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If we'd never drafted RW, which QB would have given us the best chance to win?
Matt Flynn 80%  80%  [ 48 ]
Tarvaris Jackson 20%  20%  [ 12 ]
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Post your reasons why you think one would be better than the other.

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I think Matt Flynn is better than Tarvaris Jackson in all likelihood. This is a stupid poll.


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Neither. Roll with Portis.


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I think Matt Flynn is better than Tarvaris Jackson in all likelihood. This is a stupid poll.

Trust me, I'm going somewhere with this.

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I think Matt Flynn is better than Tarvaris Jackson in all likelihood. This is a stupid poll.

Trust me, I'm going somewhere with this.


We gonna compare TJacks first 7 games with Wilson's?

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T-Jack was an almost dead-on .500 QB. Flynn on this offense was a turnover machine waiting to happen. I went with T-Jack.

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I think Matt Flynn is better than Tarvaris Jackson in all likelihood. This is a stupid poll.

Trust me, I'm going somewhere with this.


We gonna compare TJacks first 7 games with Wilson's?


I hope so because it's a good comparison.

This is a stupid poll. Nobody knows what Matt Flynn would be like as a starter on this team. There's no way to know.

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This is an OPINION poll Zeb. There doesn't NEED to be a way to know. I'm just asking what people think and WHY.

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This is an OPINION poll Zeb. There doesn't NEED to be a way to know. I'm just asking what people think and WHY.


This is a setup. You said yourself you were going somewhere with this. You got me interested, lay it on us.

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We know what T-Jack is capable of. Matt Flynn has more upside initially.


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I mean I assume it has something to do with Tarvaris playing better than Russell, but at least from the eyeball test Russell looks a hell of a lot better.

Edit: And for the record, Josh Portis is indeed the correct answer, good call guys :th2thumbs:


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I don't know what the point is getting at either, but I'll play. Flynn, no question about it.


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I don't know what the point is getting at either, but I'll play. Flynn, no question about it.


This, and it probably isn't even close.

The only thing I would give TJ the edge on is being able to survive. I think we would have at least 2-3 more sacks per game with Flynn or TJ under center (less with Flynn than TJ though), and I think that TJ is tougher than Flynn. Even if Flynn started the season we may very well be running with RW now.

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This is an OPINION poll Zeb. There doesn't NEED to be a way to know. I'm just asking what people think and WHY.


This is a setup. You said yourself you were going somewhere with this. You got me interested, lay it on us.

I'm waiting to here some good reasons WHY people think one would be better than the other. I'll "lay it on you" tomorrow after the poll has run its course. Patience paduwan :)

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This is an OPINION poll Zeb. There doesn't NEED to be a way to know. I'm just asking what people think and WHY.


This is a setup. You said yourself you were going somewhere with this. You got me interested, lay it on us.

I'm waiting to here some good reasons WHY people think one would be better than the other. I'll "lay it on you" tomorrow after the poll has run its course. Patience paduwan :)


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He is simply removing Russell Wilson from the formula or the Wilson vs Flynn bias people have. Then when you can not logically explain WHY w/ factual evidence Flynn would be better than TJax he will prove the Flynn believers forever wrong. He will show people just want to believe in Flynn w/ out any evidence.

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I forgot to give my reasons. To play by the rules my reason is that I felt T-Jack has shown his entire ability and there was no upside left. Flynn is still an unknown and therefor the upside is an unknown.


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Purely my opinion and only my opinion, no facts involved or implied...
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Why are we having a poll about a player that isn't even on this team this season?

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Why are we having a poll about a player that isn't even on this team this season?

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Didn't you see? It's a secret OP...If he tells you he may have to kill you shhhhhhhhhhhhhh :stirthepot:

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I would say the following.

If Tjax had started all 7 this year we would have been 3-4
If Flynn had started all 7 this year we would have been 2-5

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Its hard for me to be upset about something I have no interest in and can't imagine anyone a fan of todays team having any.

This is about as interesting as having a poll whether Wendy or Tinkerbell got it off with Peter Pan. (yes this is a trick question) But we have as much info about that as we do this poll.

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I have no idea how Matt Flynn would do as our starter this season so I can't honestly answer the poll. I do think that what we have right now in Russell Wilson is about what we had in TJ! last year. This difference is that RW is smarter and appears to have much more upside and potential where chances are TJ! isn't going to be able to give you much more than we've already seen.

I believe this is a playoff team no matter which one of those guys is under center.

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I can't wait to see what kind of crappy logic trap is being set up by this thread.


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I can't wait to see what kind of crappy logic trap is being set up by this thread.


He's gonna tell us where TJ! was at last year statistically and how close it is to where RW is right now and that will prove once and for all that Matt Flynn should indisputably be our starting QB.

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pinksheets wrote:
I can't wait to see what kind of crappy logic trap is being set up by this thread.


He's gonna tell us where TJ! was at last year statistically and how close it is to where RW is right now and that will prove once and for all that Matt Flynn should indisputably be our starting QB.

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I can't wait to see what kind of crappy logic trap is being set up by this thread.


He's gonna tell us where TJ! was at last year statistically and how close it is to where RW is right now and that will prove once and for all that Matt Flynn should indisputably be our starting QB.

This is where I post an animated GIF of the Scanners headsplosion.


Well hopefully he won't do that but it's hard to imagine anywhere else this thread could be going.

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For those wondering:

Tarvaris Jackson first 7 games last season: 2-5 record, 1556 yards passing, 6 TD, 9 INT
Russell Wilson first 7 games this season: 4-3 record, 1230 yards passing, 8 TD, 7 INT

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For those wondering:

Tarvaris Jackson first 7 games last season: 2-5 record, 1556 yards passing, 6 TD, 9 INT
Russell Wilson first 7 games this season: 4-3 record, 1230 yards passing, 8 TD, 7 INT


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This is a stupid thread.

What if we had drafted Tom Brady, do you think we should have started him?

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For those wondering:

Tarvaris Jackson first 7 games last season: 2-5 record, 1556 yards passing, 6 TD, 9 INT
Russell Wilson first 7 games this season: 4-3 record, 1230 yards passing, 8 TD, 7 INT


Pretty impressive for RW.

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For those wondering:

Tarvaris Jackson first 7 games last season: 2-5 record, 1556 yards passing, 6 TD, 9 INT
Russell Wilson first 7 games this season: 4-3 record, 1230 yards passing, 8 TD, 7 INT


Look at Jackson's last seven games last year

4-3 record, 1318 yards passing, 8 TD, 4 INT

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Except for yards passing, everything else improved. He even beat Chicago in Chicago.

I would have kept Jackson for at least one more year, because he did improve late in the season.

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Flynn's best asset would have been his quick short passes probably managing more first downs than run, run, 3rd and 5 pass Bevell has been calling. Although Flynn would get ride of the ball faster than T-Jax he can't take a hit as well and doesn't have the mobility the T-Jax has. I think we be a more pass oriented team with Flynn than T-Jax but I think Flynn would have thrown more picks as teams wouldn't be scared of his deep ball and would start jumping routes.

So I go with Flynn. I'd say with Flynn or T-Jax we would have probably beat Arizona, Flynn would have beat GB as he'd be motivated but T-Jax would have lost that game, and both would have lost vs NE.

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What is there to say? With Tjack there is not threat of a deep ball whatsoever and you know without a doubt he is going to throw at least 2 picks a game and not do anything in the 4th if we need him to.


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What is there to say? With Tjack there is not threat of a deep ball whatsoever and you know without a doubt he is going to throw at least 2 picks a game and not do anything in the 4th if we need him to.


With Flynn there wouldnt be one either. Plus I'm sure if Flynn was starting we'd have the same jokesters yelling for Wilson because the offense would be stale with the short passing game. Doesn't seem like some people will be happy until Wilson develops and reaches his peak, or we get the once in a lifetime guy which probably never will happen.

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Is it just me or does the concerns with Flynn's deep game get over-played or over-exaggerated? The way people talk around here so often about it you'd think the guy can only throw it 10 yards or less.


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"cant' throw deep", "has no mobility". Those are all myths propagated by Wilson supporters. In fact, Flynn doesn't have a great deep ball, but it's adequate enough for a secondary to respect it. And he is more mobile than most QB's, just not as mobile as TJack or Wilson. But whereas TJack would stand there holding onto the ball, Flynn gets rid of it quickly, though he's a Favre type gambler and he would probably throw more picks.

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"cant' throw deep", "has no mobility". Those are all myths propagated by Wilson supporters. In fact, Flynn doesn't have a great deep ball, but it's adequate enough for a secondary to respect it. And he is more mobile than most QB's, just not as mobile as TJack or Wilson. But whereas TJack would stand there holding onto the ball, Flynn gets rid of it quickly, though he's a Favre type gambler and he would probably throw more picks.

Agreed until the part I underlined. I don't know where you would have gotten that idea.


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And he is more mobile than most QB's, just not as mobile as TJack or Wilson. But whereas TJack would stand there holding onto the ball, Flynn gets rid of it quickly, though he's a Favre type gambler and he would probably throw more picks.


But this is exactly why I don't want him. A big part of the reason Seattle has been "in" every game so far is that Wilson has kept the lid on the turnovers (three of his picks came in one game). I don't think we'd have that advantage with Flynn, and I think it'd be the difference.

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And he is more mobile than most QB's, just not as mobile as TJack or Wilson. But whereas TJack would stand there holding onto the ball, Flynn gets rid of it quickly, though he's a Favre type gambler and he would probably throw more picks.


But this is exactly why I don't want him. A big part of the reason Seattle has been "in" every game so far is that Wilson has kept the lid on the turnovers (three of his picks came in one game). I don't think we'd have that advantage with Flynn, and I think it'd be the difference.

Is that based off the one INT Flynn threw last year (49 attempts)? It's two if we count the one he had in the Denver game that bounced off the hands of one of his wideouts. I assume we don't count that, since we don't count it when that happens to Russell.


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Nobody here honestly has any idea how Flynn would do starting in this offense and it appears that Coach believes that RW gives us a better chance to win not only now but also going forward into the future. Until HE changes his mind about that none of this conjecture even matters, not even in the tiniest little bit.

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Nobody here honestly has any idea how Flynn would do starting in this offense and it appears that Coach believes that RW gives us a better chance to win not only now but also going forward into the future. Until HE changes his mind about that none of this conjecture even matters, not even in the tiniest little bit.


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In fact, Flynn doesn't have a great deep ball, but it's adequate enough for a secondary to respect it.


How do we know he doesn't have a great deep ball? Because of fan "perception" that he has a weak arm?

I thought that 50 yard bomb TO dropped was right on the money. It's too bad Flynn had to force feed all those passes to TO that game. He has shown he was able to make all the throws accurately - short range, intermediate and deep, with the ability to throw receivers open and in stride.


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 Post subject: Re: Hypothetical poll: Flynn vs TJack
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Why is there a poll about TJack? Good riddance. He's gone. Thankfully. A chair is more productive on a football field than TJack.


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 Post subject: Re: Hypothetical poll: Flynn vs TJack
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Don't we run a version of the WCO? It is predicated on timing routes that develop quickly and require a QB to be able to throw receivers open and probably most important be able to read defenses and audible when needed. Tjack could not read a defense, throw receivers open and most of all, process the game fast enough to take advantage of timing routes.

Those timing routes that utilize a three step drop make your o-line look much better as well as the receivers. It also slows the opponents defense due to repeatedly getting burnt by guys getting behind them and maximizing YAC.

If your not sure if Flynn can do these things just go watch the GB vs Detroit game and remember he did that without their best receiver or RB.

This is a no brainer. Flynn by a landslide.

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 Post subject: Re: Hypothetical poll: Flynn vs TJack
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Don't we run a version of the WCO? It is predicated on timing routes that develop quickly and require a QB to be able to throw receivers open and probably most important be able to read defenses and audible when needed. Tjack could not read a defense, throw receivers open and most of all, process the game fast enough to take advantage of timing routes.

Those timing routes that utilize a three step drop make your o-line look much better as well as the receivers. It also slows the opponents defense due to repeatedly getting burnt by guys getting behind them and maximizing YAC.

If your not sure if Flynn can do these things just go watch the GB vs Detroit game and remember he did that without their best receiver or RB.

This is a no brainer. Flynn by a landslide.

What he said. This is the reason I wish they would have started Flynn over Wilson. It also would have given Wilson more time to learn how to read defenses & the speed of the pro game

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