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Post subject: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? (Bumped)  Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:29 pm |
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What do you think?
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:30 pm |
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I answered "best QB starts" based on the assumption that Flynn's "sore arm/shoulder" was indeed impacting his ability to play.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:30 pm |
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Pretty sure we had a competition already.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:31 pm |
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I'm not 100% sure Wilson is the best option anymore. But i am 100% sure that since we chose Wilson to start we now need to stick wtih him and let him grow regardless of growing pains.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:31 pm |
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You don't pull a rookie QB after 4 starts, especially not in our situation. Sure, there's a chance that Flynn comes in and lights it up but it's a big gamble. Much bigger gamble than a friggin onside kick.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:31 pm |
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Stick with the Rookie let him develop. Too late to put the rabbit back in the hat.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:32 pm |
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I have more faith in Wilson at this point... it's Carroll and Bevell that frustrate me.
We're not putting Wilson in a place where he can succeed with our current play-calling and scheme.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:33 pm |
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JSeahawks wrote: I'm not 100% sure Wilson is the best option anymore. But i am 100% sure that since we chose Wilson to start we now need to stick wtih him and let him grow regardless of growing pains. Ditto. _________________ @SeahawkGreg "I will be thrilled with 10 wins.... If we win 14 games, I will tattoo my nuts green and blue!" -- 13thMan
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:35 pm |
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TAKE HASSELBECK OUT NOW, HE'S TERRIBLE, WHERE'S DILFER?
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:35 pm |
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RW is a rookie and has all the time in the world to develop.
You have to see what Flynn can do. It would be foolish not to.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:37 pm |
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cesame wrote: RW is a rookie and has all the time in the world to develop.
You have to see what Flynn can do. It would be foolish not to. Do you think Flynn is better at handing the ball off to Lynch? More chemistry with feeding the ball to Turbin? Is he tall enough to see over the line and see that our WRs are being covered? Does he ignore play calls by Bevell?
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:41 pm |
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SonicHawk wrote: cesame wrote: RW is a rookie and has all the time in the world to develop.
You have to see what Flynn can do. It would be foolish not to. Do you think Flynn is better at handing the ball off to Lynch? More chemistry with feeding the ball to Turbin? Is he tall enough to see over the line and see that our WRs are being covered? Does he ignore play calls by Bevell? This says it all. Russell Wilson has NO accountability here.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:42 pm |
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bestfightstory wrote: SonicHawk wrote: cesame wrote: RW is a rookie and has all the time in the world to develop.
You have to see what Flynn can do. It would be foolish not to. Do you think Flynn is better at handing the ball off to Lynch? More chemistry with feeding the ball to Turbin? Is he tall enough to see over the line and see that our WRs are being covered? Does he ignore play calls by Bevell? This says it all. Russell Wilson has NO accountability here. I don't think RW has played well at all. I also don't think that anybody has helped him. I also don't think Flynn would do any better or they would let him do any better.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:42 pm |
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This offense is as basic as it gets.
You can pull Wilson and start him later without any difference in offensive play calling.
We're not losing anything by starting Flynn.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:44 pm |
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SonicHawk wrote: cesame wrote: RW is a rookie and has all the time in the world to develop.
You have to see what Flynn can do. It would be foolish not to. Do you think Flynn is better at handing the ball off to Lynch? More chemistry with feeding the ball to Turbin? Is he tall enough to see over the line and see that our WRs are being covered? Does he ignore play calls by Bevell? Can you say without a single shred of doubt that Russell Wilson is better than Matt Flynn?
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:47 pm |
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sammyc521 wrote: We're not putting Wilson in a place where he can succeed with our current play-calling and scheme. He cannot run the "vanilla offense" what makes you think he can run the full boat?
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:48 pm |
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m0ng0 wrote: sammyc521 wrote: We're not putting Wilson in a place where he can succeed with our current play-calling and scheme. He cannot run the "vanilla offense" what makes you think he can run the full boat? To me its not as much about whether we're going vanilla or whether we're going exotic, its about whether we allow him to move around, improvise and be Russell Wilson. Thats what we saw on the first drive, which was masterful. I feel they're stifling his creativity. _________________
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:51 pm |
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While I believe in letting rookie QBs spend a year on the bench, I can't disagree a whole lot with what we did given our QB situation and how good Wilson looked in (completely meaningless and way overvalued) the preseason.
The 2nd best thing to letting a rookie ride the bench is starting early, and then sitting. Gets to see how he handled certain situations, and then see how someone else did it. Gives time to reflect, whereas a starter is always preparing for the upcoming opponent. So I don't mind benching Wilson.
That said, I decided before TC that whoever won the job would get six weeks before I'd pitch removing them. Wilson hasn't done anything egregious enough to change my mind - he's just struggling like a rookie, and in many ways better than a rookie. I'm really not confident than Flynn would do a whole lot better, although I'm not against finding out at some point this season.
Another reason to stick Wilson in is that I cannot say with any degree of confidence whether or not Wilson is our long-term QB - that's a question we don't need to know now, but we need to know it by the end of the year. I want to see RW grow, and if we try to find improvement over a 4 game sample size, we're just being silly.
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 2:54 pm |
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ive seen enough, flynn
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Post subject: Re: 12th man vote: QB for game 5? Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 3:05 pm |
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Compete for it in practice what have you got to lose? One of two things could happen:
1.) The added pressure makes Wilson better being he preforms better under pressure.
2.) He buckles under the pressure. in this case we don't want him.
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