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 Post subject: 2 things I hate about our team
 Post Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:54 am 
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1. Our receivers are very haphazard about getting past the 1st down marker before turning to catch the ball and wind up short. Quality receivers like Largent, JJ or Brandon Stokely don't make mistakes like that.

2a. This has been mentioned before. Our receivers over the middle are hit almost as soon as they catch the ball so there is no YAC. (so if they aren't past the 1st marker we are 3 and out,,,,again.

2b. This also has been mentioned before. THEIR receivers catch the ball over the middle and have 5-7 yards free field to get up to speed before any of our defenders touch them. This has got to be addressed if we are ever to advance.

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I would add the whole running backwards trying to breakoff a big gain instead of just making a decisive turn up field. That is what got Tate hurt in the final Preseason game and he, Leon and McCoy have been guilty of it in the regular season.

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The lack of YAC is a major issue. We used to KILL it in that area.

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no yards after catch because they are not getting any seperation... this was a problem in the pre season and has carried over. i would guess coaching needs to work on technique off the line and running routes better, sharper.

1) i would liek to add, this conservative play calling was fine first few games, time to open it up, on both sides of the ball, we have play makers on both sides, get them in situations to make plays...

2) stop having this play not to lose mentality and start stepping on necks when you get them down or the game is close.

3) play every down like your season depends on it, tired of players taking plays off, tate, giacomini, rice

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 Post subject: Re: 2 things I hate about our team
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The Radish wrote:
1. Our receivers are very haphazard about getting past the 1st down marker before turning to catch the ball and wind up short. Quality receivers like Largent, JJ or Brandon Stokely don't make mistakes like that.

2a. This has been mentioned before. Our receivers over the middle are hit almost as soon as they catch the ball so there is no YAC. (so if they aren't past the 1st marker we are 3 and out,,,,again.

2b. This also has been mentioned before. THEIR receivers catch the ball over the middle and have 5-7 yards free field to get up to speed before any of our defenders touch them. This has got to be addressed if we are ever to advance.

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The Radish wrote:
1. Our receivers are very haphazard about getting past the 1st down marker before turning to catch the ball and wind up short. Quality receivers like Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, JJ or Brandon Stokely don't make mistakes like that.

2a. This has been mentioned before. Our receivers over the middle are hit almost as soon as they catch the ball so there is no YAC. (so if they aren't past the 1st marker we are 3 and out,,,,again.

2b. This also has been mentioned before. THEIR receivers catch the ball over the middle and have 5-7 yards free field to get up to speed before any of our defenders touch them. This has got to be addressed if we are ever to advance.

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Rice rarely stays on his feet long enough to get YAC when he catches the ball...


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@ glove hahaha.......good one.


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The Radish wrote:
Quality receivers like Largent, JJ or Brandon Stokely don't make mistakes like that.


So you're saying we need to sign Jordan Shipley.


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2 words....

ZONE DEFENSE

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 Post subject: Re: 2 things I hate about our team
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I was expecting this thread to say our 3rd down defense and red zone offense...

Seriously, is there a worst combo of weaknesses out there?


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The Radish wrote:
1. Our receivers are very haphazard about getting past the 1st down marker before turning to catch the ball and wind up short. Quality receivers like Largent, JJ or Brandon Stokely don't make mistakes like that.

2a. This has been mentioned before. Our receivers over the middle are hit almost as soon as they catch the ball so there is no YAC. (so if they aren't past the 1st marker we are 3 and out,,,,again.

2b. This also has been mentioned before. THEIR receivers catch the ball over the middle and have 5-7 yards free field to get up to speed before any of our defenders touch them. This has got to be addressed if we are ever to advance.

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A lot of this has to do with poor down field blocking by our receivers and tight ends. Detroit on the other hand had excellent down field blocking and that was a huge factor in them winning the game.

It's not so much the dink and dunk that was killing us, it was the opponents ability to prevent tacklers from getting a clean shot at the receiver.

Down field blocking, one of the most under rated abilities in this game. Tate, learn how to do it damnit! You are terrible at that right now.

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Which is kind of weird about the wr blocking aspect because last year, one thing that Rice did impress me with was his blocking. I haven't seen that this year from him.


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 Post subject: Re: 2 things I hate about our team
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2 words....

ZONE DEFENSE

Wish I could have made the letters larger.



You forgot a couple of words Rob.

TWO DEEP ZONE DEFENSE,,,,,prevents you from winning.

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I want to see the WR screen removed from the playbook ...

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 Post subject: Re: 2 things I hate about our team
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The Radish wrote:
1. Our receivers are very haphazard about getting past the 1st down marker before turning to catch the ball and wind up short. Quality receivers like Largent, JJ or Brandon Stokely don't make mistakes like that.

2a. This has been mentioned before. Our receivers over the middle are hit almost as soon as they catch the ball so there is no YAC. (so if they aren't past the 1st marker we are 3 and out,,,,again.

2b. This also has been mentioned before. THEIR receivers catch the ball over the middle and have 5-7 yards free field to get up to speed before any of our defenders touch them. This has got to be addressed if we are ever to advance.

:141847_bnono:


That's the risk of playing press coverage in man.

Right now we're 10th in pass efficiency defense and teams are throwing the ball on us 64% of the time(5th highest in the NFL). I think we should chalk up some of the struggles we had to the quality of QB's we've played so far, and the number of times the ball gets thrown on us. All in all, the pass D has been pretty good. Not elite, but good.


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So what you are really saying Radish is you hate the receiving corps for performing at a poor level, and the defense for giving up the easy yardage. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: 2 things I hate about our team
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So what you are really saying Radish is you hate the receiving corps for performing at a poor level, and the defense for giving up the easy yardage. ;)


Damn! looking back I guess it does say that. lol

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1. Time management near the ending the first half
2. Play calling at the ending of the first half


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Why on earth did we ever let Brandon Stokely go. Looking really stupid right now.

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Why on earth did we ever let Brandon Stokely go. Looking really stupid right now.



My feelings exactly. The Seahawks are on a "youth" movement and thought Stokely was about finished.

Yeah, he looks about finished in Denver where Manning knows a go to guy when he sees one. He makes me think of a smaller Jurivicious, "see the ball, catch the ball".

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