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I just wanna forget about the transfer window and focus on the games. Arsenal started fast and then just flat out stopped when they shouldn't have in transfers, so basically, in both my mind and a lot of Arsenal fans minds, the board just sold RvP and Song to line their pockets.
 

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I thought the Dembele move by Spurs was the class of the last day... for anyone not named City.

With Liverpool, the news out is that Ayre overplayed his hand with Dempsey. Thought himself to cute and probably did not take to seriously the earlier tapping up allegations.

Either way, with the initial disappointment gone, Liverpool has added Borini, Assaidi, Yezil, Allen and Sahin. Not enough, but decent quality in that. They needed to have a bigger day, but in the end we have to remember that this is transition.... anyways heard Drogba's available...

Big game this morning
 

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Liverpool as sloppy as hell in possession for that goal. Good counter attack though.
 

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theENGLISHseahawk":2h2xvljy said:
Liverpool as sloppy as hell in possession for that goal. Good counter attack though.


unfortunate considering how well they have played.well done by Podolski, good early find and great work to return to the ball... Diaby may be the best player on the field right now.

Liverpool are lacking again in the final 3rd... Borini and Suarez are poor at the moment
 
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Apparently when Arsenal control the game, nothing happens. When they don't control possession, they score.
 

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Apparently when Arsenal control the game, nothing happens. When they don't control possession, they score.


classic counter attack soccer...

cant blame them, what threat has liverpool offered the goal?
 
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I can't help but feel that this win was somewhat satisfying. I will admit I was worried cause I'm not convinced Vito Mannone is that good. I think this match really showed just how much improved Arsenal's defense is, I know I said that already but Liverpool is a whole other level compared to Stoke and Sunderland. The Reds were missing it's lethalness but they were finding chances and Arsenal gave up very little room and cut off a lot of movement.
 

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Rodgers talking about possibly signing Michael Owen in his press conference apparently.
 

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A thought on Rodgers...

Swansea was the perfect club for him because for several years they'd built a structure based around passing & controlled possession under two different managers. When he arrived, it was very easy to implement his system because it was virtually already in place. He really just took it to the next level, won promotion and the rest is history. However - he's taken two jobs (Reading & Liverpool) where the system wasn't in place and needed time... years even... to change the culture and programme things into his vision. He didn't last very long at Reading because they weren't willing to be that patient. I'm concerned for his sake that Liverpool likewise won't be that patient. Today they looked like a team trying to do things his way but struggling because it's not second nature like it is at Swansea. If you appoint a manager like Brendan Rodgers you have to be prepared to give him 2-3 years to get it right, and even then you might only seen the early signs of promise.

He's just led Liverpool to their worst league start for 50 years. Will he get the time he needs? Big question mark there. And if he doesn't, the Liverpool fans should turn on the hopeless chuffs running their club. Appointing Daglish, letting him waste millions, appointing a long term manager and then giving him nothing to spend... they have to stick by Rodgers and let him build. Otherwise there was no point appointing him. I just wonder if they're willing to finish 10-15th to let that happen.
 

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theENGLISHseahawk":1n4fhvn1 said:
For starters, transfer deadline day is a frigging nightmare. Aside from the fact it's pointless, it also means an entire day on the phone asking about the latest bull shit rumour on Twitter. I wish transfers were banned.

Liverpool - Without doubt Brendan Rodgers is paying the price for the absolute shitload of money wasted by Daglish and co.

Spurs - Not convinced. Lloris is all right. Dempsey... meh. He's OK. I'm used to being more impressed with Spurs with their signings. Think they've taken a step back since Harry's bizarre departure.

Man City - Why? Why are you signing players for the sake of it?

Everton - class. A club that knows exactly what it's doing and does it well. No delusions.

Arsenal - Not done enough.

Sheff Wed - Jay Bothroyd and Martin Taylor in the bag. Going places.

I agree about the transfer window being a nightmare. I don't think a window of any kind is needed. Buy or sell as you please but players are still cup tied as they are now. Twitter has made everything even more of a nightmare. even just as a fan. Despite knowing that a rumour involving your club is 95% likely to be bollocks I still feel disappointed when you hear that it's not going to happen.

As for this window - agree about Liverpool & Arsenal.

Everton - I'll take your word for it. I know nothing about Naismith or Oviedo. Pienaar's alright. Spurs should have kept him but 'Arry ballsed that up for us, sending him back to Everton on loan right when we needed him.

City - Maicon was awful in the 2 games I saw him in against Spurs. Mancini obviously knows him but I wouldn't have thought he'd improve their team much. Don't know the other players bought.

Spurs - I thought we came out alright. Modric was never sticking around, regardless of who was managing the club, so our top priority had to be finding a replacement. I think Dembele brings a different skillset, but a comprehensive skill set nonetheless, and should be able to do a decent job. We really could have done with signing Moutinho as well though. I'm very happy about Lloris. He's a good keeper and more comfortable playing the ball with his feet than Friedel, which is something AVB's keepers need to be able to do. Friedel was never going to be a long term option and I don't think we could have done any better. The price was decent too. I wouldn't mind betting that Jack Butland would have cost a significant amount more than Lloris, De Gea was twice the price. Vertonghen should turn out to be a good buy. Sigurdsson looks a good player and Dempsey is a steal at £6m. He doesn't have van der Vaart's class but he can play for 90 minutes and score goals. Under Armour will be happy too. Not that that matters. Adebayor's good, although Llorente or Leandro would make me feel more confident.

Out of curiosity, which are the Spurs transfers in the past that you were more impressed by? van der Vaart is the obvious one. The Modric signing was pretty much universally slated by the English press as he was too small to play in the premier league. The signing of Walker (and Naughton) was obviously astute. Sandro's class. Who else? Nelsen, Saha, Gomes, Bent, Bentley, Friedel, dos Santos, Pavlyuchenko, Corluka, Pienaar, Cudicini, Kaboul, Krancjar, Assou-Ekotto, Bostock.... some have had more success than others, but I don't think Spurs are a club renowned for exceptional transfer nouse. I don't think we had a bad haul. We've got some depth now, certainly with the centre backs and midfielders anyway.

I didn't expect the team to get off to a great start, which is proving to be the case, but I think we'll be okay in the medium, long term. What became obvious in this window is that the owners are not prepared to spend money for the sake of it; the balance sheet ended up £11m in profit on Friday night. I think we've suffered in the transfer market by not qualifying for the Champions League. We should have done but we didn't. It is what it is. COYS!
 

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I've also just read that Levy was out Levy'd by Porto, ie raised the price after initially agreeing the fee (by £4m, which Levy then accepted, only to have Porto mess up the paperwork to the FA, hence Spurs seeking an extension. No idea if it's true, but it's from one of the few Spurs sources that tends to be pretty much on the money and not in the habit of making things up for the sake of it.
 

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Apparently Ronaldo is unhappy at Madrid. Time to invoke the 'special relationship' Levy!
 
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Hawkspur":1hyttgs4 said:
Apparently Ronaldo is unhappy at Madrid. Time to invoke the 'special relationship' Levy!

Yeah that'll happen, when pigs fly out of the devils ass while hell freezes over. Their "relationship" with Madrid isn't that special.
 

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Gatehawk":16lbgu2x said:
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Apparently Ronaldo is unhappy at Madrid. Time to invoke the 'special relationship' Levy!

Yeah that'll happen, when pigs fly out of the devils ass while hell freezes over. Their "relationship" with Madrid isn't that special.

Say what? There is no possible outcome to this that doesn't involve Cristiano Ronaldo in a Spurs shirt next weekend. I mean, we have a 'special relationship'.
 
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Turns out the reason for Ronaldo being unhappy is because his father died on September 2nd, 2005.
 

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Gatehawk":31h8ik65 said:
Turns out the reason for Ronaldo being unhappy is because his father died on September 2nd, 2005.
Ronaldo is unhappy because he has to play Barcelona 8 times a year and messi, xavi and iniesta repeatedly win awards over him.


That and he is a red devil at heart. He will return for fergies last season.

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Smurf":6820y21p said:
Gatehawk":6820y21p said:
Turns out the reason for Ronaldo being unhappy is because his father died on September 2nd, 2005.
Ronaldo is unhappy because he has to play Barcelona 8 times a year and messi, xavi and iniesta repeatedly win awards over him.


That and he is a red devil at heart. He will return for fergies last season.

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There is no need to be a dumbass and think that everytime a player is upset it's purely soccer reasons that's the cause. Look it up and you'll see that this past Sunday was the anniversary of his father's death, you'd be pretty emotional too if you were playing a game on the anniversary of the death of someone you care about.
 

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Gatehawk":1khfz9pz said:
Smurf":1khfz9pz said:
Gatehawk":1khfz9pz said:
Turns out the reason for Ronaldo being unhappy is because his father died on September 2nd, 2005.
Ronaldo is unhappy because he has to play Barcelona 8 times a year and messi, xavi and iniesta repeatedly win awards over him.


That and he is a red devil at heart. He will return for fergies last season.

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There is no need to be a dumbass and think that everytime a player is upset it's purely soccer reasons that's the cause. Look it up and you'll see that this past Sunday was the anniversary of his father's death, you'd be pretty emotional too if you were playing a game on the anniversary of the death of someone you care about.


Don't be a dumb ass and think that his unhappiness is an isolated one time incident. 6 months after he got to Madrid he was linked to a return to Old Trafford.

The dude is not as in love with Madrid as he thought he was.
 
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