Seahawks need to draft Brandon Coleman - Megatron II

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    Nobody is talking about this guy. Not been this excited about a player in a long time. 2013 eligible, legit top-15 potential. Seahawks should consider a Julio Jones type move if he declares. Included in the article are three videos of game tape so you can judge for yourself.

    LINK: http://seahawksdraftblog.com/brandon-co ... wks-target

    Brandon Coleman could be the most exciting offensive player in college football. He could be a future NFL star. And if he declares for 2013, the Seahawks should be ready to make their move. This guy is unreal.
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  • I seen him play a few times this year and I am also pretty excited about him. He does drop balls on occasion but his playing speed looks 4.4 yard dash type of fast. 6-6 220 lbs, 4.4 40 yard dash, with long arms = 1st round talent for sure.
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  • Those Rutgers Helmets are awesome.
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  • Chris Steuber reporting Seattle has scouts at the Rutgers game today vs Temple. Wonder who they're watching....
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  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Chris Steuber reporting Seattle has scouts at the Rutgers game today vs Temple. Wonder who they're watching....


    After Thursday Nights performance, WE ALL should know.
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  • I like that he can catch passes in traffic and gets used in a variety of looks. Not a one-trick pony.
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  • Yes i would love to have this kid or Jake Matthews. I think we may be able to wait on Matthews till the second round. But if this kid starts going off he may be on everyone's radar and i think i think it becomes a matter of trading up to get our guy like Atlanta did for Matt Ryan with Julio Jones.
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  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:Chris Steuber reporting Seattle has scouts at the Rutgers game today vs Temple. Wonder who they're watching....


    You have the link to this story English?
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  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:I like that he can catch passes in traffic and gets used in a variety of looks. Not a one-trick pony.


    I love the fact that damn near everything he catches is purely with his "HANDS" no body catches ever from this kid but he will drop a few.
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  • He plays pretty fast for his size. I doubt it that he declares this year but you never know
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  • Bringing up an old topic for discussion.

    Obviously Coleman's now considered a 3rd day prospect, but has he really regressed that much?

    His poor year can be at least partially attributed to poor quarterback play, and it's said that he also played through injury. In fact I think his biggest question mark going into the pros should be his health.

    He put up identical or better numbers than Kelvin Benjamin at the combine, though Benjamin's being talked about as a 1st day prospect. Admittedly KB had a few hundred more yards, but Coleman didn't have Jameis Winston throwing to him, far from it. I'd also say at this stage that Coleman has better hands and route running ability.

    Now there are a bunch of WR prospects I'd rather have over Coleman, but I'd be far more excited about taking him in the 4th than I would taking Benjamin in the 1st.
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  • I certainly don't see him as a third day prospect.
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  • theENGLISHseahawk wrote:I certainly don't see him as a third day prospect.


    Good, neither do I, but most of the sites I've seen have him in the 3-5 range.

    What are your thoughts 18months on?
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  • Pick 64 would be perfect.
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  • SomersetHawk wrote:
    theENGLISHseahawk wrote:I certainly don't see him as a third day prospect.


    Good, neither do I, but most of the sites I've seen have him in the 3-5 range.

    What are your thoughts 18months on?


    The offense at rutgers was a nightmare for two years and really prevented him from developing in the way we anticipate in 2012. However, he's a really underrated unique physical and athletic specimen. If he lands on the right offense with a good quarterback, in a year he could be a Josh Gordon level player. Deadly serious. Fantastic potential.
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  • His long strides remind me of Jerry Rice. (running with the ball, not comparing production) Count me in among those impressed enough to be all for drafting Coleman.

    I have been looking at other WR's this week, but I've found myself thinking Coleman the more I do. Maybe that's partly because he might be available later than perhaps he should be and be good value. But, I do think he could be a nice fit for the Seahawks offense. Possibly one of the steals of the draft.

    Gotta agree with English about Coleman.

    SomersetHawk - Is Coleman's health a significant enough issue to be so concerned to not draft him? Or, were you more saying that some clubs may too quickly dismiss him?
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  • He's still my favorite for #32. Or, preferably, somewhere in the top half of round 2 after trading down for picks. Twice.
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  • He had more drops than anyone in this year's WR draft class. Not the best route-runner either. I would take him in the third if we could, but certainly not sooner.
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  • I wouldn't say he regressed.

    He had very clear holes in his game in 2012. The expectation was, he'd show the ability to improve on those as one would expect from a So to Jr campaign.

    He simply didn't do that at all. He continues to have the same issues (tracking the ball, sinking hips on cuts, explosion out of his cuts, catching the ball clean). These issues are still entirely unresolved. He did regress somewhat in the explosive plays but I can see where the injury and QB play robbed him of at least that aspect of his game. These are elements I'd fully expect to rebound to his 2012 form and maybe even improve on when he gets to the next level.

    Overall, I don't see him getting better. And it's hard to just brush that away by injury. He could well be at his ceiling now. That is what drops him a couple rounds. Although frankly, what he does well, is what we want our big WR to do. So I'm not sure these nagging deficiencies in his game are really going to put us off on him.

    I expect he's going at #64. It's probably about 20 spots earlier than the next interested team would take him. But I don't think it'll deter us.

    I will say this much. He's a development project. But at least he's a functional player with the gifts he does possess while he develops. This isn't a team that needs star level talent infusion in order to be competitive. If he were to resolve some of these issues -- he could be a real steal even at #64. In fact, if we were so inclined to double dip at the WR position, I'd be completely ok with that. Baldwin and Kearse have one and two years respectively remaining. I don't see us keeping either one after their RFA year. Similar to Tate -- they'll get offers elsewhere that we won't match. If we get a couple WRs to season for this year so that they are ready in 2015/16 -- that has a lot of value. Particularly with where our salary spend is going to be by that point in time.

    It's a position where drafting for tomorrow has a lot of merit.
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  • Rob, I feel like your blog has been pegging Coleman somewhere in the 3rd-round range now. Is this true? I was all over this guy based on your stuff last year, but it seems like most people (and I feel like this included some of your articles) view him mostly as an athletic freak of nature who likely will not be able to put it all together.
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  • jkitsune wrote:Rob, I feel like your blog has been pegging Coleman somewhere in the 3rd-round range now. Is this true? I was all over this guy based on your stuff last year, but it seems like most people (and I feel like this included some of your articles) view him mostly as an athletic freak of nature who likely will not be able to put it all together.


    That's not where I've been pegging him. Had him at #32 in a few mocks. Recently I've shifted my focus to other players because I didn't want to just talk about one guy all the time. For me he's a top-50 pick. Could be first round, could be second. Huge potential.

    If I'm wrong I'll hold my hands up. But there just aren't many 6-6, 225lbs people on the planet that can do what he does.
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  • Wait you were comparing him to Calvin Johnson before?

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  • Hasselbeck wrote:Wait you were comparing him to Calvin Johnson before?

    :lol:

    In his defense... I wouldn't doubt that others in 2012 (when he posted it) were saying similar things. Coleman burst onto the scene and he was getting that sort of attention. The physique comparison still works. Coleman is still definitely very intriguing.
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  • Megatron II.
    Meh. He hasn't developed as we thought he coulda/shoulda/woulda had the last couple of years.
    Sure, he could pay off as a long term investment. But admit it. He's a project.
    If we want to take all that on development-wise, its OK with me, but at #64 at the earliest.

    Bigtime boom or bust potential IMO.
    Personally, I see him as Stephen Williams II. (Certainly not Megatron or Gordon.)

    I like the recent thoughts on Jarvis Landry at 32, (or even Cody Latimer), as opposed to drafting Coleman's "potential", but I like all of them a whole lot better at #64 instead.

    I mean gosh... I know this is an old article... but hindsight on Coleman is supposed to be 20/20 by now...


    On a lighter note...

    When all is said and done, in 2014's reality, English is still right on the money for the Hawks first-rounder...

    But its Joel Bitonio at #32.
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  • I'd be very happy with Coleman at #64, I think he would provide a huge RedZone target and a deep jump ball type on the outside we don't have. There are so many WR's this year it's hard to pinpoint which one fits our team best but for the last 2 drafts I have been begging for a big young WR and Coleman is a guy who might not fit with a team he trues to use him as a true #1 but on a team that has Harvin, Lynch, and Wilson as weapons he can make some big plays when needed and will be able to cause mismatches.
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  • What if we drafted Latimer at #32, and Coleman is still on the board at #64. Would we be crazy enough to bite on two WR's in the first two rounds?
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:Wait you were comparing him to Calvin Johnson before?

    :lol:


    And?
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  • kigenzun wrote:Megatron II.
    Meh. He hasn't developed as we thought he coulda/shoulda/woulda had the last couple of years.
    Sure, he could pay off as a long term investment. But admit it. He's a project.
    If we want to take all that on development-wise, its OK with me, but at #64 at the earliest.

    Bigtime boom or bust potential IMO.
    Personally, I see him as Stephen Williams II. (Certainly not Megatron or Gordon.)

    I like the recent thoughts on Jarvis Landry at 32, (or even Cody Latimer), as opposed to drafting Coleman's "potential", but I like all of them a whole lot better at #64 instead.

    I mean gosh... I know this is an old article... but hindsight on Coleman is supposed to be 20/20 by now...


    On a lighter note...

    When all is said and done, in 2014's reality, English is still right on the money for the Hawks first-rounder...

    But its Joel Bitonio at #32.
    Logan Mankins II.
    The steal of the draft.

    Everyone has their opinions and everyone thinks they are a genius armchair GM. I'm not as high on Bitonio as others seem to be. But, if the Seahawks draft him... of course I'll hope he plays like a future HOF lineman. ;)
    I doubt Latimer gets drafted in the first round and I would be just as surprised to see either him or Coleman taken in the first two rounds. I guess ya never know, though. It only takes one team to be enamored with a player.
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  • TeamoftheCentury wrote:
    kigenzun wrote:English is still right on the money for the Hawks first-rounder...
    But its Joel Bitonio at #32.
    Logan Mankins II.
    The steal of the draft.

    Everyone has their opinions and everyone thinks they are a genius armchair GM. I'm not as high on Bitonio as others seem to be. But, if the Seahawks draft him... of course I'll hope he plays like a future HOF lineman. ;)
    I doubt Latimer gets drafted in the first round and I would be just as surprised to see either him or Coleman taken in the first two rounds. I guess ya never know, though. It only takes one team to be enamored with a player.


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    The Brandon Coleman project at 128
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  • lol. Well, ok then.

    I try to not get overly enamored with any player in hopes that the Hawks will draft them. There's a huge pool of players to evaluate and we all have our pre-draft ideas about who might fit and might be better picks. The evaluation process doesn't exactly peg what kind of players these guys will be.

    Go to the NFL.com site and watch the newly posted video about "will Pete continue to have success in Seattle." I thought the comment that "Pete has cracked the code" was excellent. The eval for the draft and getting the type of guys they think can buy into the system is key. So, we're only looking at these guys from what we can observe. That's where the cool part comes in now for us in this exciting time as Seahawks fans. They may not work out, but many of their draft picks are sticking with the team. But, if the player gets drafted by Seattle... there's reason for optimism that at least they think the player has a chance to buy in and contribute.

    btw... my opinion (and not really on topic. My apologies there.) The lyrics to "imagine" are some of the worst of any song in history. Yeah, there's some intended good laced in there and I'm not saying all of it. Too, I can appreciate the Beatles. Definitely worldview planted in there and then set to music - it's a powerful brainwash. Maybe some agree with Lenon's worldview. It's not my worldview, though. The music it is set to is beautiful, but the lyrics are a bunch of lies. Music isn't just music. It is used for political purposes, religious purposes, etc.
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  • TeamoftheCentury wrote:lol. Well, ok then.

    Music isn't just music. It is used for political purposes, religious purposes, etc.


    I think it was printed down in the corner on a poster I read at FYE, while looking at DVDs for my brother's birthday present.
    We were looking for the Hobbit, original animated version, and it wasn't there.
    This 'pure propaganda' must've filtered through sub-consciously while half asleep before my coffee the next morning.

    (Note time stamp.)

    Still...
    1.32. Bitonio
    2.64. Latimer
    4.132. Coleman

    We could be dancin'... YEAH!
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  • kigenzun wrote:
    Still...
    1.32. Bitonio
    2.64. Latimer
    4.132. Coleman

    We could be dancin'... YEAH!


    I think Bitonio and Latimer are going to be very high on our board and it would not surprise me if they were our first two picks. I don't see us taking 2 WRs in our first 3 picks though.
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