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 Post Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:58 pm 
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You can't ask for anything more than that of a playoff contender. If Arizona loses tonight and falls to 4-4, then the only two teams ahead of us for the Wildcard spot are Minnesota and Green Bay. We can't catch Green Bay without help, so we don't control whether we get the 5th seed, but the 6th seed will become ours to lose should SF beat Arizona tonight. Then it's in our own hands to beat Minnesota and Arizona, which would put us in the drivers seat for the 6th seed.

If Az wins tonight and we beat them later, we end up tied with them, but they may well hold a tiebreaker come season's end so that isn't good enough to control our own destiny. It does, however, leave us a slim shot at the division.

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Arizona is not going to win out, so I would rather them take down the 49ers and keep the 49ers from building a bigger cushion for the division lead.

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Go, 49ers.

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So what? I still want the division as long as we are playing make-believe. Go CARDS!

AZ and Minnesota will both freefall regardless of what occurs tonight.

(And it is 'cue' you high-school dropout)

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Go, meteor.

We win the NFC West by default because the Rams are still barely an NFL team.

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Arizona is not going to win out, so I would rather them take down the 49ers and keep the 49ers from building a bigger cushion for the division lead.

I just don't see it in the cards for Seattle to win the Division this year - but I am hoping.

5th or 6th Seed is more likely.

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I'm leaning towards the Cards tonight.
It simply gives us more options if they win.

When it comes down to it, we need to do our work and it doesn't matter what anyone else does.
Its time to start beating up teams that aren't ridiculous on either side of the ball.
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So what? I still want the division as long as we are playing make-believe. Go CARDS!

AZ and Minnesota will both freefall regardless of what occurs tonight.

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So what? I still want the division as long as we are playing make-believe. Go CARDS!

AZ and Minnesota will both freefall regardless of what occurs tonight.

(And it is 'cue' you high-school dropout)


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To hell with this; go Cardinals! The Cards have a tougher second half of the season than the 49ers, and the 49ers are better than them. I doubt the Cardinals win the division, but possibly; we need the 49ers to be kept in check so we can try and go on a run with our last 8 games to try and win the division.

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i'm sorry, rooting on the niners is like kissing my sister, i just can't do it... i hate their guts and i hate their fans more... and i hate their coach on a much higher level that i can't talk about in this forum... my joy is the niner fans misery and pain. GO Cards!!! i'll take my chances down the road... this is from my heart not my head....

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Looks like our division is going to beat itself up this year lol.

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It's kind of a win-win either way.

Cards win, we have a better shot at the division. But then again, so do they, and they also beat us, so they would hold a tiebreaker in divisional record. This could also lead to us and the Niners meeting for the divisional title in December, which would be cool as hell.

49ers win, and we have a better shot at the wildcard. But, the Niners then get a 2 game lead on us that we probably won't pick up.

I'd have to say, as mediocre as we've been, as inconsistent as both sides of the ball can be, I'd have to root for AZ. It's the most likely way we get into the playoffs


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Our schedule is a cake walk compared to ARIZONA, MINN, GB, SF, DET, and TB......They all play each other and have rather difficult schedules compared to ours. We get 5 home games over the next 8. 6-2 gets it done.....The next 2 games are must win IMO.


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Go, meteor.

We win the NFC West by default because the Rams are still barely an NFL team.



Barely a team that beat ours apparently.

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Cardinals may only win 2-3 more games the rest of this season, at best. The "fun" part of their schedule lurks.

They have already lost 3 straight. Tonight would be 4...then next it's @ Green Bay and @ Atlanta. That should be a 6-game losing streak.

Freefall time for the little red birds.

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I'd still rather the Cards win. I'm on the "Keep SF in check a bit" team.

Besides, I can't root for the wild card as a first option, no matter how 'logical' it might sound. First goal is always to win the division. If the Niners win, that becomes much harder and less likely, though they too, have some tough games ahead of them.

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I'm not worried about getting into the playoffs, i'm just not seeing the point if we aren't sure who we are. Are we a NYG type team (in the making) that can suck but get into the playoffs and superbowl it? or are we a glad to be here one and done team. That new orleans game was thrilling and all, but minus the beast quake and i'd looooooove to have that pic right now for a big name receiver (the only missing ingrdient).

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We do control our own destiny. We are the only team in the league that wound up playing it's 1st 3 division games on the road, 1 of them a Thurs nite game on a short week.

In the NFC, we are basically ahead of the game as, all teams in the North have 5 division games remaining. Beat yourselves up guys. The East is a dogs stew, only team to emerge at the end being the Giants, and we all know how well they do at home. South, Falcs basically run away with it as the Aint's are in one hell of a hole, and TB despite moxie is just not there yet.

Anyone else at least kinda/sorts smell there could be 3 NFC West teams in at the end?


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I'm not worried about getting into the playoffs, i'm just not seeing the point if we aren't sure who we are. Are we a NYG type team (in the making) that can suck but get into the playoffs and superbowl it? or are we a glad to be here one and done team. That new orleans game was thrilling and all, but minus the beast quake and i'd looooooove to have that pic right now for a big name receiver (the only missing ingrdient).



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I'm not worried about getting into the playoffs, i'm just not seeing the point if we aren't sure who we are. Are we a NYG type team (in the making) that can suck but get into the playoffs and superbowl it? or are we a glad to be here one and done team. That new orleans game was thrilling and all, but minus the beast quake and i'd looooooove to have that pic right now for a big name receiver (the only missing ingrdient).

Still wishing we had tanked 2 DAMN YEARS AGO? You are embarrassing.

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I'm not worried about getting into the playoffs, i'm just not seeing the point if we aren't sure who we are. Are we a NYG type team (in the making) that can suck but get into the playoffs and superbowl it? or are we a glad to be here one and done team. That new orleans game was thrilling and all, but minus the beast quake and i'd looooooove to have that pic right now for a big name receiver (the only missing ingrdient).


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You wanna crow San Fran's asses then crown them, pehawk!!!!

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I'm not saying root for anyone. That's totally up to each of you. I'm just saying these are the playoff facts. I left one thing off, however, that didn't occur to me until just now. Detroit. They are 3-4. So if they win on our bye week and stay tied with us, they hold the tiebreaker. So as of right now, no matter what happens to Az or SF, we don't quite yet control our own destiny until we pull ahead of Detroit.

The point of all this is that with so many jumping off ledges and what not, this season is not over by any means. I hear them on KJR saying 10-6 might not get it done. Well, yes, it actually WILL get it done. So long as we beat Minnie and Az along the way and Detroit doesn't finish 10-6 too.

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We don't need to worry abou AZ anymore. They are done. This MNF drubbing is making the The cards Turn into the Bramiefs.

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Arizona is NOT winning tonight.....so you can get that out yo heads.....muuaaaahahaha!!! WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)

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Arizona is NOT winning tonight.....so you can get that out yo heads.....muuaaaahahaha!!! WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)


Why are you guys always here when you win? But after you get your ass kicked by the Giants there's not a single 49er fan post on this board for a week?

Oh, and to answer your question: Atlanta, Chicago and Houston.

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Arizona is NOT winning tonight.....so you can get that out yo heads.....muuaaaahahaha!!! WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)


Why are you guys always here when you win? But after you get your ass kicked by the Giants there's not a single 49er fan post on this board for a week?

Oh, and to answer your question: Atlanta, Chicago and Houston.



thats a lie.. Dig it up please.. i dare you.. i Double Dog dare u please sir.. I was here after we lost tot he vikes and i was here after we got spanked by the G Men... but i have also been here after every win... i always say.. "Im here when we win and im here when we lose"..


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Arizona is NOT winning tonight.....so you can get that out yo heads.....muuaaaahahaha!!! WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)


Why are you guys always here when you win? But after you get your ass kicked by the Giants there's not a single 49er fan post on this board for a week?

Oh, and to answer your question: Atlanta, Chicago and Houston.



thats a lie.. Dig it up please.. i dare you.. i Double Dog dare u please sir.. I was here after we lost tot he vikes and i was here after we got spanked by the G Men... but i have also been here after every win... i always say.. "Im here when we win and im here when we lose"..


And we are all so thankful for that! :pukeface:

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Arizona is NOT winning tonight.....so you can get that out yo heads.....muuaaaahahaha!!! WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)


Why are you guys always here when you win? But after you get your ass kicked by the Giants there's not a single 49er fan post on this board for a week?

Oh, and to answer your question: Atlanta, Chicago and Houston.



thats a lie.. Dig it up please.. i dare you.. i Double Dog dare u please sir.. I was here after we lost tot he vikes and i was here after we got spanked by the G Men... but i have also been here after every win... i always say.. "Im here when we win and im here when we lose"..


Ok, I take it back. Since you double dog dared me i looked at your post history. You did post after you lost to Minnesota, mostly to tell us that the TAte TD shouldnt have counted. And you did have 1 post between your loss to the Giants and playing us that thursday. I stand corrected. I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part.

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[quote="80849er4life"]Arizona is NOT winning tonight.....so you can get that out yo heads.....muuaaaahahaha!!! WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)


Why are you guys always here when you win? But after you get your ass kicked by the Giants there's not a single 49er fan post on this board for a week?

Oh, and to answer your question: Atlanta, Chicago and Houston.



thats a lie.. Dig it up please.. i dare you.. i Double Dog dare u please sir.. I was here after we lost tot he vikes and i was here after we got spanked by the G Men... but i have also been here after every win... i always say.. "Im here when we win and im here when we lose"..


Ok, I take it back. Since you double dog dared me i looked at your post history. You did post after you lost to Minnesota, mostly to tell us that the TAte TD shouldnt have counted. And you did have 1 post between your loss to the Giants and playing us that thursday. I stand corrected. I guess it was just wishful thinking on my part.[/quote]

Yes but safe to say not nearly as active.

I wish they would just go bye bye.

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You can't ask for anything more than that of a playoff contender. If Arizona loses tonight and falls to 4-4, then the only two teams ahead of us for the Wildcard spot are Minnesota and Green Bay. We can't catch Green Bay without help, so we don't control whether we get the 5th seed, but the 6th seed will become ours to lose should SF beat Arizona tonight. Then it's in our own hands to beat Minnesota and Arizona, which would put us in the drivers seat for the 6th seed.

If Az wins tonight and we beat them later, we end up tied with them, but they may well hold a tiebreaker come season's end so that isn't good enough to control our own destiny. It does, however, leave us a slim shot at the division.


Dayum, glad I didn't see this earlier. I spent the game rooting for Arizona. Had I known this, I would have been rooting for SF, They would have lost for sure.


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I'm not worried about getting into the playoffs, i'm just not seeing the point if we aren't sure who we are. Are we a NYG type team (in the making) that can suck but get into the playoffs and superbowl it? or are we a glad to be here one and done team. That new orleans game was thrilling and all, but minus the beast quake and i'd looooooove to have that pic right now for a big name receiver (the only missing ingrdient).

Still wishing we had tanked 2 DAMN YEARS AGO? You are embarrassing.



No one said "wishing we tanked" saying after it was all said and done it didn't put us any further towards being a better team. A lot of the key guys from that team (save lynch) aren't even here. It was a great win and I loved every minute of it (as stated in the original quote) but it ultimately ended up being meaningless since we went in a different direction.

I'm not worried about the playoffs, either we miss it and we deserve to or we slip in some how and we deserve that to. not worried, im more worried about what we are gonna do when we get there. I don't wanna see a team get to the playoffs that has to rely on road wins to get to the superbowl that has proven so far that it can't win on the road. do you?

Do you want to see a team that can't kill a wounded lions team in the playoffs on national tv against a rested and angry Aaron Rogers? you want to be able to say your team beat out the cardinals that bad for a nationally televised sacrifice to one of these east coast teams we are not ready for on the road???

its not like these problems are new, this defense (While great) has had 3rd down problems since day one it just never manifested itself in a way that was too detrimental yet, now it has.

i think this fanbase has elevated beyond being "happy to be in the playoffs" this isn't 2003 get your mind right, this is a five time NFC west champion, 11 time playoff appearing, recent superbowl participating team. i'm not worrying about "getting into" the playoffs, that was my point.

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Technically I think it's impossible for anyone to control his or her own destiny--it wouldn't be destiny then.

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John Locke would have something to say about this.

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 Post subject: Re: If Arizona loses tonight we control our own destiny
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sc85sis wrote:
Technically I think it's impossible for anyone to control his or her own destiny--it wouldn't be destiny then.

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I am destined to control my own destiny.

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 Post subject: Re: If Arizona loses tonight we control our own destiny
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JSeahawks...your a good man lol.. im not trying to troll.. i mean if were trying to do that i would have never came back after those 2 losses....fair is fair and right is right.. if i talk after wins ill be here to take u guys shit after losses


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 Post subject: Re: If Arizona loses tonight we control our own destiny
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WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)

God, that is the stupidest mantra in the NFL


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 Post subject: Re: If Arizona loses tonight we control our own destiny
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80849er4life wrote:
Arizona is NOT winning tonight.....so you can get that out yo heads.....muuaaaahahaha!!! WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)


Why are you guys always here when you win? But after you get your ass kicked by the Giants there's not a single 49er fan post on this board for a week?

Oh, and to answer your question: Atlanta, Chicago and Houston.


And seeing as the Giants won the Super Bowl last year, I think they count as well.

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 Post subject: Re: If Arizona loses tonight we control our own destiny
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Treefiddy wrote:
80849er4life wrote:
WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)

God, that is the stupidest mantra in the NFL



dont hate... u know u would love it if u guys had a catch phrase... is it cheesy.. yes but it is our own and something Harbaugh uses to bring this team together and guess what.. it works


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 Post subject: Re: If Arizona loses tonight we control our own destiny
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Treefiddy wrote:
80849er4life wrote:
WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)

God, that is the stupidest mantra in the NFL



dont hate... u know u would love it if u guys had a catch phrase... is it cheesy.. yes but it is our own and something Harbaugh uses to bring this team together and guess what.. it works


We do have a mantra. It's Marshawn Lynch leaping backwards holding his groin.

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 Post subject: Re: If Arizona loses tonight we control our own destiny
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VaSfan4life wrote:
Treefiddy wrote:
80849er4life wrote:
WHOS GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!!!! NOBODY!!!!!! 8)

God, that is the stupidest mantra in the NFL



dont hate... u know u would love it if u guys had a catch phrase... is it cheesy.. yes but it is our own and something Harbaugh uses to bring this team together and guess what.. it works


Sure, a good catch phrase is great. That "who's got it better than us" is just empty, forced rhetoric. Harbaugh is corny.

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