cboom wrote:Wilson is the worst QB I have seen as a Hawks fan. And I have been around long enough to see them all.
NJHawksFan wrote:Isn't Leon one of the top returners as far as yards go? Yeah he hasn't taken one to the house yet, but his blocking hasn't been great either. I recall him having a huge impact at the end of the Patriots game returning a punt to midfield.
SoCalHawk wrote:NJHawksFan wrote:Isn't Leon one of the top returners as far as yards go? Yeah he hasn't taken one to the house yet, but his blocking hasn't been great either. I recall him having a huge impact at the end of the Patriots game returning a punt to midfield.
This is a great question, anyone have access to yards per return statistics?
I feel much more strongly that Breno should be replaced than Washington, but his agility, cut back ability, and overall speed seems to be diminishing each game. He has also had costly fumbles, although he is typically reliable. Things he brings to the table are great vision, toughness, and leadership. I would advocate for grooming someone behind him. Identify a guy in the draft with crazy athleticism and have him learn from the best for a year.
Largent80 wrote:I hate BG's penalties, but to his credit he has limited them in the last few games, and as was pointed out earlier, he will more than likely get better.
Leon gives that dimension of the possibility of a big play every time he touches the ball.
Bottom line is I like both of them.
Wide receiver is the top priority in my estimation.
kearly wrote:I think Breno is going to be here for a while. Penalties aside, he's the best RT we've had in several years. Let us not forget guys like Kyle Williams or Sean Locklear. Breno is replaceable, but not a player that is easy to replace. I do expect that Seattle will draft a tackle prospect somewhere in the draft: if nothing else because this team lacks competition there. But for 2013 and 2014 I expect him to continue starting. And really, it's not such a bad thing. He's had some tough games, but he's had some dominant looking games too.
Leon Washington started the year strong, but has slumped lately. The team should begin their search for his replacement this offseason, and if they don't find one I'd be fine with giving Leon one more year. But if we get a guy like Tavon Austin, I'd probably let Leon go and see what Austin can offer right away. To be fair, Leon could just be in a slump right now. I haven't seen any massive red flags yet that suggest his speed is gone.
HawksFTW wrote:Get rid of Leon or Breno? Are you crazy?
SoCalHawk wrote:Leon Washington is on his way out. Washed up. He has had plenty of chances, and in this NFL era where good teams have electric kick returners he doesn't cut it anymore. Sure, he has been stellar throughout his career, but he is about done. We need to draft that young KR stud, or identify him on the roster, and plan for the future.
I will never buy that Breno Giacomini is a starting caliber RT. He is responsible for the majority of negative runs by Lynch, and how many more times can we watch him get bull rushed and stumble his way directly back toward Wilson? He has no strength, very little technique, and his nastiness costs us in penalties. He has consistently looked like a turnstile over the course of the season. Against good rushers you almost feel bad for him, the way he gets tossed back. Its disgusting to watch and I hope we address it.
I believe that addressing these two spots, in addition to WR, we will be in great shape.
joeshaney wrote:Two positions I'd rather we updrade is Leroy Hill and Anthony McCoy.
If we had a playmaking TE and a more another linebacker who was versatile enough to play the run well and provide a bit of 3rd down pass rushing when needed we'd be improved much more than replacing Breno and Leon.
kearly wrote:Leon Washington started the year strong, but has slumped lately. The team should begin their search for his replacement this offseason, and if they don't find one I'd be fine with giving Leon one more year. But if we get a guy like Tavon Austin, I'd probably let Leon go and see what Austin can offer right away. To be fair, Leon could just be in a slump right now. I haven't seen any massive red flags yet that suggest his speed is gone.
bigcc wrote:Leon is 7th in kick return average, and 13th in PR average
Explain to me how that makes him someone to replace?
As for Breno, I do think we need to draft a replacement either this year or the next..... but to ride the pine and learn our system while Breno holds the spot for a couple more
IMO a 2nd TE and another outside WR are what we need..... while Tate is stepping up, I like him subbing in for Rice/X receiver and in on 4 WR sets more than starting for us
Jerhawk wrote:It's frustrating watching Leon take the ball out at least five yards deep in the endzone and get stopped before the fifteen. No need to hurt Russell and the offensive by making their drive five yards longer.
Last week against the Vikings, he returned a punt while standing in the endzone. Awful. If he wouldn't have taken that back to the twenty where he got tackled, I wouldn't have been surprised to see Tate returning punts.
loafoftatupu wrote:I can see making additions to the OLine every year, until they are solid with depth. It is the key to so much offensively and we know how quickly an injured line can be exposed. That is why I think that one should be drafted in the first 3 rounds every year along with one longshot in the later rounds.
LW?? The guy is pretty versatile, but I think he is looking for the home-run on every play. Even the wife can't stand watching him run backwards looking for a hole. Last week, he cost a few yards doing that and then the PR from the end zone? He was lucky to make it to the 21 that time.
I say let Leon return for the season and if still hoses it, then look at Tate. Tate is a fantastic runner at times, tough and makes people miss. Leon works hard in the few carries he sees and is a good receiver out of the backfield, I am just not ready to call him washed up yet.