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 Post subject: PFF race for rookie of the year
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Hell yeah. Russell Wilson right behind the top spot, and gaining steam.


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Also, they have Irvin and Wagner in their 'ones to watch' list. Amazing.

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It's looking more and more like this Hawks draft class may be the best overall in our history. Time will tell.


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Notice that Coples is not even mentioned...?

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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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Depends how well Russell #3 plays because luck and rg3 are a bit overrated if u ask me (compared to Russell #3).

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I have watched Luck play, the man is going be amazing! He has all the skills and only ONE weapon right now with a terrible run game. Oh and he just smoked a pretty good Phin D for over 400 yards and a rookie record... so I think he is the real deal. RG3 I am not sold on scrambling QB's in the NFL as they seem be injury prone.


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Luck is unreal, in fact, looks even better than I thought he would at this point.

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Very true, but I've seen luck do the stupid things at times Russell isn't doing. So... Russell Wilson is more developed and nfl ready qb, meaning he is the quarterback with the best chance to win a superbowl.

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Very true, but I've seen luck do the stupid things at times Russell isn't doing. So... Russell Wilson is more developed and nfl ready qb, meaning he is the quarterback with the best chance to win a superbowl.



Hmm but Wilson asked to do a LOT less than Luck. I mean lets be subjective here:

Who has the Better D? Wilson

Who has the Better WR? Wilson

Who has the better running game? Wilson

Wilson has a more SB ready team. You put Luck on the Seahawks I say it right now you have 1 loss ONLY.


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I think Luck is the real deal. I like the play of all the rookie QBs, even Weeden. Given a choice I would take Luck. I think he would survive a coaching change because of his skills. Wilson is evolving in the Seahawks offense and expectations are he will only get better. The question is would a change in the coaching staff cause him not to be valued as much by the next regime? Considering the backlash from the NFL conventional thinking folks, Wilson's skillset may not be as appreciated in another system.

Pure speculation on my part, just an idea on how circumstances can make or break a player's career.

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Bobby Wagner, MLB, SEA: Didn’t distinguish himself against the Vikings.


What? So 10+ tackles and a sack "isn't distinguishing himself."

Sure he's making some mistakes, but so did Lofa.


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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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PatsFanNH wrote:
skater18000 wrote:
Very true, but I've seen luck do the stupid things at times Russell isn't doing. So... Russell Wilson is more developed and nfl ready qb, meaning he is the quarterback with the best chance to win a superbowl.



Hmm but Wilson asked to do a LOT less than Luck. I mean lets be subjective here:

Who has the Better D? Wilson

Who has the Better WR? Wilson

Who has the better running game? Wilson

Wilson has a more SB ready team. You put Luck on the Seahawks I say it right now you have 1 loss ONLY.



I don't know about better WR's. Luck is throwing to a Reggie Wayne. But I agree with your point. Luck is carrying his team more and throwing it more. What he's doing is extremely impressive.


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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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LOL at citing an article where Andrew Luck is EIGHTH and behind two offensive linemen.

Come on.

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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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jlwaters,

I meant WR's in the whole. outside of Wayne, he has no one to throw toand IMO Rice> Wayne RIGHT NOW he has youth on his side lol


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LOL at citing an article where Andrew Luck is EIGHTH and behind two offensive linemen.

Come on.


We get it, you don't like Russell Wilson.

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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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Peach,

I like Wilson, I just think its not fair to Luck et al to say since the hawks as a team won x games he must be better.. just silly IMO...


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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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We get it, you don't like Russell Wilson.


:lol:

Funny.

But seriously, this is the most ridiculous article I have read in a long time. Andrew Luck won this award weeks ago. Move on.

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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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ROY right now? Luck.

ROY by the end of the season? If he keeps getting better at the pace he has been, then it should be Wilson.


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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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What is Luck doing better than Wilson exactly?
He's playing for a worse team than him, granted. I mean it's not like he's got a 3-time All-Pro to throw to like Wilson does. Wait...


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 Post subject: Re: PFF race for rookie of the year
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What is Luck doing better than Wilson exactly?
He's playing for a worse team than him, granted. I mean it's not like he's got a 3-time All-Pro to throw to like Wilson does. Wait...

he's winning games with a team that last year won 2 games


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