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I remember the slow start.. Then all of a sudden the team clicked in this gear that I have never seen before..


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Our offense still has a long, long way to go. It needs to be more consistent and cut down on the mistakes. Lots of progress in this game, though, and that's a good sign.

Don't be surprised to see a step or two back on Thursday, though. That 49ers D is a completely different animal than what the Seahawks just faced.

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I thought that power ranking graph thread I've been seeing was kind of a funny anomaly but it's a damn eerie coincidence what is happening now. Got to get rolling on the road though to match that 05 magic!

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Our offense still has a long, long way to go. It needs to be more consistent and cut down on the mistakes. Lots of progress in this game, though, and that's a good sign.

Don't be surprised to see a step or two back on Thursday, though. That 49ers D is a completely different animal than what the Seahawks just faced.


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Where's the line graph?!


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Our offense still has a long, long way to go. It needs to be more consistent and cut down on the mistakes. Lots of progress in this game, though, and that's a good sign.

Don't be surprised to see a step or two back on Thursday, though. That 49ers D is a completely different animal than what the Seahawks just faced.


Yeah, but their offense is a day old turd sandwich compared to the defense we just played. I still like our odds. This team is walking with a swagger right now.

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the graph thread won't be possible until tomorrow, when the latest nfl.com power rankings come out.

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We have the defense to take us to the Superbowl, but our offense will need to get a lot better.

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Our offense still has a long, long way to go. It needs to be more consistent and cut down on the mistakes. Lots of progress in this game, though, and that's a good sign.

Don't be surprised to see a step or two back on Thursday, though. That 49ers D is a completely different animal than what the Seahawks just faced.


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I thought that power ranking graph thread I've been seeing was kind of a funny anomaly but it's a damn eerie coincidence what is happening now. Got to get rolling on the road though to match that 05 magic!


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Wtb graph thread



Oh, you're talking about the thread I started a few weeks ago...

http://seahawks.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=52128&start=0

here's the graph...

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Is it also beginning to feel a lot like 2010? Through 6 games in 2010 we were 4-2 going 3-0 at home and 1-2 on the road (we were also 1-1 in the division, whereas now we're 0-2). Yeah yeah, this defense is better and it's our third year in the schemes and all that. I know. My point is, let's not go crazy yet. 2005? I'm excited, too, but I also remember, NOT THREE WEEKS AGO, when we came off a win against Green Bay only to make fools of ourselves in St. Louis.

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Here is last week's chart, it should be updated tomorrow: http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/rankings/tr ... e-seahawks

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yes in 2005 we had a better offense but we didnt have a defense that came close to this one. yes we had 50 sacks that year but we gave up a lot of yardage


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I think by the end of the '13 season, this team will be better than our '05 team. In fact, much better.

Attitude and toughness the 05 team lacked. Hutch was the soul of that team (IMO) and now every other player plays with the same controlled anger that Hutch played with. That carries us deep. More and better FAs will want to play here in Egypt. This team has shed that soft image that we were stuck with and that will be the difference. If you were a top-tier free agent WR, would you rather play for us.. or against us? LOL.

Our draft class for next year? Oh man...I can't wait. I can't recall a draft in the history of this franchise that we enter with such freedom. BPA 1-7, I say. Thanks for keeping our seat warm, SF.


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Hey, someone posted the Debbie Downer pic. Is there a Predictable Priscilla meme out there?

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I keep wanting to sing that to the tune of: "it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas"

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I remember the slow start.. Then all of a sudden the team clicked in this gear that I have never seen before..


Disagree. We were blowing people out in 2005. We have won or lost these games (with the exception of Dallas) by a few points. 2005 team was an offensive powerhouse. 2012 team is really good but really raw...

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The 2005 defense only gave up 16.9 pts/G, good for 7th in the NFL.

They were 5th against the run and 1st in sacks.

The 2005 defense was a pretty good defense.

Offensively these two Seahawk teams don't even compare.


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I remember the slow start.. Then all of a sudden the team clicked in this gear that I have never seen before..


Disagree. We were blowing people out in 2005. We have won or lost these games (with the exception of Dallas) by a few points. 2005 team was an offensive powerhouse. 2012 team is really good but really raw...


Our '05 offense was amazing ... no question. But we weren't blowing teams out, by and large. We won, what, 3 or 4 games on very late and sometimes long FGs, courtesy of old JB.

At least, that's my recollection.

Later in the season, though, we seemed unstoppable on offense. Especially SA runs inside the opponent 10-yard line. Money, baby!


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For me, 2005 felt like 2005 when we dismantled the Eagles on MNF. A prime time game on the road that most pundits thought would be a tough battle. If we can do the same to the 49ers this week, then perhaps 2012 will feel a lot like 2012 in a future post as well.


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I remember the slow start.. Then all of a sudden the team clicked in this gear that I have never seen before..


Disagree. We were blowing people out in 2005. We have won or lost these games (with the exception of Dallas) by a few points. 2005 team was an offensive powerhouse. 2012 team is really good but really raw...


Our '05 offense was amazing ... no question. But we weren't blowing teams out, by and large. We won, what, 3 or 4 games on very late and sometimes long FGs, courtesy of old JB.

At least, that's my recollection.

Later in the season, though, we seemed unstoppable on offense. Especially SA runs inside the opponent 10-yard line. Money, baby!


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Week Date Opponent Result Game site Record Recap Attendance
1 September 11, 2005 at Jacksonville Jaguars L 26-14 ALLTEL Stadium 0-1 Recap 65,204
2 September 18, 2005 Atlanta Falcons W 21-18 Qwest Field 1-1 Recap 66,030
3 September 25, 2005 Arizona Cardinals W 37-12 Qwest Field 2-1 Recap 64,843
4 October 2, 2005 at Washington Redskins L 20-17 (OT) FedEx Field 2-2 Recap 90,215
5 October 9, 2005 at St. Louis Rams W 37-31 Edward Jones Dome 3-2 Recap 65,707
6 October 16, 2005 Houston Texans W 42-10 Qwest Field 4-2 Recap 66,196
7 October 23, 2005 Dallas Cowboys W 13-10 Qwest Field 5-2 Recap 67,046
8 Bye
9 November 6, 2005 at Arizona Cardinals W 33-19 Sun Devil Stadium 6-2 Recap 43,542
10 November 13, 2005 St. Louis Rams W 31-16 Qwest Field 7-2 Recap 67,192
11 November 20, 2005 at San Francisco 49ers W 27-25 Monster Park 8-2 Recap 63,590
12 November 27, 2005 New York Giants W 24-21 (OT) Qwest Field 9-2 Recap 67,102
13 December 5, 2005 at Philadelphia Eagles W 42-0 Lincoln Financial Field 10-2 Recap 67,637
14 December 11, 2005 San Francisco 49ers W 41-3 Qwest Field 11-2 Recap 66,690
15 December 18, 2005 at Tennessee Titans W 28-24 The Coliseum 12-2 Recap 69,149
16 December 24, 2005 Indianapolis Colts W 28-13 Qwest Field 13-2 Recap 67,855
17 January 1, 2006 at Green Bay Packers L 23-17 Lambeau Field 13-3 Recap 69,928

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We are even following the trend for power rankings in 2005.. eerie.


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It’s hard to compare teams from different eras and time may have left a favorable glow on the ’05 season but…

The reality is the only thing they had in common at week six was their record. We really had a MUCH more congenial schedule in ’05 and hindsight lets us tell how good/bad those teams we won/lost against really were.

By week six we had lost two games against the only winning teams on our schedule the 12-4 Jaguars and the 10-6 Redskins, both on the road. We scored 14 points and 17 points respectfully and lost by 12 points in Jacksonville and 6 points in Washington.

The only team close to a winning record (in those first six games) was a home win against the 8-8 Falcons which we barely beat by 3 and only scored 21 points. The rest of the schedule helped immensely to our overall stats in scoring 37 points each against the 5-11 Cardinals and the 6-10 Rams and 42 points against the 2-14 Texans.

Besides beating up on the “NFC Worst” the ’05 team never really went on a scoring binge until the shutout win against the 6-10 Eagles, Monday Night, on the road in week 13. In the end they only beat three more teams with winning records a 3 point win over the 9-7 Cowboys at home in week 7, the now infamous New York overtime game at the Clink in week 12, and another very satisfying home win against the 14-2 Colts.

All in all that ’05 team only played five teams with winning records that year, lost two, and only beat one by more than three points and that was in week 16. While it’s not for certain yet, except for the Panthers, we may have already played five teams that end up with winning records; with an offense that has yet to get both their feet on the ground…

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It’s hard to compare teams from different eras and time may have left a favorable glow on the ’05 season but…

The reality is the only thing they had in common at week six was their record. We really had a MUCH more congenial schedule in ’05 and hindsight lets us tell how good/bad those teams we won/lost against really were.

By week six we had lost two games against the only winning teams on our schedule the 12-4 Jaguars and the 10-6 Redskins, both on the road. We scored 14 points and 17 points respectfully and lost by 12 points in Jacksonville and 6 points in Washington.

The only team close to a winning record (in those first six games) was a home win against the 8-8 Falcons which we barely beat by 3 and only scored 21 points. The rest of the schedule helped immensely to our overall stats in scoring 37 points each against the 5-11 Cardinals and the 6-10 Rams and 42 points against the 2-14 Texans.

Besides beating up on the “NFC Worst” the ’05 team never really went on a scoring binge until the shutout win against the 6-10 Eagles, Monday Night, on the road in week 13. In the end they only beat three more teams with winning records a 3 point win over the 9-7 Cowboys at home in week 7, the now infamous New York overtime game at the Clink in week 12, and another very satisfying home win against the 14-2 Colts.

All in all that ’05 team only played five teams with winning records that year, lost two, and only beat one by more than three points and that was in week 16. While it’s not for certain yet, except for the Panthers, we may have already played five teams that end up with winning records; with an offense that has yet to get both their feet on the ground…


This is a really good post. Thank you! After thinking about it, I do recall having some feelings about our inability to close out teams (Holmgrenism) and allowing inferior opponents to hang in there and eek out victories. Some of those games really stunk - I recall many up by 10 1st halves followed by consecutive 3 and outs in the 3rd qtr.

Don't get me wrong - that was a great team for us - in comparison to this team I do think it has a bunch of excellent attributes. Defense, running game, and clutch offense. That's a terrific recipe!

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Is it also beginning to feel a lot like 2010? Through 6 games in 2010 we were 4-2 going 3-0 at home and 1-2 on the road (we were also 1-1 in the division, whereas now we're 0-2). Yeah yeah, this defense is better and it's our third year in the schemes and all that. I know. My point is, let's not go crazy yet. 2005? I'm excited, too, but I also remember, NOT THREE WEEKS AGO, when we came off a win against Green Bay only to make fools of ourselves in St. Louis.



This is nothing like 2010, IMO. In both our losses to start that year we lost by 17 points and were quite dominated by Denver and St. Louis They year our 2 losses came down to the final drive. We are much more competive this year than in 2010. Remember also the San Deigo game-- Only reason we won was because of a superhero performance by Leon Washington with 2 returns for TD. Our defense was pretty poor that year. Our offense wasn't much better than what we got now..

Interesting Note-- 2012 Points for= 110, Points against= 93, a +17 differential.
2010 Points for= 120, Points against= 107, a +13 differential.


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In all actuality the only thing the ’05 team had over this one, was a veteran offense that could put up a lot of points against much inferior teams, a much easier schedule (I think so far), and a RB with a nose for the endzone.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to have that offense on this team, but the stats skew how good they really were, that and our memories wax fondly on that season… :)

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