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 Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:35 am 
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What do you think of Russell Wilson running the read option?

I like it, and think of it as a great addition to what we do.

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I'll give you the standard .NET answer:

If it keeps working, it's brilliant!

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If it doesn't, it sucks and we should fire Bevell.

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 Post subject: Re: Read option?
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Did he even do it in college? At NC State he ran the west coast, and at Wisconsin it was pro-style.

Only reason Griffin and Newton do it is because their coaches want them comfortable.

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 Post subject: Re: Read option?
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Who here agrees that its just another weapon/asset for the offense that makes it more difficult on the other defenses to stop the man Russell #3 and beast mode.

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I like it. However it mainly just needs to be to keep the defense honest and busy thinking. Thankfully Russell seems to know quite well that it doesn't feel good to take on LB's and safeties. So as long as he takes it himself very infrequently I love it.

Just be careful with it...


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I hate option in the NFL. Too gimmicky, plus it's a great way for your undersized QB to get slammed over and over again.

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He hasn't gotten hit yet so... it is a valuable weapon I want to see more of...

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Why are you calling it read option in one string and WCO in another?

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Huh? I didn't call it wco?

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As long as e don't go to it too frequently and get Rusty shitkicked, I don't have a problem with it. Like a reverse, the Sidney Rice pass or the bubble screen to Golden Tate (which is the greatest play in all sports) it's just something else for the defense to have to keep an eye out for. Makes us dynamic and a little unpredictable and being upredictable makes defenses play on their heels (which makes them easier for Marshawn to run over). Nothing wrong with that.

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 Post subject: Re: Read option?
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Agree

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Did he even do it in college? At NC State he ran the west coast, and at Wisconsin it was pro-style.

Only reason Griffin and Newton do it is because their coaches want them comfortable.


He did do it at NC State his first season and got injured at least twice. Once early and the second time in the bowl game when we were dominating rutgers in the first half and then the second without RW we laid an egg and lost the game.

I don't like anything gimmicky that continously puts the QB in harms way. Once in awhile - sure fine. Several times a game - don't like it. I was fine with the first scramble / run in the Minnesota game I was fine with. Mainly cause I turned around and said they should run RW here and boom they did :)


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I have an even better idea: Why don't we just pull all the linemen from the game except Unger and have Russell Wilson run straight up the gut. Be a much more effective way to get our QB killed if we're going that route.

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I have an even better idea: Why don't we just pull all the linemen from the game except Unger and have Russell Wilson run straight up the gut. Be a much more effective way to get our QB killed if we're going that route.


And have Kam Chancellor go get Jeron Johnson some apple pies, cuz he's clearly playing like a rook...

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Sarlacc83 wrote:
I have an even better idea: Why don't we just pull all the linemen from the game except Unger and have Russell Wilson run straight up the gut. Be a much more effective way to get our QB killed if we're going that route.


I think the read option is fine, and effective, if used sparingly. Wilson didnt even take a hit on the play and it picked up positive yardage. I'm all for anything that gains yards and like others have said, its just one more think defensive coordinators have to think about and prepare for.

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Old Fart Alert!!

When I see Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and other elite QBs doing it, then I am fine with it. Until then, it is a gimmick and needs to be shelved.

End Old Fart Alert. And now get off my lawn you darn whippersnappers!

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drdiags wrote:
Old Fart Alert!!

When I see Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and other elite QBs doing it, then I am fine with it. Until then, it is a gimmick and needs to be shelved.

End Old Fart Alert. And now get off my lawn you darn whippersnappers!


Just to be clear, are you saying Tim Tebow is NOT elite?

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JSeahawks wrote:

Just to be clear, are you saying Tim Tebow is NOT elite?


Well, I wouldn't go so far as to say that. It is Tebow you understand. Totally different category. I mean elite doesn't even scratch the surface with this guy.

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Yah uh... who said we want tom Brady or any old fart elite qb. Besides Aaron Rodgers could probably run this kinda thing and he is elite from the eyes of most. Point is Russell isn't like any of those quarterbacks and neither is the offences they play in.

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Maybe if we just ignore this guy, he'll go away? I'm starting to think he gets off on this sort of thing.

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drdiags wrote:
Old Fart Alert!!

When I see Tom Brady, Peyton Manning and other elite QBs doing it, then I am fine with it. Until then, it is a gimmick and needs to be shelved.

End Old Fart Alert. And now get off my lawn you darn whippersnappers!


Yah uh... who said we want tom Brady or any old fart elite qb. Besides Aaron Rodgers could probably run this kinda thing and he is elite from the eyes of most. Point is Russell isn't like any of those quarterbacks and neither is the offences they play in.

That's the point of having Russell #3, because he is unconventional. Like our team.

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Yah uh... who said we want tom Brady or any old fart elite qb. Besides Aaron Rodgers could probably run this kinda thing and he is elite from the eyes of most. Point is Russell isn't like any of those quarterbacks and neither is the offences they play in.


Sustainability. Is Wilson and others going to base their game around something that may not be sustainable. I am sure many would have reached nirvana if the Seahawks had gotten Old Fart Peyton Manning to play here. So I am not sure you speak for "we" but more for "I".

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I'm pretty sure the read option will NOT become the "staple" of our offense in any way.

They'll use it once in a while, to keep Ds honest. We'll probably see it a few times over the next couple of weeks, and we'll do something different out of it all of the times we use it. That way, DCs won't know what to expect when we use it. Meanwhile, Marshawn and Turbs will be steamrolling them.

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I start to get an upset stomach every time is see it please don't use it and put it up really high on the shelf Bevell so you will forget about it..


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From what I can tell by watching the tape, we don't run it as a true option. I think most of the time it is pre-determined. If not, Wilson did a terrible job, because Jared Allen crashed all game long. If they were running it like college teams do, Wilson would have kept the ball just about every time. I think we just run it to give Lynch carries out of the shotgun, and then Wilson carries out the fake take a defender with him. The coaches and Wilson keep an eye on it, and if the DE keeps crashing, they know that at some point later in the game, they've got a "keep" up their sleeve, and Wilson will get a free running lane whenever they want to use it.

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but if use option won't the man Russell #3 get BOOM like legion?

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As long as Wilson slides while running it, I am fine with it. If he starts taking hits while running it, then it's out.


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I don't expect Wilson to get hit very often when he takes off on a run. He appears to be a very smart and safe runner. He seems to always slide at just the right time.


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