Close to being a completely different game.

manders2600":3gaw47v5 said:

Hollandhawk":3gaw47v5 said:

Alex Smith's interception also came on a 3rd down after a helmet-to-helmet hit on the backup QB that was not called, but would have resulted in a first-and goal inside the 5 yard line.

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Wut? He was running the ball. We call helmet to helmet on running plays now?

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Leading with the crown of the helmet, or "spearing" while making no attempt to "wrap up" is most definitely a personal foul. You could also make the argument that at the point the defender lowered his head, the backup QB was "defenseless", as he was being taken to the ground from behind.

Either way, there were a large number of non-calls that went in Seattle's favor without that play.

The point being that this was close to being a completely different game if Seattle's receivers catch every ball thrown their way, just as it was close to being a completely different game if the refs had made every call.

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CodeWarrior":2kfdw12x said:

manders2600":2kfdw12x said:

Hollandhawk":2kfdw12x said:

Wut? He was running the ball. We call helmet to helmet on running plays now?

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Leading with the crown of the helmet, or "spearing" while making no attempt to "wrap up" is most definitely a personal foul. You could also make the argument that at the point the defender lowered his head, the backup QB was "defenseless", as he was being taken to the ground from behind.

Either way, there were a large number of non-calls that went in Seattle's favor without that play.

The point being that this was close to being a completely different game if Seattle's receivers catch every ball thrown their way, just as it was close to being a completely different game if the refs had made every call.

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You really want a flag for helmet to helmet there? At that point he is treated as a runner.

May I suggest tennis for you from here on out, madame? The game has been neutered enough as it is. Stop mollycoddling it.

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manders2600":1qk0qxhf said:

Leading with the crown of the helmet, or "spearing" while making no attempt to "wrap up" is most definitely a personal foul. You could also make the argument that at the point the defender lowered his head, the backup QB was "defenseless", as he was being taken to the ground from behind.

Either way, there were a large number of non-calls that went in Seattle's favor without that play.

The point being that this was close to being a completely different game if Seattle's receivers catch every ball thrown their way, just as it was close to being a completely different game if the refs had made every call.

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camdawg":14knv10z said:

manders2600":14knv10z said:

Leading with the crown of the helmet, or "spearing" while making no attempt to "wrap up" is most definitely a personal foul. You could also make the argument that at the point the defender lowered his head, the backup QB was "defenseless", as he was being taken to the ground from behind.

Either way, there were a large number of non-calls that went in Seattle's favor without that play.

The point being that this was close to being a completely different game if Seattle's receivers catch every ball thrown their way, just as it was close to being a completely different game if the refs had made every call.

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This is where Pierre Thomas would like to point out the hypocrisy of the 49er Nation. Had Donte Whitner not made a helmet to helmet hit on Thomas to save a touchdown and force a turnover, you lose to the Saints in the divisional round last year.

What's that? The NFL called that hit legal? Okay...please explain to me what that play should NOT have been flagged, but the one in last night's game SHOULD have been flagged.

Just like it's fine to complain to the league about us, but bush league when the Giants do it about you.

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dsquid":4vy503mb said:

manders2600":4vy503mb said:

Of course, if any of the PI or holding non-calls are made, or the face-mask on Alex Smith, all of which went in the Seahawks' favor, it could be a completely different game in the other direction. The same could be said if San Francisco doesn't essentially give up a possession by running three straight times to force Seattle to burn their time-outs.

Just saying . . .

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The effect of any of those plays seem a lot less stark than a drop at the 5 yard line or a key first down pickup that puts us in FG range.

It's also hard to substantiate the effect of a hot start by a rookie QB being squandered and the loss of momentum that occurred. The Seahawks were dominating the first half and had way too little to show for it.

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VHawk":2aqpmsuy said:

You 9'er hoes are as bad as Packer bitches,you think you are entitled to every call on the field.Just shut up already!The fact you are nit picking every call or missed call shows you are worried we are a more physical team.Dont be SCURRED!!

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manders2600":3dw2kqza said:

VHawk":3dw2kqza said:

You 9'er hoes are as bad as Packer bitches,you think you are entitled to every call on the field.Just shut up already!The fact you are nit picking every call or missed call shows you are worried we are a more physical team.Dont be SCURRED!!

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Yep. Super worried, after last night, that Seattle has a more physical team. :roll:
:sarcasm_off:

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The Radish":40w88shl said:

NinerDawg":40w88shl said:

Smith's interception was all Smith......

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Very much like Wilson's was all Wilson. Into triple coverage and high arced letting the defense get there before the receiver.

:les:

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manders2600":3rphpikm said:

Of course, if any of the PI or holding non-calls are made, or the face-mask on Alex Smith, all of which went in the Seahawks' favor, it could be a completely different game in the other direction. The same could be said if San Francisco doesn't essentially give up a possession by running three straight times to force Seattle to burn their time-outs.

Just saying . . .

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manders2600":181j20h2 said:

He is certainly treated as a runner, but both "spearing" and helmet-to-helmet on a defenseless player are valid penalties in that situation, and typically get called.

Anyway, the point was not that I "wanted" that particular penalty, but to illustrate, in general, that Seattle ended up getting quite a few lucky breaks with the officiating, and that to simply say, "We would have won except for a few drops" is silly.

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manders2600":3g9yt0tu said:

...and that to simply say, "We would have won except for a few drops" is silly.

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