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    The Seahawks flew back to their nest in Seattle this past weekend nursing some singed feathers following a frustrating loss in San Francisco. Despite a lackluster performance in the City by the Bay though, the Seahawks have actually fared really well over their first 7 games. They have run the gambit against some of the toughest teams in all of football and now find themselves pitted against a Lions team that in many ways is looking for answers.

    Can the Seahawks get in a Rhythm in MoTown … or will they be singing the Blues? Here is an in-depth look in to that question and 5 Keys to a Seahawks victory on Sunday …

    Keep On Siphoning the Gas …
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    Last season, Matt Stafford and the Lions looked like a team poised to make a serious run in 2012. The team finished 10-6, as Stafford racked up an impressive 4,814 yards passing (4th in the NFL) … and 41 TD’s through the air (3rd best in the league).

    Oh how times have changed though. While the Lions are on pace to equal their passing yardage totals from a year ago … their aerial attack from a year ago looks a lot more like an airline strike. The Lions come in to this game #1 in Pass Attempts per Game (46.2), so there is very little mystery about what they’re going to do – throw the ball. But can they SCORE through the air? That has been the lingering question for them all season long.

    Matt Stafford has thrown for only 7 touchdowns this year … and has been intercepted just about as often (he has 6 picks). Even Russell Wilson has been more productive than that … which is why Lions fans and NFL experts alike are befuddled and starting to ask questions as to just what in the name of Bobby “Night Train” Layne is going on here. After the Eagles game, Lions receiver Calvin Johnson was asked about his team’s scoring drought. He had this to say …

    "I'm not really (frustrated)," he said. "If I was dropping touchdown passes, then, yeah. But coverages have been dictating a lot of things down there. The touchdowns will come. We are still moving the ball and that's all that matters."

    Source:
    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/calvin-johnson-discusses-lack-touchdowns-145604861--nfl.html

    Coming in to this game, the Lions are scoring an average of only 22.2 Points/Game (22nd in the NFL). That’s because while they may march up and down the field … actually punching the ball in to the End Zone has been an issue. The Lions are scoring TD’s only 47.83% of the time they get in the Red Zone (19th in the NFL). While they’re been nowhere near as bad as the Seahawks in the Red Zone (Seattle has scored TD’s only 33.33% of the time – 2nd to last in the league) … the futility of the offense is noteworthy and a huge concern is you’re a Lions fan.

    The Lions are converting only 33.33% of their 3rd Downs (23rd in the league. Seattle is 25th with 32.58%).

    In fact, the Lions have only 26 First Downs through their first 6 games … only 5 teams in the NFL have fewer –none of which appear to be playoff contenders at this point in time.

    All of that bodes very well if you’re Seattle and without a doubt, there is one man whom they without question have to stop …


    Megatron … Meet Optimus Prime …
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    Going in to their Monday Night matchup with the Bears, wide receiver Calvin Johnson had 558 of his team’s 1579 yards … and 35 of his team’s 148 receptions. In other words, 35.3% of the Lions total receiving yards … and 24% of their total receptions were attributed to Johnson.
    Because of his absolute dominance on the gridiron, Lions wide receiver Calvin Johnson has earned the nickname “Megatron”, a name that is well deserved as he led the league last year in receiving yards (1681), was 4th in receptions (96), and finished 2nd only to New England’s Rob Gronkowski with 16 receiving touchdowns. Though he’s not been anywhere close to as dominant as last season, there is a strong correlation between Johnson’s performance and the overall offensive production of the Lions …

    Rams Game … (WIN 27-23) … Calvin Johnnson caught 6 passes for 111 yards.

    49ers Game … (LOSS 19-27) … Calvin Johnson caught 8 passes for 94 yards.

    Titans Game … (LOSS 44-41) … Calvin Johnson caught 10 passes for 164 yards a TD.

    Vikings Game … (LOSS 13-20) … Calvin Johnson caught 5 passes for 54 yards.

    Eagles Game … (WIN 26-23) … Calvin Johnson caught 6 passes for 135 yards.

    Bears Game … (LOSS 7-13) … Calvin Johnson caught 3 passes for 34 yards.

    So it goes without saying that stopping (or finding a way to neutralize) Megatron is central to beating the Lions. At 6’5” 236 pounds and capable of running 40 yards in 4.35 seconds, Johnson is a load for anyone to stop. But on Monday Night, veteran CB Charles Tillman (6’2” 198) put on an absolute clinic on how to do just that. Tillman shadowed Johnson all night, playing Bump and Run coverage on him and spending most of the game in Johnson’s face. The results … Johnson caught only 3 passes for a grand total of 34 yards. Well, it’s not going to get any easier for him this week. Megatron … meet Optimus Prime -- Richard Sherman (6’3” 195 pounds) who just might be the best CB in all of football right now. Sherman comes in to this game #1 in the NFL in Passes Defensed (11) and looks like he just might be able to cover the wind itself if asked to.

    Though Sherman will probably find himself matched up on Johnson for the majority of this game, Brandon Browner (6’4” 221 pounds) has the look of another Prime whose size and physical, aggressive style of play could also minimize Johnson’s effectiveness as well, should he find himself matched him up against Johnson on a few plays.

    With elite speed and coverage ability from Earl Thomas and hard hitting support from fellow Pro Bowler Kam Chancellor, Seattle’s secondary might be just the perfect weapon against Megatron as they will undoubtedly look to double team him with those guys during those times they break in to zone coverage.

    With wide receiver Nate Burleson out for the season and TE Brandon Pettigrew the only other real threat in the passing game (albeit only more of a short to mid-range option) … the Lions offense appears to be a bit of a 1 trick pony, as RB Mikel Leshoure and the running attack is a far cry from the days of Barry Sanders. Teams that are able stop Megatron essentially stop the Lions offense.


    Continue To Be The New Bad Boys …
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    After last Thursday’s game against the Seahawks, 49ers head coach Jim Harbaugh was asked about the physical nature of Seattle’s secondary. Here was what one reporter asked him and his response …
    Speaking of referees, a lot of plays on the outside where your receivers were kind of locked up with cornerbacks. How did you see that confrontation throughout the game going?

    "Well, I wouldn't use the words ‘locked up.' There's another word I would use. But, we'll take that up with the officials in New York, and get their view of it. That's the only position that we can be in."

    In fact, Harbaugh went so far as to go to the league office this week and complain/ask for clarification on the rules for just how physical cornerbacks are allowed to play.

    When told of Harbaugh’s comments during an interview on 710 ESPN, Pete Caroll retorted …
    "I'm surprised that he felt like their receivers were so overwhelmed"


    During that same interview, Carroll went on to talk about how he learned to value size in defensive backs from former Steelers great Mel Blount and from those Raiders teams of the 1970s. Guys like Blount and Jack Tatum helped to redefine how defense was played throughout the NFL … as those guys are two of the nastiest grittiest players ever to don a football uniform. And now Pete Carroll has instilled that exact same toughness, grittiness, and outright mauler mentality in to this team. In short, the Seahawks have become the very dirt-bags that former head coach Jim Mora always longed for.

    The Seahawks are going to need THAT team to show up on Sunday Morning if they’re going to shut down the Lions at home. As mentioned above, the Lions have had their struggles on offense and CAN be pressured in to making mistakes.

    For all that Seahawks fans complain about penalties … the Lions have actually been worse, committing an average of 7.8 per game (29th in the league vs. an average of only 7.3/game for the Seahawks). The Lions have committed 47 offensive penalties this season (only 6 teams have committed more including your Seattle Seahawks – who have 51).

    Lions have committed 6 interceptions and 5 fumbles this season, many of those in the Red Zone. They are a -5 in the Give Away/Take Away Department (25th in the NFL) … and rank #26 in the league in Turnovers per Game (-0.6).

    Matt Stafford is getting sacked an average of 2.0 times per game (10th most – nearly the exact same amount as Russell Wilson) … and he’s been hit almost as often as Wilson as well (Detroit – 27 QB Hits/Seattle – 29 QB Hits). So though they’ve only given up a total of 12 sacks thus far … Stafford’s offensive line is far from an impregnable fortress.

    The Lions lost and lost handily to the 49ers, Vikings, and Bears – all teams who have top tier defenses. Against those teams, the Lions allowed a total of 10 sacks … committed 2 interceptions … and fumbled the football 4 times.

    Even the Rams (who have a very solid defense and whom the Lions beat in their home opener) gave them fits, as Matt Stafford threw 3 interceptions in that game.

    The Seahawks defense comes in to this game …

    2nd Best in Red Zone Defense (they allow TD’s in the Red Zone only 30% of the time).

    8th Best in Sacks (they have 19)

    Tied for 7th Best in Opponent Fumbles/Game (Seahawk opponents fumble an average of 1.6/game). They have forced 9 fumbles (among the top 10 most in the league).

    10th Best in Passes Defensed (they have 43 PD’s)

    9th Best in Passes of 20 Yards or More Allowed (they have allowed only 17).

    So there is very good reason to believe that the Seahawks defense CAN give the Lions similar fits on Sunday if they don’t forget to bring their nasty streak with them. Detroit fans remember well the days of the Bad Boy Piston teams … and Sunday could easily be a very rude introduction for them to the NFL’s new Bad Boys …


    Autobots, Roll Out …
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    Regardless of how well the Seahawks defense does though … you’ve got to SCORE to win. On the surface, some of the numbers suggest that’s going to be far easier said than done …

    Detroit Lions DEFENSE …

    Passing Yards/Game … Lions are 6th Best in the NFL (210.5 Yards/Game)

    Pass Plays of 20 Yards+ … Lions are tied for 2nd Best in the NFL (only 12 such plays allowed)

    Red Zone Defense … the Lions have allowed a TD on only 25% of opponents’ trips inside the Red Zone (that is #1 in the NFL).

    Sacks … Lions are tied for 12th in the NFL (17 Sacks)

    Seattle Seahawks OFFENSE …

    Passing Yards/Game … Seahawks are 31st in the NFL (they average only 162 yards/game)

    Red Zone Scoring Percentage … Seahawks are 31st in the NFL, scoring a TD only 33.33% of the time.

    Points/Game … the Seahawks are 31st in the NFL, scoring an average of only 16.6 points per game.

    But Pete Carroll’s primary mode of attack hasn’t been through the air … it’s been almost a resurrection of Old Ground Chuck. The Seahawks and Marshawn Lynch come in to this game with the 8th Best Yards/Game average rushing the football (131.7 Rushing Yards/Game). And while the statistics indicate that Lions are an average defense against the run (they allow an average of 108.8 Yards/Game -- 17th Best in the league) … it should be noted how they have fared thus far against some of the game’s top running attacks …

    San Francisco (averages 176.6 Yards/Game on ground – 2nd Best) … Lions yielded 148 yards (5.5 yards/average rush) and a TD.

    Minnesota (averages 132.3 Yards/Game on ground – 7th Best) … Lions yielded 127 yards (4.5 yards/average rush)

    Chicago (averages 131.5 Yards/game on ground – 9th Best) … Lions yielded 171 yards (5.3 yards/average rush)

    So, there is good reason to believe that Marshawn Lynch will have similar success this Sunday. STILL … if this team is going to win … and has any aspirations of getting to and making any waves in the playoffs … they have GOT to open up the offense and allow Russell Wilson to do what he does best – utilize play action pass, create on the run, and let him THROW the football.

    From Danny O’Neil, to John Clayton, to Seahawk fans like you and me … the cry is the same – take the chains off this offense and free Russell Wilson. Conservative play calling is killing the Seahawks in so many ways. In the 49ers Game, Russell Wilson completed 5 of his first 9 passes [55.5% Completion Rate] in the first 2 series of the game. The result – Seattle got 2 field goals and led 6-3 at Halftime. But Wilson attempted a grand total of only 9 passes in the entire 2nd Half … only 3 of which ended up being caught (in large part because of the ineptitude of Seattle’s receivers). The result – San Francisco was able to key in on stopping the run, dominated the time of possession in the 2nd Half, and walked away the victors. Seattle comes in to this game having attempted a mere 175 passes so far this season – that ranks dead last in the NFL. That equates to an average of 25 pass attempts per game – far below the league average of 33-34 passes. If the Seahawks really want to contend … that’s got to change.

    Keith Myers who writes the blog “12th Man Rising”, had another interesting little factoid this past week …
    On first down, Wilson is completing 69% of his passes, has a 9.1 yards per attempt average, and a 101.4 rating. On all those [other] downs his completion percent drops under 60%, just yard per attempt is in under 6, and his rating is in the 50′s.

    Why the difference? Because teams are stacking the line trying to stop Lynch in those situations. Play-action or not, Wilson and the offense has been much [more] effective at finding mismatches and making things happen on first down, and they need to take advantage of that.

    Source:
    http://12thmanrising.com/2012/10/21/how-to-fix-the-seattle-seahawk-offense/

    The issue that Myers points that is currently happening is precisely the exact same kind of problem that the Seahawks Offense had at times under Mike Holmgren – it’s becoming far too predictable. Opposing defensive coordinators KNOW that when Russell Wilson drops back in to shotgun on 3rd down that they’re passing the ball. There is no threat of popping Marshawn Lynch through the hole on the kind of quick hitting trap plays that San Francisco gashed Seattle with last week (the exact same kind of trap plays that Holmgren used to run to near perfection here in Seattle by the way). It may be time to put the shotgun on the shelf, as it:

    A] signals to the defense that the upcoming play IS going to be a pass.
    B] takes away Wilson’s ability to get a better read on the defense from the line of scrimmage.
    C] takes away Wilson’s ability to utilize the play action pass (which he is a master at).

    So if Pete Carroll and John Schneider trusted Russell Wilson enough to name him this team’s starting QB … then they should trust him enough to take full control of the offense and let him create. And contrary to what it may appear, the statistics also say that there ARE potential points to be scored downfield IF Darrell Bevell chooses to put the ball in Wilson’s hands more and to allow him to take some shots against this Lions Defense …

    Points/Game … the Lions are 22nd in the NFL in points allowed (25.0 Points/Game)

    Passes Defensed … the Lions are 29th in the NFL in passes broken up (they have only 24 PD’s)

    Interceptions … the Lions are 32nd in the NFL (they have only 2 INT’s)

    Forced Fumbles … the Lions are among the bottom 9 teams in the NFL in creating them (their defense has created only 4 FF)

    Outside of Louis Delmas (who is a good free safety, but is questionable for this game with a knee issue), Chris Houston, Jacob Lacey, and Amari Spivey aren’t names that should strike fear in to the hearts of anyone. This is a secondary that is just begging to be tested.


    Beware of the Revenge of the Fallen …
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    In nature though, there is nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal. On Sunday, the Seahawks just might find this Lion’s den perilous indeed. While it may be tempting for some to think this game will be a coming out party for Seattle’s Offense … this is a Lions team that comes in to this contest licking its wounds as well. This is a team that was just embarrassed on the road in Chicago in front of a national audience Monday night. That loss dropped them dropped them to 2-4 on the season … and with the schedule that they have coming up their coach Jim Schwartz is more than likely telling them, “This is the season guys. We cannot and will not lose this game.” Playing a desperate team AT HOME following a tough loss is not an ideal formula for a Seahawks team needing a win.

    Though the Lions have had their struggles defensively this year ... there is obviously talent on this team. Last year, the Lions defense was able to produce 34 turnovers (Only San Francisco and Green Bay had more [each had 38]). And though they have allowed their share of yards on the ground, they have been fairly stout when it gets down to the Red Zone.

    The Lions come in to Sunday’s contest #1 in the NFL in fewest touchdowns allowed in the Red Zone Defense (they have allowed a TD on only 25% of opponents’ trips inside the Red Zone). For a Seahawks team that is 31st in Red Zone Offense and will be without Doug Baldwin … that’s not good.

    And while some of their defensive numbers have been down … this is a team that is quite capable of getting in to the opposition’s backfield and causing problems …

    DT Ndamukung Suh (7 Tackles for Loss – tied for 10th Best in the NFL)

    LB Justin Durant (6 Tackles for Loss – tied with Bobby Wagner)

    DE Cliff Avril (5 Tackles for Loss) – Chris Clemons and K.J. Wright both have 5.

    LB Deandre Levy (4 Tackles for Loss)

    Players like Ndamukung Suh and former All American Nick Fairly are certainly quite able of making life miserable for opposing offensive players. Just ask Jay Cutler, who’s probably still looking for the number of the truck that hit him. (It’s a good thing Russell Wilson can run.) The Seahawks are simply going to have to avoid making critical mistakes and committing dumb penalties. And believe it or not, the Seahawks have done a much better job of that.

    Much has been made about the Seahawks and their penalty situation. In their first 3 games, the Seahawks committed an almost unthinkable 32 penalties. But for all the airtime that Seahawk fans have been spending jamming the airwaves with complaints … that trend has actually changed dramatically. For those who haven’t been paying attention … since the Green Bay game and the return of the NFL’s regular referees … the Seahawks have just 19 miscues in 4 games. If you haven’t done the math in your head, let me lay it out for you …

    In Games Officiated by Replacement Refs …
    @ Cardinals ……………… 13 penalties
    Home against Cowboys ….... 5 penalties
    Home against Packers ….… 14 penalties
    Average Penalties/Game …. 10.66 penalties/game
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    In Games Officiated by Regular Refs …
    @ Rams ……………………. 5 penalties
    @ Panthers ………………… 7 penalties
    Home against Patriots ……… 4 penalties
    @ SF 49ers …………………. 3 penalties
    Average Penalties/Game …. 4.75 penalties/game

    Over their last 3 games then the Seahawks have averaged just 4.7 penalties/game … which (believe it or not) is the 4th FEWEST in the NFL. If the Seahawks want to win, they’ll have to continue to trend of playing fairly mistake free football, as Ford Field (like the CLINK) is one of the toughest venues in all of the NFL to play in (they have 100 False Start Penalties there since 2005 – 4th Most in the league over that time). Getting an early (and hopefully comfortable) lead on this team is going to be crucial to keeping this crowd from becoming a factor in this game.

    At 2-4, this Lions team is one that looks to be teetering on the precipice. Their fans are discouraged and they have a long and not so distinguished history of losing football. The Detroit Lions opened up the 2011 Season a staggering 5-0 … ever since though, they have gone 7-11. So if the coaching staff takes the training wheels off Russell Wilson … and the team plays good, solid fundamental Seahawk football … and doesn’t beat themselves … the Seahawks have a very good chance of marching in to MoTown, getting in to a Rhythm, and making the Lions and their fans the ones who are singing the Blues by the end of this game.

    Bold Prediction:

    The Seahawks put a hurting on Megatron and show the rest of the world that THEY are More Than Meets the Eye … ;)

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  • Shazaam! This has to be the longest post in .net history!! You've certainly covered a lot of ground. Your bias toward a Seahawk win is obvious. Problem is...I didn't see a stat covering our history for 10 am starts in the Eastern Time Zone.
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  • good write-up. I'm hoping the long week and nasty taste in our mouth from a close lose to SF will override our early game on the east coast slow start. Hawks win 27-10
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  • That was a lot to read...but good reading it was.

    I think the key to this win is us having success on first down and Wilson, chased to his right, not trying to throw back to the middle of the field.

    Despite his rookie-ness last week, I'd like to see Turbin get no less than 10 touches. I think his burst and ability to slash, serves us better against Suh and Fairley than the power running style of Lynch. I sincerely hope Pete /Bevell don't run head on into these two behemouths 2 out of every 3 downs. We'll be in a lot of 3rd and 8s if he does and that creates the probability of Wilson doing something he shouldn't do.

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  • Appreciate the effort. Keep it up.
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  • WOW, def long post. This Calvin Johnson quote gave me a laugh:

    "I'm not really (frustrated)," he said. "If I was dropping touchdown passes, then, yeah. But coverages have been dictating a lot of things down there. The touchdowns will come. We are still moving the ball and that's all that matters."

    Notably, the last sentence. Uhh, no, scoring TD's is all that matters dumbass unless you are only worried about your stats.
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:tl;dr


    I forget who said it last time, but they said it best -- why bother to post anything if you're not interested in reading the piece? I dunno man, I tend to be a meat and potatoes kind of guy ... and that's the kind of posts that I generally look for. I personally would much rather go for the 4 course meal than simply settle for Gerber and a bib. But hey, that's just me.

    If you've got something constructive to say either about this game or the Seahawks in general ... bring it to the table. If not ... punt.
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  • Bigpumpkin wrote:Shazaam! This has to be the longest post in .net history!! You've certainly covered a lot of ground. Your bias toward a Seahawk win is obvious. Problem is...I didn't see a stat covering our history for 10 am starts in the Eastern Time Zone.


    Touche'. :D I view this piece far more as an article than I do a post (which is what I prefer to do when looking at games like this). If I had my own blog, I'd post this over there. But as it is, I'd rather post this kind of piece here -- much better interaction with fellow Seahawks fans.

    And you're probably right on the fact that I might be wearing the Rose Colored Glasses on this one. I'd say that 17-13 might be more realistic if we're talking about a Seahawks victory.

    I'm just seeing that the Lions are decidedly one dimensional (they are only really a threat through the air). Their running game isn't truly much of a threat from what I can see. Mikel Leshoure just doesn't scare me (and John Clayton, who's seen him play a heck of a lot more than I have, agrees with that assessment). The Tennessee game was the ONLY game that he truly went off in. But the Titans (by the way) are one of the WORST (If not THE WORST) Run Defense in the league.

    Because of that, I'm envisioning that Nate Burleson's injury ends up looming large in this game. From what I can see, Megatron is Detroit's only true weapon on offense -- albeit an extremely dangerous one. I've meandered over to Lions forums, just to get a general sense of the atmosphere of Lions nation. I'd say the general sentiment is that most believe that the Lions offense is basically a 1 Trick Pony and that the league is figuring that out as well.

    I just see the Seahawks secondary (and the way they play defense) in many ways as being perfectly tailored to handling receivers like Calvin Johnson. This offense IS a FAR CRY from New England's high powered aerial attack so personally, it wouldn't surprise me in the least to see a repeat performance of what the Hawks defense did against Jordy Nelson and Steve Smith.

    As far as our offense is concerned, the numbers show clearly that top tier rushing teams can and have put up size-able numbers against this Lions defense. So, it is quite reasonable to believe that Marshawn Lynch will find similar room to run. Now that doesn't mean that they aren't potentially dangerous -- they most certainly are. Jay Cutler will tell you that, as the Lions sacked him 5 times. Suh, Durant, Avril, and Levy in particular have also racked up impressive numbers in Tackles for Loss.

    That said, the numbers also suggest that the Lions secondary (kind of like New England's secondary) is potentially vulnerable. Louis Delmas (their FS and their best defender in the secondary) is still hobbled a bit by his knee, as he's coming back from a recent surgery (he's listed as questionable for this game). So from what I can tell, there are opportunities to be had against them ... and the Lions defense as a whole gives up a lot of points (an average of 25 points/game -- which ranks 22nd in the league).

    Yes, Baldwin's absence in this game is a blow for sure ... but I just see this Lions team as being one that is truly on the edge of the precipice. They are 2-4 and have a long history of losing and of mediocrity. They know how to wear that loser's hat well and if this Seahawks team hits them in the mouth early ... it's highly possible that they and the fans in that stadium will be demoralized. If ever a game was set up for the Seahawks to sneak out a road win, it's this one. Which is why it scares me a bit because desperate teams can also be dangerous teams.

    Bigpumpkin wrote:Problem is...I didn't see a stat covering our history for 10 am starts in the Eastern Time Zone.


    Alright, alright. I agree on that one ... but only to a point. Since Leroy Hill and Marcus Trufant are the only ones who are on this roster prior to the current coaching regime (i.e. this is a totally different group of guys), I don't believe that it's fair to look any further back in the history books than the start of the Pete Carroll era when asking that question. My memory was saying that their record under Carroll heading East for early kickoffs was much better than in the past ... and the game logs prove that.

    So ... since 2010 and the beginning of the Pete Carroll Era in Seattle, the Seahawks are 4-6 in games that start at 10 A.M. in the Eastern Time Zone.

    Given the massive roster turnover and rebuilding process that went on in 2010 and in to 2011 however ... I'd have to say that a 4-6 record (given the circumstances) is actually fairly impressive.
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  • I'm jealous.
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  • Forget how long the post is. That is FANTASTIC stuff there. Stick around kid. Between you, Kearly and others, we're a spoiled community.
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  • kearly wrote:I'm jealous.


    Better step your game up. Just sayin...
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  • Great post. Thank you.
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  • Aros wrote:Forget how long the post is. That is FANTASTIC stuff there. Stick around kid. Between you, Kearly and others, we're a spoiled community.


    Thanks Todd ... it's not like checkers at the grocery store are still carding me by any means ... but I guess they say you're only as young as you feel (personally, I still feel like 21). As I've shared before, you and others might remember me from our days back at Scout.com ...

    http://sea.scout.com/2/349934.html

    We Todds have to stick together, right? :P I just really believe that when it comes to doing game previews like these ... always bring your A Game. I'd much rather read pieces/posts that actually make me think (like Kearly puts out there -- great job on your stuff BTW) than pithy rah, rah stuff that doesn't and which an opposing fan who's intelligent, well read, and well versed in the NFL can easily poke holes in.
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  • Holy crap, Scanner putting in WORK. With Seattle only allowing 5 TD passes so far this year to the murderer's row of QBs we have faced while Stafford has only thrown for 5 after amassing a ridiculous 41 last year, I'd say we are primed for a win.

    It shouldn't be easy as Detroit WIlLL play with a desperation.

    I just hope our offense can contribute some points to our cause.

    Because we need this one.
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:tl;dr


    Yep.


    Actually, I did read it this time. Very good analysis, but I'd agree with another poster in saying that I'd like to see some stats over PC's tenure regarding 10am road starts.
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  • .Net is the greatest place on earth. May I stop here as the life slowly leaves my body when it's time.

    Excellent work my friend. Excellent work...

    And to the tl;dr... seriously? This was an outstanding effort and wasn't just some fluff, it was actual good content. Well worth the read, you should honestly give it a shot. You seem a man of good taste, I'm sure you'll appreciate it.

    Hey Scanner, I'm trying to start a collective of sorts for the 'Hawks. I've got it linked in my sig area thingy, but if you ever want me to throw something up on my blog for you, feel free to contact me. This goes out to kearly and the rest of you crazy bastards. You guys are awesome. Nothin crazy, just tryin to collect Seahawks ideas and put em out there to the world, for no benefit other than the love of the game.
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  • NYCoug wrote:.Net is the greatest place on earth. May I stop here as the life slowly leaves my body when it's time.

    Excellent work my friend. Excellent work...

    And to the tl;dr... seriously? This was an outstanding effort and wasn't just some fluff, it was actual good content. Well worth the read, you should honestly give it a shot. You seem a man of good taste, I'm sure you'll appreciate it.


    It was a joke. Dry your eyes, ffs....
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  • Easy there Bro Namath. I was referring to the original tl;dr in the thread. Notice, you said you actually read it, so why would I target you?

    Anyways, back to the point... Scanner's the man!
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  • Fantastic post again scanner. As for the tldr crap, scew em. I very much enjoyed the entire post. Thanks for the obvious hard work.
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  • Hawkscanner wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:tl;dr


    I forget who said it last time, but they said it best -- why bother to post anything if you're not interested in reading the piece? I dunno man, I tend to be a meat and potatoes kind of guy ... and that's the kind of posts that I generally look for. I personally would much rather go for the 4 course meal than simply settle for Gerber and a bib. But hey, that's just me.

    If you've got something constructive to say either about this game or the Seahawks in general ... bring it to the table. If not ... punt.


    It was a joke, dude.
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
    Hawkscanner wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:tl;dr


    I forget who said it last time, but they said it best -- why bother to post anything if you're not interested in reading the piece? I dunno man, I tend to be a meat and potatoes kind of guy ... and that's the kind of posts that I generally look for. I personally would much rather go for the 4 course meal than simply settle for Gerber and a bib. But hey, that's just me.

    If you've got something constructive to say either about this game or the Seahawks in general ... bring it to the table. If not ... punt.


    It was a joke, dude.


    In that case Montana, my apologies. Just wanted to make sure Scanner got his due. Back to your regularly scheduled Hawk talk.
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  • Alright, so it was a douchy joke. That much is true.

    It WAS a long post, but a good long post. My first thought when I read it: "This guy needs his own blog."
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  • That was pretty epic..I hope you can keep it going each week. Well done!
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  • Lots of good stuff here. I agree with all but three points.

    1. Detroit's offense as a "one trick pony." This has been a talking point for Seahawks fans and Seattle area media but is not accurate. The Lions have been heavily investing in their passing game and have complemented Megatron with four other offensive playmakers drafted in the first or second round the last few years. Unfortunately, all four of these players currently have higher trade value than any of our receivers when it comes to value per contract dollar. If you think the Lions passing offense is a one trick pony then our passing offense must be a zero trick pony? Detroit fans love the potential of their youngsters even though they have yet to show up in terms of production. Boy, does that sound familiar.

    You mentioned TE Brandon Pettigrew (2009 1st round pick). He had a couple of huge games last season and will probably get the bulk of the looks that would have gone to Burleson. He is not just tall (6'6") but strong as well (265) with the same measurements as Gronkowski, and is used effectively as both a blocker and a receiver. KJ Wright's size helps here he will still be giving up both height and weight.

    Detroit fans see WR Titus Young (2011 2nd round pick) as a much better version of what we saw Lockette as. Really quick off the line of scrimmage and very fast down the sideline. They worry about his hands and his ability to deal with getting jammed at the line, but are optimistic that he can run away from our bigger CBs for TDs if he ever gets off the line cleanly.

    WR Ryan Broyles (2012 2nd round pick) will be taking over for Burleson and fans are excited to see what they have in him. He is coming off an injury and was inactive at the beginning of the season, but he played well coming off the bench for Burleson against the Bears. He will likely see action as part of the 3+ WR packages and be paired up against our nickel or dime back. That fits his apparent skillset perfectly which is finding the hole in zone coverage with quickness and good vision. This should be a fun matchup to watch as Tru becomes the wily veteran facing a quick but raw rookie.

    RB Mikel Leshoure (2011 2nd round pick) is also a threat in the passing game. He has good hands and quickness and can get upfield immediately after a catch. He fell to the bottom of the second round due to character concerns, but would likely have been a late first round pick otherwise. On first and second down he has some similarities to a Lynch-Lite; a power back who keeps his feet moving and thrives on YAC. However, the Lions see Leshoure as a back that can stay on the field on third downs.

    This is a talented group headlined by Calvin Johnson, not a group of scrubs with Calvin Johnson as the lone star as the overly simplified narrative would have you believe.

    2. As you say, part of our success when it comes to passing on first down is that teams are expecting us to run. However, I do not understand why you view this as a persuasive argument for passing more. Passing more on first down would change the expectations, and thus lower the expected value of attempts. There may be other good reasons to open up our passing game, but success based on infrequency is not one of them when you are advocating for increasing the frequency.

    3. I agree that the penalty situation has been much improved, but the discussion needs to look not just at total penalties but at the type of penalty.

    Okung's false start in the fourth quarter pushed us almost into our end zone. That made an impact on what sort of plays we could call and reduced the chance of success significantly. His hold in the second quarter turned a third and and short in 49ers territory into a second and long in Seahawks territory which resulted in a punt. While I would rather have a hold than a sack, this came on a running play where Turbin had room on the right side and would have only been minorly affected. Both of these fall into the category of bad penalties, as they could have been avoided by better discipline and the reward did not justify the risk. I am fine with the occasional contested pass interference call or holding call that prevents a sack, but a single bad penalty is one bad penalty too many.
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  • peachesenregalia wrote:
    MontanaHawk05 wrote:tl;dr


    Yep.

    Actually, I did read it this time. Very good analysis, but I'd agree with another poster in saying that I'd like to see some stats over PC's tenure regarding 10am road starts.


    *Ahem* -- from my response to Bigpumpkin earlier on in this thread ...

    Since Leroy Hill and Marcus Trufant are the only ones who are on this roster prior to the current coaching regime (i.e. this is a totally different group of guys), I don't believe that it's fair to look any further back in the history books than the start of the Pete Carroll era when asking that question. My memory was saying that their record under Carroll heading East for early kickoffs was much better than in the past ... and the game logs prove that.

    So ... since 2010 and the beginning of the Pete Carroll Era in Seattle, the Seahawks are 4-6 in games that start at 10 A.M. in the Eastern Time Zone.

    Given the massive roster turnover and rebuilding process that went on in 2010 and in to 2011 however ... I'd have to say that a 4-6 record (given the circumstances) is actually fairly impressive.


    Now beyond that ... I haven't done any further stat work. I'll leave that for someone who's far more ambitious than I am to look in to that question LOL! :P

    MontanaHawk05 wrote:It was a joke, dude.


    Cool. No problemo ... thanks for the clarification. As far as the blog thing is concerned -- I guess I'd consider it IF I ever thought it would draw as many Seahawk fans as Seahawks.net does. As it is, I like the interaction I get from Seahawk (and hopefully opposing) fans as well.
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  • I don't know how many of you have seen the latest Injury Report yet ... but the news (I would say) is far better for the Seahawks than for the Lions. Here is the breakdown w/comments regarding the Lions players and their potential impact (since I figure we don't need any on Seattle's since we know these guys) ...

    Friday's Injury Report ...

    Seahawks ...

    OUT
    WR Doug Baldwin (ankle)
    CB Byron Maxwell (hamstring)

    DOUBTFUL
    DT Jason Jones (ankle)

    QUESTIONABLE
    G John Moffitt (knee)

    PROBABLE
    RB Marshawn Lynch (back)

    Lions ...

    OUT
    CB Jacob Lacey (Concussion) -- that would be the Lions starting RCB
    S Amari Spievey (Concussion) -- that would be the Lions starting SS

    DOUBTFUL
    LB Deandre Levy (Hamstring) -- that would be the Lions starting WLB

    QUESTIONABLE
    DE Cliff Avril (Back) -- the Lions starting LDE (and a real potential issue if he's healthy)
    S Louis Delmas (Knee) -- the Lions starting FS (and the best defender in their secondary IMO)
    CB Dwight Bentley (Shoulder) -- Lacey's backup at RCB
    WR Titus Young (Knee) -- for a team needing help in the passing game opposite Calvin Johnson, that's not good news for them.

    PROBABLE
    WR Calvin Johnson (Knee) -- even if he's a little hobbled, that could potentially be a big issue against Sherman and the rest of the Legion of Boom.
    TE Brandon Pettigrew (Knee) -- again, not good news against THIS secondary.
    LB Stephen Tulloch (Knee) -- starting MLB for the Lions
    DT Corey Williams (Knee) -- starting Left Defensive Tackle.

    Looks like the Bears might have banged these guys up a bit and may given the Seahawks an early Bag of Goodies for Halloween. :th2thumbs:

    Source:
    http://seattletimes.com/html/seahawksblog/2019532776_dljasonjonesdoubtfultoplaysunday.html
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