players make big plays.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:28 am |
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Sometimes you tip your cap and realize that your opponent is that good. AP is THAT GOOD.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:07 pm |
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Yea, I saw someone getting held that play, and hollering at the refs about it, but I couldn't tell the number in real time.
There's usually holding on every play, but that one was in space and at the point of attack. Almost as bad as missing a dead ball delay of game penalty on a FG.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:09 pm |
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Alan Branch also got owned by that AP stiff arm. The play should have ended right there.
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Post subject: Re: I see why Peterson got loose on the 74 yard run Posted: Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:40 pm |
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The Radish wrote: Just watched the replay at .com and see that one of our players tried to undercut him on the sideline and he simply stepped over him, cut left and was gone. Put his arms out and tackled him there that run is over in about 5 yards. Breaks my heart the failing of our tackling most of the first half.  Yeah I agree, the tackling that game wasn't our D's usual, nor was the Dline play (Vikes Oline isn't necessarily swiss cheese of course, but we weren't playing on all cylinders this game). I would also agree though that if you don't fence up AP he's going to make you pay with YAC all day long. Shoulder pops and arm tackles are not gonna get that done. Rewatched the game again late-night for fun and know this D plays better than that. Also, I feel THIS was actually RW's best game to date (not in terms of numbers). Very cool to watch.
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