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 Post subject: Thursday game (from Niners fan)
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Tough, physical game. I think it's just a glimpse of what we have coming in the future. This kind of football is awesome to see. Lots of respect to the Hawks. Y'all have a good team. Things I think after seeing this (will keep it short)
- Niners have best Oline in NFL, no one else close
- Niners have best LBs in NFL, no one else close
- Hawks have best secondary in NFL, no on else close
- both teams have top 5 Dlines
- both teams have stable of tough runningbacks (Lynch and Gore were warriors) can't believe Buffalo let him go
- both teams could use some more WR talent. Although I think Niners Wrs core if including VD Are pretty good, just outclassed in this game by Hawks secondary
- both teams have questions at qb. Although hawks have more of developmental issue that has good chance of improving. Niners know what they have in Smith. If he keeps turning ball over, he will be riding bench. IMO, Niners with Kaepernick will be VERY dangerous team.

Can't wait for the war coming in seattle in December. I have feeling it will be very meaningful game. Will come down to execution, minimizing mistakes and who wants it more. Good luck on rest of the season gentleman.


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classy first post mang, you join the very few niner faithful on this site that aren't spewing from both ends! Welcome..

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Took the words right out of my mouth tooshort. Also, pretty fair if not spot-on assessment imo.


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Pretty fair assessment. Our teams are quite evenly matched.

Hopefully, the rest of the season works out so that the game in December is meaningful.

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Good post...can't disagree with anything you said.

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LB are a push for both teams, other than that I agree

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 Post subject: Re: Thursday game (from Niners fan)
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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.


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Good post and I agree with most of it but I am not as down on our receiving core as some, I think a big part of their appearance is a reflection of rookie struggles.

The big question is have the Seahawks overtaken the Niners? I don't think it is a question of if, I think it is a question of when and after the brutal stretch of games we just played to travel to San Fran and even keep it close, let alone making mistakes we rarely ever make. Don't get me wrong I am not the guy that say's our offense just had a bad day (ignoring the opposing defense likely played a large part in it) but we were making mistakes we normally don't like dropping more pass's in one game than the rest of the season and getting gashed up the middle like we have the 30th ranked defense against the run.

I know you have a good O-line and RB but I do think they benefitted from a team running on empty after playing 4 games in 25 datys and comming in 4 days after playing a very emotional game against that Patriots.

The big question is how are our rookies going to develop? Wagner is already looking very promising, Irvin show's some flash's of brilliance and if Wilson develop's the way he look like he might, we will be sitting pretty. The flip side of that coin is the Niners are aging. Not there yet but you have some key players looking at the other side of 30. I guess we'll see if you can draft for replacement but right now I would say our drafting is winning that battle.

Another concern you have is Alex Smith. He has been converting back to the Alex of old recently and the question of have teams figurd out how to play him is a big one. Maybe it's all the down field targets you brought in. Some (myself included) have speculated that bringing in guys who stretch the field for a guy who has always struggled at that exact thing is a questionable move. If he keeps getting picked off trying to utilize them it may just send him right back to the Alex of old.

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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.



I value the guys opinion, He came in with class ,respectful of Hawk fans and delivered a spot on assessment of his view of two very good teams in the NFCW..Whats not to like?


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LB are a push for both teams, other than that I agree


Disagree. Its tough to compare the two schemes. Hawks have nice talent at LB. Really think Wagner will turn into good player. However, Niners have HOF caliber MLB playing next to all pro MLB. Both in their primes. Aldon Smith could have been rookie of year last year. You could make argument that Niners have 3 of the top ten LBs in NFL. That is crazy. It's similar to the type of talent hawks have in secondary.


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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.

Then don't click on the link.

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SinCitySeahawk wrote:
Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.


Oh don't get me wrong. I hate your team too. However, I respect them. Especially the way they run the ball and play defense. It's like looking at evil twin of the Niners.


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LB are a push for both teams, other than that I agree


No way LB are a push. Maybe next year if Wagner and Wright learn a few things and we replace Old Man Hill. Bowman might be better than Willis and Willis is one of the best LB in the league.

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DMH42 wrote:
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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.


Oh don't get me wrong. I hate your team too. However, I respect them. Especially the way they run the ball and play defense. It's like looking at evil twin of the Niners.

No, YOU'RE the evil twin! We're the good guys :)

It's good to have a nemesis. The better the bad guy, the greater he makes the hero. You're Darth Niner. We're Luke Seahawker and the Legion of Boom.

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Good post and I agree with most of it but I am not as down on our receiving core as some, I think a big part of their appearance is a reflection of rookie struggles.

The big question is have the Seahawks overtaken the Niners? I don't think it is a question of if, I think it is a question of when and after the brutal stretch of games we just played to travel to San Fran and even keep it close, let alone making mistakes we rarely ever make. Don't get me wrong I am not the guy that say's our offense just had a bad day (ignoring the opposing defense likely played a large part in it) but we were making mistakes we normally don't like dropping more pass's in one game than the rest of the season and getting gashed up the middle like we have the 30th ranked defense against the run.

I know you have a good O-line and RB but I do think they benefitted from a team running on empty after playing 4 games in 25 datys and comming in 4 days after playing a very emotional game against that Patriots.

The big question is how are our rookies going to develop? Wagner is already looking very promising, Irvin show's some flash's of brilliance and if Wilson develop's the way he look like he might, we will be sitting pretty. The flip side of that coin is the Niners are aging. Not there yet but you have some key players looking at the other side of 30. I guess we'll see if you can draft for replacement but right now I would say our drafting is winning that battle.

Another concern you have is Alex Smith. He has been converting back to the Alex of old recently and the question of have teams figurd out how to play him is a big one. Maybe it's all the down field targets you brought in. Some (myself included) have speculated that bringing in guys who stretch the field for a guy who has always struggled at that exact thing is a questionable move. If he keeps getting picked off trying to utilize them it may just send him right back to the Alex of old.


All good points. I would point out that Niners had to play 4 days before too. A game that was an emotional a@$ beating from another tough rival team.

You might be right about Smith. The thing I would be more concerned about is the Niners benching Smith and having Kaepernick running the offense. He could change the dynamic of the team for years.


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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.

Then don't click on the link.

Good job on contributing some substance to the topic. This is supposed to be a Seahawk forum, not a 49ers welcoming committee.


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Good post. I agree with all of it except I would say top 5 defenses not D-lines. Should be fun in December.


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Good post. I agree with all of it except I would say top 5 defenses not D-lines. Should be fun in December.


I agree with that too. Handful of great defenses right now. Niners, Hawks, Texans, Giants, Steelers. Ravens in mix (but really beat up). Cardinals (unfortunately) deserve to be mentioned too.


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SinCitySeahawk wrote:
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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.

Then don't click on the link.

Good job on contributing some substance to the topic. This is supposed to be a Seahawk forum, not a 49ers welcoming committee.



Actually we've always allowed current weeks opponent to come over and talk football and this damn sure is the current weeks opponent.

He's just having discussions about the difference between the teams what's wrong with that. Perhaps its you who should adjust your attitude a bit.

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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.

Then don't click on the link.

Good job on contributing some substance to the topic. This is supposed to be a Seahawk forum, not a 49ers welcoming committee.

You now have two posts in this thread that do not contribute any substance to the topic. If you don't like fans from other teams coming here and having a respectful football conversation, then I suggest you either (A) avoid such threads altogether, or (B) PM the mods for clarification of the policy regarding such visitors. Or PM them with a suggestion on how to better handle the situation, if you don't like how it's currently handled.


On topic... I agree, the Digit game at Clink will be a slobberknocker. And I believe it isn't going to be more than a year or two before all four teams in the NFCW are playing at a high level. Even this year, I think it is entirely possible for all four teams to win every divisional home game. (Has that ever happened?)

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Jeez, SinCity... Having visiting fans is a big part of having a team forum like .Net. I know that as well as anyone as I post forums every week for our membership to visit their forums. As long as visitors aren't blatent trolls, they are welcomed here, and enjoyed. They're just fans of their team... No more or less than we are of the Seahawks. This 9er fan was very respectful, and gave a fairly accurate opinion. Just 'cause they're not a Seahawks fan doesn't mean they're an asshole. Please, grow up a bit. Always remember... No matter how strong your feelings about it, it's still just a game.

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Tough, physical game. I think it's just a glimpse of what we have coming in the future. This kind of football is awesome to see. Lots of respect to the Hawks. Y'all have a good team. Things I think after seeing this (will keep it short)
- Niners have best Oline in NFL, no one else close
- Niners have best LBs in NFL, no one else close
- Hawks have best secondary in NFL, no on else close
- both teams have top 5 Dlines
- both teams have stable of tough runningbacks (Lynch and Gore were warriors) can't believe Buffalo let him go
- both teams could use some more WR talent. Although I think Niners Wrs core if including VD Are pretty good, just outclassed in this game by Hawks secondary
- both teams have questions at qb. Although hawks have more of developmental issue that has good chance of improving. Niners know what they have in Smith. If he keeps turning ball over, he will be riding bench. IMO, Niners with Kaepernick will be VERY dangerous team.

Can't wait for the war coming in seattle in December. I have feeling it will be very meaningful game. Will come down to execution, minimizing mistakes and who wants it more. Good luck on rest of the season gentleman.


Pretty good post but you can't be serious about Kaepernick can you? oh... you were serious. Sorry bout that... :stirthepot:


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I guess I was a little too harsh for the people in this forum. I apologize to those I offended. Maybe, we can start a knitting club with those wonderful fans from San Fran.


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I guess I was a little too harsh for the people in this forum. I apologize to those I offended. Maybe, we can start a knitting club with those wonderful fans from San Fran.


Run along then son. The grown ups are trying to have a conversation about football here.

I don't blame anyone else for his classless behavior. People like this are all over message boards. (even 49er boards :| ) He might just be down after loss. Trust me, I know how that feels. Felt it last Sunday.......


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On topic... I agree, the Digit game at Clink will be a slobberknocker. And I believe it isn't going to be more than a year or two before all four teams in the NFCW are playing at a high level. Even this year, I think it is entirely possible for all four teams to win every divisional home game. (Has that ever happened?)


I am trying to think of a time and I can't. All four of these teams could be in it until the end. I do think Niners will beat the Cards next Monday. They are tough on D, and I have nothing but respect for Fitzgerald, I just think Niners' s lines will wear them down over course of game. The rams game in st Louis will not be easy either.


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We are sadly like the 49ers little brother. Teams built almost identically schematically. Suffocate with defense, pound with ground game and don't turn the ball over.

The key differences I do see are:

They have a better front 7 on d and we have a better secondary.

On O I think we have a better QB, but they have a superior o-line.

Anyway, like so many big brothers it seems like they can always do everything a little better. But then someday the little brother catches up and gets revenge, I think that time is near.


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That was a slobberknocker of a game.
The digits imposed their will at their house for a short time and that was the difference. Credit fiery harbaugh and co..
Monster linebackers with them. Still couldnt stop Beast Mode...the sad truth is we lose most of the roadgames until our hawks get more of an offensive id.

Gore has been huge. I had thought he wouldve been out of the league with knee injyries, but all he has done is lead all time for them.

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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.

Then don't click on the link.

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it's easy, very easy, in fact, to be cordial after a win. If we would have beaten you would you be here posting the same things? Nope. Hope to see you post your thoughts after we win in December, baby girl.


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Tough, physical game. I think it's just a glimpse of what we have coming in the future. This kind of football is awesome to see. Lots of respect to the Hawks. Y'all have a good team. Things I think after seeing this (will keep it short)
- Niners have best Oline in NFL, no one else close
- Niners have best LBs in NFL, no one else close
- Hawks have best secondary in NFL, no on else close
- both teams have top 5 Dlines
- both teams have stable of tough runningbacks (Lynch and Gore were warriors) can't believe Buffalo let him go
- both teams could use some more WR talent. Although I think Niners Wrs core if including VD Are pretty good, just outclassed in this game by Hawks secondary
- both teams have questions at qb. Although hawks have more of developmental issue that has good chance of improving. Niners know what they have in Smith. If he keeps turning ball over, he will be riding bench. IMO, Niners with Kaepernick will be VERY dangerous team.

Can't wait for the war coming in seattle in December. I have feeling it will be very meaningful game. Will come down to execution, minimizing mistakes and who wants it more. Good luck on rest of the


season gentleman.


Yeah ur oline is pretty good. They kept saying three first round picks. 10 years of semi crappy seasons will get you that tho. Now its coming together for SF. Gonna b tough to beat for awhile. We had that game in the first half. Couldn't capitilize on our opps. Beat ourselves there. Then SF adjusted and we got gassed and couldn't stop gore.

Would love to have seen what happened had our wr made the catches. Oh well. Figure we'll win all our home division games this year. Need SF to slip.up a couple times. We still have a young team. This is just a sign of good things to come

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DMH42 wrote:
Tough, physical game. I think it's just a glimpse of what we have coming in the future. This kind of football is awesome to see. Lots of respect to the Hawks. Y'all have a good team. Things I think after seeing this (will keep it short)
- Niners have best Oline in NFL, no one else close
- Niners have best LBs in NFL, no one else close
- Hawks have best secondary in NFL, no on else close
- both teams have top 5 Dlines
- both teams have stable of tough runningbacks (Lynch and Gore were warriors) can't believe Buffalo let him go
- both teams could use some more WR talent. Although I think Niners Wrs core if including VD Are pretty good, just outclassed in this game by Hawks secondary
- both teams have questions at qb. Although hawks have more of developmental issue that has good chance of improving. Niners know what they have in Smith. If he keeps turning ball over, he will be riding bench. IMO, Niners with Kaepernick will be VERY dangerous team.

Can't wait for the war coming in seattle in December. I have feeling it will be very meaningful game. Will come down to execution, minimizing mistakes and who wants it more. Good luck on rest of the season gentleman.


As MOST people have said here -- you most certainly are welcome. Contrary to popular belief of some ... there ARE actually 49ers fans out there who are intelligent and who aren't thugs. As I mentioned in the other 49er fan thread, my best friend is a 49ers fan. Our friendship goes back to the days of Montana and Rice and when the Seahawks were in the AFC West, so we've never thought of ourselves as being true rivals. It's always good when intelligent fans from other teams who aren't obnoxious or rude want to chime in. Here's my .02 on what you had to say ...

On the 49ers Offensive Line -- I'd have to agree that they are in the top 10. The absolute best though? I don't know. That Patriots team's offensive line was right up there. I said back in 2010 when the 49ers drafted Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati that this was a group to watch out for in a couple of years. That dominance was certainly on display on Thursday night. That O-Line is without a doubt the strength of the 49ers -- that's for sure.

On the 49ers LB's -- maybe, maybe. The Packers' Clay Matthews is special, but the rest of his group isn't nearly as dominant. Chicago's Lance Briggs and Brian Urlacher aren't what they used to be. I'd say this Seahawks group IMO is definitely up there in the Top 10. K.J. Wright and Navorro Bowman are virtually the same guy. And it was former 49er fullback Michael Robinson who called rookie MLB Bobby Wagner a young Patrick Willis. But as far as the Niners LB's being the absolute best -- yeah, I might buy that.

On the Seahawks Secondary -- As you probably know, Richard Sherman (the only one of the starting 4 who didn't make the Pro Bowl last year) just might be the best CB in all of football right now. Going in to this weekend, he was leading the league in Passes Defensed. With the way he's playing right now, it looks like he could effectively cover the wind itself if asked to. I'd have to agree the Hawks Secondary right now is the best in the NFL.

On the Defensive Lines -- Absolutely. The D-Lines for both teams are certainly right up there (though yours certainly showed up to play on Thursday while ours -- specifically Mebane -- not so much).

On Lynch and Gore -- both guys certainly ARE tough and warrior-like. But if I were starting a team ... and you said I could have either Gore or Lynch ... I'd take Lynch in a heartbeat. In many ways, he reminds me of an Earl Campbell in terms of his sheer force of will, his Terminator-like tenacity, and the level of aggression he runs with. Don’t get me wrong – Gore is very good. It’s just given a choice, I’d take Lynch.

On the 2 WR Corps – you’re absolutely right. I’ve been saying that for some time now that the 49ers receivers are a true Achilles Heel of this team … and it’s become painfully obvious that the same thing goes for the Seahawks. If I’m John Schneider, I’m pouring major resources in to upgrading both the WR Corps and the Offensive Line. Hopefully they’ll have as good a luck in this upcoming draft in those 2 areas as they’ve had in terms of the defense.

Completely agreed as far as the QB’s are concerned. My 49ers friend LOVES to defend Alex Smith and I always tell him the exact same thing. Alex Smith AT BEST is an accurate passer who is a game manager. But, if you put pressure on him ... or if you need him to actually WIN a game for you -- he'll choke. IMO, Kaepernick is your future starter at QB. If I’m Harbaugh, I look to groom him to take over as starter possibly as soon as next season. On Wilson, he’s obviously a rookie. Some of the struggles he’s had can be attributed to his O-Line and WR … but others can simply be chalked up to rookie-itis. As I wrote to the other 49er fan … all the hubbub surrounding Wilson’s height is just that – talk without any real evidence to show that it’s truly an issue.

I completely agree that the December game up here in Seattle is going to be a war. Given the struggles that Alex Smith had in his own home stadium, I find it hard to believe that he’s going to improve on his performance at the CLINK. I totally agree that it’s going to come down to who wants to win more. Until then, Adieu.


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Good post...can't disagree with anything you said.

I can. I don't see it from Kaepernick. Otherwise, I agree on all points.

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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.


YES!!!!! i welcome the opinions of the opposing fans... if they come in and are knowledgable and respectuful , i'll welcome them any time...

i agree for the most part with the post. your LB's much better group, our d line better, your o line better, our db's much better, q back, give you the edge for now, just due to inexperience, but in the long run, really think we have a winner in wilson.... coaching i give the edge to SF right now, our OC is killing us, and pete wants to be friends with everyone rather than fix the problem...

thanks for the ensightful post... see you at the CLink.....

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Am I the only one annoyed by all the 9ers fans posting here? It's a fairly accurate post, but I hate your team, and don't care about your opinion of my team.


YES!!!!! i welcome the opinions of the opposing fans... if they come in and are knowledgable and respectuful , i'll welcome them any time...

i agree for the most part with the post. your LB's much better group, our d line better, your o line better, our db's much better, q back, give you the edge for now, just due to inexperience, but in the long run, really think we have a winner in wilson.... coaching i give the edge to SF right now, our OC is killing us, and pete wants to be friends with everyone rather than fix the problem...

thanks for the ensightful post... see you at the CLink.....


I certainly agree with most of this. I would not say Seattle D-line better than 49ers. They are really close, just tough to compare because schemes are so different. I think Mebane would make great Niner if yall ever want to get rid of him. The Niner coaching staff has done stellar job, but IMO the real difference is GM Trent Baalke. He has done outstanding job bringing talent in.

Baalke draft and free agent homeruns: Iupati, A. Davis, Jonathan Goodwin, Bruce Miller, Kendall Hunter, Aldon Smith, Carlos Rogers, Donte Whitner, NaVorro Bowman, Larry Grant to name a few.

Has also brought in developmental talents like Kaepernick, LaMichael James, A. J. Jenkins and Chris Culliver (who I think will be niners top corner soon) that jury is still out on. They will get their respective opportunities to contribute for long term team success.


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FlyingGreg wrote:
Good post...can't disagree with anything you said.

I can. I don't see it from Kaepernick. Otherwise, I agree on all points.


Maybe just some wishful thinking on my part, but I really like what I have seen from Kaepernick in limited playing time. Reminds me a lot of young, bigger Randall Cunningham. Both 2nd round picks from non-powerhouse schools, but dominating competition, both really raw coming out, used as back ups to somewhat limited qbs, at first used primarily in running packages, even his release and movement reminds me a lot of Cunningham. I guess we will see.


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Tough, physical game. I think it's just a glimpse of what we have coming in the future. This kind of football is awesome to see. Lots of respect to the Hawks. Y'all have a good team. Things I think after seeing this (will keep it short)
- Niners have best Oline in NFL, no one else close
- Niners have best LBs in NFL, no one else close
- Hawks have best secondary in NFL, no on else close
- both teams have top 5 Dlines
- both teams have stable of tough runningbacks (Lynch and Gore were warriors) can't believe Buffalo let him go
- both teams could use some more WR talent. Although I think Niners Wrs core if including VD Are pretty good, just outclassed in this game by Hawks secondary
- both teams have questions at qb. Although hawks have more of developmental issue that has good chance of improving. Niners know what they have in Smith. If he keeps turning ball over, he will be riding bench. IMO, Niners with Kaepernick will be VERY dangerous team.

Can't wait for the war coming in seattle in December. I have feeling it will be very meaningful game. Will come down to execution, minimizing mistakes and who wants it more. Good luck on rest of the season gentleman.


As MOST people have said here -- you most certainly are welcome. Contrary to popular belief of some ... there ARE actually 49ers fans out there who are intelligent and who aren't thugs. As I mentioned in the other 49er fan thread, my best friend is a 49ers fan. Our friendship goes back to the days of Montana and Rice and when the Seahawks were in the AFC West, so we've never thought of ourselves as being true rivals. It's always good when intelligent fans from other teams who aren't obnoxious or rude want to chime in. Here's my .02 on what you had to say ...

On the 49ers Offensive Line -- I'd have to agree that they are in the top 10. The absolute best though? I don't know. That Patriots team's offensive line was right up there. I said back in 2010 when the 49ers drafted Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati that this was a group to watch out for in a couple of years. That dominance was certainly on display on Thursday night. That O-Line is without a doubt the strength of the 49ers -- that's for sure.

On the 49ers LB's -- maybe, maybe. The Packers' Clay Matthews is special, but the rest of his group isn't nearly as dominant. Chicago's Lance Briggs and Brian Urlacher aren't what they used to be. I'd say this Seahawks group IMO is definitely up there in the Top 10. K.J. Wright and Navorro Bowman are virtually the same guy. And it was former 49er fullback Michael Robinson who called rookie MLB Bobby Wagner a young Patrick Willis. But as far as the Niners LB's being the absolute best -- yeah, I might buy that.

On the Seahawks Secondary -- As you probably know, Richard Sherman (the only one of the starting 4 who didn't make the Pro Bowl last year) just might be the best CB in all of football right now. Going in to this weekend, he was leading the league in Passes Defensed. With the way he's playing right now, it looks like he could effectively cover the wind itself if asked to. I'd have to agree the Hawks Secondary right now is the best in the NFL.

On the Defensive Lines -- Absolutely. The D-Lines for both teams are certainly right up there (though yours certainly showed up to play on Thursday while ours -- specifically Mebane -- not so much).

On Lynch and Gore -- both guys certainly ARE tough and warrior-like. But if I were starting a team ... and you said I could have either Gore or Lynch ... I'd take Lynch in a heartbeat. In many ways, he reminds me of an Earl Campbell in terms of his sheer force of will, his Terminator-like tenacity, and the level of aggression he runs with. Don’t get me wrong – Gore is very good. It’s just given a choice, I’d take Lynch.

On the 2 WR Corps – you’re absolutely right. I’ve been saying that for some time now that the 49ers receivers are a true Achilles Heel of this team … and it’s become painfully obvious that the same thing goes for the Seahawks. If I’m John Schneider, I’m pouring major resources in to upgrading both the WR Corps and the Offensive Line. Hopefully they’ll have as good a luck in this upcoming draft in those 2 areas as they’ve had in terms of the defense.

Completely agreed as far as the QB’s are concerned. My 49ers friend LOVES to defend Alex Smith and I always tell him the exact same thing. Alex Smith AT BEST is an accurate passer who is a game manager. But, if you put pressure on him ... or if you need him to actually WIN a game for you -- he'll choke. IMO, Kaepernick is your future starter at QB. If I’m Harbaugh, I look to groom him to take over as starter possibly as soon as next season. On Wilson, he’s obviously a rookie. Some of the struggles he’s had can be attributed to his O-Line and WR … but others can simply be chalked up to rookie-itis. As I wrote to the other 49er fan … all the hubbub surrounding Wilson’s height is just that – talk without any real evidence to show that it’s truly an issue.

I completely agree that the December game up here in Seattle is going to be a war. Given the struggles that Alex Smith had in his own home stadium, I find it hard to believe that he’s going to improve on his performance at the CLINK. I totally agree that it’s going to come down to who wants to win more. Until then, Adieu.


I can see some Campbell in Lynch. Dude was awesome on Thursday. No one runs on Niners like that. The one on one collisions with Justin Smith and Goldson were the reasons I love football (Goldson and Lynch are actually really good friends btw). It was tough running too. A lot of Lynch's runs came after contact. Gore and Hunter were getting holes ripped open for them.

Can't go against Gore though if putting team together. Dude is 49er hero.


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Gore and Hunter were getting holes ripped open for them.



Ugggghhh!! U would have to remind me of that. That, and our WR's catching some darn balls are the two corrections I'll be dying to see in game two.


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[quote="BlueThunder"]No more or less than we are of the Seahawks. This 9er fan was very respectful, and gave a fairly accurate opinion. Just 'cause they're not a Seahawks fan doesn't mean they're an asshole.quote]

Right, but being a Ninners fan does. ;) I kid, I kid.

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Hawkscanner wrote:
DMH42 wrote:
Tough, physical game. I think it's just a glimpse of what we have coming in the future. This kind of football is awesome to see. Lots of respect to the Hawks. Y'all have a good team. Things I think after seeing this (will keep it short)
- Niners have best Oline in NFL, no one else close
- Niners have best LBs in NFL, no one else close
- Hawks have best secondary in NFL, no on else close
- both teams have top 5 Dlines
- both teams have stable of tough runningbacks (Lynch and Gore were warriors) can't believe Buffalo let him go
- both teams could use some more WR talent. Although I think Niners Wrs core if including VD Are pretty good, just outclassed in this game by Hawks secondary
- both teams have questions at qb. Although hawks have more of developmental issue that has good chance of improving. Niners know what they have in Smith. If he keeps turning ball over, he will be riding bench. IMO, Niners with Kaepernick will be VERY dangerous team.

Can't wait for the war coming in seattle in December. I have feeling it will be very meaningful game. Will come down to execution, minimizing mistakes and who wants it more. Good luck on rest of the season gentleman.


As MOST people have said here -- you most certainly are welcome. Contrary to popular belief of some ... there ARE actually 49ers fans out there who are intelligent and who aren't thugs. As I mentioned in the other 49er fan thread, my best friend is a 49ers fan. Our friendship goes back to the days of Montana and Rice and when the Seahawks were in the AFC West, so we've never thought of ourselves as being true rivals. It's always good when intelligent fans from other teams who aren't obnoxious or rude want to chime in. Here's my .02 on what you had to say ...

On the 49ers Offensive Line -- I'd have to agree that they are in the top 10. The absolute best though? I don't know. That Patriots team's offensive line was right up there. I said back in 2010 when the 49ers drafted Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati that this was a group to watch out for in a couple of years. That dominance was certainly on display on Thursday night. That O-Line is without a doubt the strength of the 49ers -- that's for sure.

On the 49ers LB's -- maybe, maybe. The Packers' Clay Matthews is special, but the rest of his group isn't nearly as dominant. Chicago's Lance Briggs and Brian Urlacher aren't what they used to be. I'd say this Seahawks group IMO is definitely up there in the Top 10. K.J. Wright and Navorro Bowman are virtually the same guy. And it was former 49er fullback Michael Robinson who called rookie MLB Bobby Wagner a young Patrick Willis. But as far as the Niners LB's being the absolute best -- yeah, I might buy that.

On the Seahawks Secondary -- As you probably know, Richard Sherman (the only one of the starting 4 who didn't make the Pro Bowl last year) just might be the best CB in all of football right now. Going in to this weekend, he was leading the league in Passes Defensed. With the way he's playing right now, it looks like he could effectively cover the wind itself if asked to. I'd have to agree the Hawks Secondary right now is the best in the NFL.

On the Defensive Lines -- Absolutely. The D-Lines for both teams are certainly right up there (though yours certainly showed up to play on Thursday while ours -- specifically Mebane -- not so much).

On Lynch and Gore -- both guys certainly ARE tough and warrior-like. But if I were starting a team ... and you said I could have either Gore or Lynch ... I'd take Lynch in a heartbeat. In many ways, he reminds me of an Earl Campbell in terms of his sheer force of will, his Terminator-like tenacity, and the level of aggression he runs with. Don’t get me wrong – Gore is very good. It’s just given a choice, I’d take Lynch.

On the 2 WR Corps – you’re absolutely right. I’ve been saying that for some time now that the 49ers receivers are a true Achilles Heel of this team … and it’s become painfully obvious that the same thing goes for the Seahawks. If I’m John Schneider, I’m pouring major resources in to upgrading both the WR Corps and the Offensive Line. Hopefully they’ll have as good a luck in this upcoming draft in those 2 areas as they’ve had in terms of the defense.

Completely agreed as far as the QB’s are concerned. My 49ers friend LOVES to defend Alex Smith and I always tell him the exact same thing. Alex Smith AT BEST is an accurate passer who is a game manager. But, if you put pressure on him ... or if you need him to actually WIN a game for you -- he'll choke. IMO, Kaepernick is your future starter at QB. If I’m Harbaugh, I look to groom him to take over as starter possibly as soon as next season. On Wilson, he’s obviously a rookie. Some of the struggles he’s had can be attributed to his O-Line and WR … but others can simply be chalked up to rookie-itis. As I wrote to the other 49er fan … all the hubbub surrounding Wilson’s height is just that – talk without any real evidence to show that it’s truly an issue.

I completely agree that the December game up here in Seattle is going to be a war. Given the struggles that Alex Smith had in his own home stadium, I find it hard to believe that he’s going to improve on his performance at the CLINK. I totally agree that it’s going to come down to who wants to win more. Until then, Adieu.


I can see some Campbell in Lynch. Dude was awesome on Thursday. No one runs on Niners like that. The one on one collisions with Justin Smith and Goldson were the reasons I love football (Goldson and Lynch are actually really good friends btw). It was tough running too. A lot of Lynch's runs came after contact. Gore and Hunter were getting holes ripped open for them.

Can't go against Gore though if putting team together. Dude is 49er hero.

I don't know man... If I had to build a team today, and those were my two choices, I'd have to go with Lynch. Up until probably two years ago I'd have chosen Gore hands down... But his durability is a concern for me. Still though, averaging 5.8ypc is outstanding!

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Gore is nursing sore ribs after #39 busted his ass. Hard. Rest up little man, you dont have to face this defense again until week 14.


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I think captain skybeard nailed it. We are currently like a smaller version of the niners. The 2 teams play in an identical way on both sides of the ball, but they are just a little better than us right now.

O-line...they are better at pass pro, quite similar in run blocking but niners have the edge still
D-Line: Both stout on the run, think they get a little more pressure than us on passing though

Recievers: Both groups suck, how much of it is down to play calling though and poor QB play?

QB: Think we hold the ace there, think Wislon is going to be a star in this league. Give him time and he will shine in my opinion

RB: Quite similar but id take Lynch over Gore

LB: Niners have the best in the league in my opinion and if wright/Wagner can come close ill be happy. I dont think they are far away and they are only a rookie and 2nd year guy and will improve, and have been stellar most of the year

Secondry: Hawks have the best in the league hands down

All in all that was a battle on both sides of the ball. In the end the difference was the 2nd half adjustments made by the niners and the dropped catches by the hawks. We are right on their coat tails in terms of quality, and I believe next year will see us move another step closer to them. We have one of if not the youngest team in the league and will hopefully improve further going forwad


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Gore is nursing sore ribs after #39 busted his ass. Hard. Rest up little man, you dont have to face this defense again until week 14.


Can't be that bad....I'm sure Gore will take it easy. Just as easy as week 16 not 14. Check your schedule first or did nervousness get to you already. See you then.


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I think captain skybeard nailed it. We are currently like a smaller version of the niners. The 2 teams play in an identical way on both sides of the ball, but they are just a little better than us right now.

O-line...they are better at pass pro, quite similar in run blocking but niners have the edge still
D-Line: Both stout on the run, think they get a little more pressure than us on passing though

Recievers: Both groups suck, how much of it is down to play calling though and poor QB play?

QB: Think we hold the ace there, think Wislon is going to be a star in this league. Give him time and he will shine in my opinion

RB: Quite similar but id take Lynch over Gore

LB: Niners have the best in the league in my opinion and if wright/Wagner can come close ill be happy. I dont think they are far away and they are only a rookie and 2nd year guy and will improve, and have been stellar most of the year

Secondry: Hawks have the best in the league hands down

All in all that was a battle on both sides of the ball. In the end the difference was the 2nd half adjustments made by the niners and the dropped catches by the hawks. We are right on their coat tails in terms of quality, and I believe next year will see us move another step closer to them. We have one of if not the youngest team in the league and will hopefully improve further going forwad


By the way coaching was a huge factor. 9ners have the edge big time even if it is just a mental edge. W-L record against Harbaugh says it all.
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Classy opening post. I do think SF has the best run blocking O-line in the NFL, but pass blocking I'd give to New England hands down. Brady might be the only visiting QB all year who regularly gets 4-5 seconds to pass in Century Link Field.


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LB are a push for both teams, other than that I agree



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Nice olive branch extended by an obvious non bay area niners fan. I lived in Sacramento for ten years, I can tell.

I agree with your observations regarding each teams strengths. Our line backer play has sagged for, welp, a long time. Your QB hit his ceiling when he was drafted so.....lets make a deal. Flynn for Willis. Straight up. Tomorrow.


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Gore is nursing sore ribs after #39 busted his ass. Hard. Rest up little man, you dont have to face this defense again until week 14.


Can't be that bad....I'm sure Gore will take it easy. Just as easy as week 16 not 14. Check your schedule first or did nervousness get to you already. See you then.



No man, I'm really nervous. So nervous I got the schedule wrong. Ya douche'.


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