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then kudos to Hawk fans most crowds you "figurtively" punch the team in the nose with 2 quick scores and it is like a church all of a sudden... I am sure you know what I mean.

Defo. I've been to Cowboys Stadium to see the hawks twice now. Both games the Cowboys won, and you could hear a pin drop almost the entire time.

I went to Arrowhead to see the 'Hawks in '07 i believe. Might have been '06. THAT was loud and awesome.

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Even if an LB is on the TE, this d has a knack for swarming to wherever the ball ends up and limiting big plays. Earl Thomas has outstanding range and even though he is a rookie, Wagner has shown to be able to close quickly in space AND make the tackle he needs to. I believe that he has 4.4 speed and it does translate in game. I think that Wright is the other Nickel LB and he has been playing very well even as a rookie last year. The Pats will probably catch Wagner out of position a bit, but maybe not....but he definately has the closing speed to make sure it doesn't result in a total breakdown in most cases.


In all of my posts I am not implying that The Hawks are just going to wipe the floor with the pats, or that they will completely dominate the pats o....if that were to happen though, I would only be mildly surprised though. I admit that it is a tall order and while the Hawks may have a bit of a weakness against the short passing game, the run game that the pats have found i am pretty confident will be squelched on sunday. I really feel that the Hawks d does have the ability to force the pats to be one dimensional and against about any other team I would have little doubt about the end result of being able to do that. Tom Brady will be the ultimate x factor for the pats this sunday. If he is able to get in a rythme(and I don't think big plays will be there very much) he could do just enough to get the Pats the win. The big X-factor for the Hawks will be the Offense. If Russell Wilson progresses beyond what he did last week I believe that the Hawks can actually win handily. If he plays as well as he did last week I feel the hawks can squeak out a win...if he plays like he did earlier in the season I will be wanting to pull my hair out all afternoon most likely but still not give out hope until the very end because I still feel like it could be close. I don't think that the Pats will be able to contain Lynch. If they focus on the run game they may stifle it in spots but there will still be some runs that beastmode will find a way to punish the Pats D. If the hawks get their run game going well. All of us hawks fans may not really care that there is nothing to talk about with Wilson's performance(and by this I also mean not having any mistakes that will be ridden to death on here) if that happens.

I am really sad I will not be able to catch this game.......I hope it is a great game with no major injuries on either side and may the best team win(the hawks ).

One thing to note about the Pats D is it is pretty dang good against the Run, And after facing Flacco and Manning , I personally don't see Wilson lighting the Secondary up. One because your O be run run and run some more... I do expect see a few fumbles though and perhaps an INT or two.. Pats been scary good at this so far this year.

As for your D, if BRADY is the X factor, thats a rather dangerous X Factor. I mean a 1st ballot HOFer is the guy you hope doesnt beat you? I think the TRUE X Factor be the Pats O line v Hawks D line. Brady gets some time Pats win, if Hawks have constant pressure a much closer game and perhaps a pats loss.

Bill's specialty is taking away the offense's best weapon. For us, that is Marshawn. However, that has been the strategy for all 5 teams that have played the Hawks, and none of them have taken him out of the game plan completely.

It's almost a rule, we do not win games where we give up more than 19 points. Now, to New England fans, that sounds like an easy number. Seeing as we have given precisely ZERO touchdowns in our last two road games, I reasonably confident we can do a respectable job of limiting that offense here at home where our defense rages.

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Scott,

Now look at the OFFENSE you faced the last three in order were 21st,29th,21st. AND you have not faced one better than 16th and pleasse thats a ROMO led team that guys a sanchez clone.

As for no team has done that yet to Lynch, I heard the same about Spiller from Bills fans ("the top running back in the league".. "has more yards per carry than anyone else" yada yada.) Fact is this is a QB league now and to constantly win you need your QB to step up.. question is will Wilson step up on Sunday when Lynch is limited to open things up for your RB?

You summed up the game plan. Think Giants pass rush. I also expect our corners to play a lot of man press, and our 3 safety sets to try and bracket Gronk/Welker.

I half wonder if we will see much from Gronk anyway, we have more length in our linebackers and secondary than you have ever seen. In our Bandit set we could feature one linebacker and up to 4 secondary players 6'3" or taller.

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The reason I didn't put the O-line is because whether or not the o-line plays well or badly, Brady will be where the play has the final chance to succeed. Brady has had an awesome career and continues to play well for the most part, but when he is faced with a truly great defense..it has been shown that his offenses can be contained enough for the other team to get the win. If the pressure from the Hawks D gets to Brady I feel confident that the Hawks are going to come out of a hard fought game the victors..but even with pressure and even with bad o-line play. Brady, being one of the greats could still get his passes through in the narrowest of windows and find a way to get those completions even if the d is playing lights out..if this happens and he gets enough of them going..that is going to get that pendulum swinging in the Pats favor.

Yea this game is going to come down to how much pressure and disruption we can get on Brady. We are stout v the run, great out wide, on Sunday we will have challnges to our backers in coverage on welker, gronk and possibly Hernandez. We cant be playing soft zones here and giving one of the best QB's ever time to pick a pass as he will pick us apart.

Brady and Bellacheck have seen and done it all, and been to every ground in the league and done the business, and I dont think the CLink will phase them to be honest. It culd have an impact in charging up our players though, and some issues for the pats with hearing calls and audibles as it does for most teams.

All in all it will be a tall task for the hawks v this offence, but we definitley have one of the best d's to be able to do this

As for the ratings on the offences, id suggest the packers, cowboys and Panthers, regardless of current rankings, all have very explosive and dangerous offences and we done excellent v them all. The packers offence is quite similar to the pats and they also hve a brady clone in rodgers. My worry is the adjustments made by the pack 2nd half allowed them to dink and dunk all the way up the field, I forsee the pats doing this for large chunks of the game, thats if we dont get pressure up the middle to disrupt it....A real chess match on the cards

Scotte,

PLEASE PLEASE Show that Bandit set.. I have seen more teams try THAT tactic to stop the Pats on O. so them do it in DENVER,BUFFALO, TITANS,and Ravens.. and the Pats ran all over them a secondary guy does not like being hit by a TE and the Pats have very good bloacking WR.. That set is golden for 10-15 yard runs almost every time!

The Packers usually have a great O, but it is NOT like the Pats. Pats is much more underneath and TE heavy where the Pack is more WR and stretch the field type team. Both very good but very different in ways going about things.

Aothe thing NE has that the pack hasnt had is a running game. Even if not effective your D will have to respect it as it can break long runs at any moment.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. The Seahawks are not your average backfield of midgets.

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Seriously, Patsfan, you need to do some research. Our backfield are monsters.

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Personally I am hoping that Bellicheck is so pissed at Welker for his comment the other night that he benches him for the game. The quick plays to Welker are what scares me the most. It is the type of plays that GB executed in the second half that could burn us big in this game. I do hope by getting enough pressure on Brady and jamming at the line we can do some damage but that is my concern for defense.

Like others have said the big thing on offense is that the opposing defense will do a lot of shifting and weird looks. They may have a very conventional play but they will make it look like something completely new / strange to cause the interceptions.

Should be a good game - need the running game to get going to open up the play action pass...... also need a few less first and goal run, second and goal run, penalty, third and goal pass......... then kick fg from the 3 yard line instead of going for it and stopping them a la GB game

I'm not necessarily disagreeing that we may need to put up 24 points to win (although some of that could come from defense/special teams).

That said, yes our front four are scarier, yes our LBs are scarier, and yes our CBs are scarier. Don't believe me? Ask Romo, Rodgers, Newton, Bradford, or Skelton . Still don't believe me? Fine. I hope your players don't either because the shock will cause almost as many problems as the ass whooping itself.

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I no longer actively participate on this forum, but for this one I have to come out of the woodwork.

Seattle's secondary not only likes hitting TEs, they will actively seek out the contact. They are a big, physical group who thrive on contact and getting inside people's heads.

Maybe your secondary guys don't like being hit, but our guys will do it all day long and get the better of the hitting in most cases.

Don't let the ability and quickness of this defense fool you into thinking they are not physical. They are the most physical secondary in the NFL.

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The Pats clearly have a good team year in and year out. The Hawks, unfortunately, have a different history. Yes the Pats have a great offense (#1) and the Hawks have a great defense (#4). Conversely the Pats D isn't all that great (#24) and the Hawks O isn't either (#25). It would appear to be an even match up with the Hawks having the 12th Man in their pocket.

Looking a little closer at who the Pats have played compared with the Hawks may take a little luster off the Pats ranking. The Pats numbers are a little skewed by a couple of games against a bad Titans team and a bad Bills team. Not to mention that Buffalo, Tennessee and Denver are in the bottom 10 teams in rush defense. Seattle has faced only 1 team in the bottom 10 (Carolina). The Pats have also faced 3 teams in the bottom 10 for passing D as well (Buff, Tenn, Balt). Seattle has yet to face any in the bottom 10 until this weekend when the Pats come to town.

Should be interesting.

BTW the vaunted Baltimore D of yesteryear is #26 in total team defense.

To your point we have the biggest secondary in the NFL. Our backs like to hit TE's because they're the same size.

This Defense made Whitten, Smith and others drop passes due to him hearing footsteps. We are physical and by halftime, the offenses get tired of getting hit.

Seahawk fans see the Patriots all of the time on primetime and sportscenter. The Hawks don't even warrant a short clip on NFL Primetime so you probably underestimate our Defense. We know that our Defense can stop that Patriot offense. The real question is: Can the Patriots defense stop our less-than-pedestrian passing offense? Your secondary is very sketchy and I believe Wilson will be up for the task. Hawks win 24-14 if we can get out of our own way (drive killing penalties).

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