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Gatehawk
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 12:53 pm |
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peachesenregalia wrote: INCORRECT Okay Mr. Expert, care to elaborate on why it's incorrect? Cause I don't see a reason why I might be wrong, and all that tells me is that you don't like my predictions. Last year you said I was wishful thinking about me predicting a 3rd place finish for Arsenal, but I was right? Hell I was right bout the Top 3's exact order.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:48 am |
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Pretty good opening day.
Always nice to see Liverpool get smashed
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:58 am |
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Jog on, Bill.
Liverpool were admittedly poor. I'm not happy to see so many players out of position. I don't think we have the personnel for a solid 4-3-3 like that. Suarez not putting away his chances is one thing, but he was basically the only one creating them. Downing is awful, Gerrard needs to step back, Borini was poor, Allen was a non-factor, lucas was way out of position. Rodgers needs to start putting players in position to enhance their strengths, not weaken them. First game, lots of lessons to be learned. WBA were great up front, and decently organized in the back. Liverpool's back 4 were shambolic, especially in the second half.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:17 am |
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I just finished watching the Arsenal game. Sunderland didn't even try today, but had almost as many decent shots on goal. I was watching while cooking and there was no commentary so my assessments may be well off, but Carzola looked very good, Giroud looked promising, despite a pretty poor miss, Gervinho has skills but lacks control when it comes to finishing, Podolski was a bit off the pace. Mertesacker didn't have to do much, but still didn't look convincing in defence.
They had absolutely no help from the crowd. As there was no commentary on my feed (living the dream!) you could hear the crowd pretty clearly, or you could have, if they'd bother to open their mouths. Poor effort.
It was still promising for Arsenal though. A few new faces settling in and most of the possession and territory, but Sunderland did sweet FA, passing poorly and hoofing it long out of the box all game, so it's hard to make a proper judgment. Except that Carzola looked good.
Oh, and Song's gone. Barcelona for £15 million.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:35 am |
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I watched the majority of the Arsenal match and it was a fairly good match by Arsenal. They were unfortunate not to score with the amount of shots they had. Sunderland played very good defense, which was really all they could do. The new signings were good, especially Cazorla who I think was man of the match. Podolski had some good chances but didn't finish them and Giroud was good as well. I will have to disagree with Hawkspur about Mertesacker, as I'm not sure if it was just me, but he almost looked faster. I still question Per's decision to push forward some of the time.
Sunderland on the other hand were way more worrisome with the lack of possession on the attacking half. They did have a great chance 5 minutes in but McClean shot straight at Szczesny. Most of their other chances were either shut down, or a bad pass or touch ruined it.
I liked how Arsenal played today, obviously I would have liked a win, but it looked like a better game than last season's opener. If the injured players comeback fit and stay that way it looks like it could be a good season.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:00 am |
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So while watching the Arsenal-Sunderland match this morning the announcers commented that starting this season the PL was requiring all pitches to be the same size. Anyone know why they made that change?
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Gatehawk
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:04 am |
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SeatownJay wrote: So while watching the Arsenal-Sunderland match this morning the announcers commented that starting this season the PL was requiring all pitches to be the same size. Anyone know why they made that change? This is the first time I've heard about that.
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Hawkspur
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:37 am |
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Bad result, bad not a bad start for Spurs. We restricted one of the league's best front lines to 2 goals from about our only mistakes in the game. We should have scored more, but such is life. The result highlighted our need to get the Modric nonsense over with and buy a striker and another midfielder. Defoe had a good game but I'd be happier with him coming on as an impact sub and we I'd prefer if we didn't need to start with Livermore too often at this stage.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:47 am |
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That was a great strike by Demba Ba
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 10:57 am |
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Yeah, it was. He's a good player alright. Newcastle have quietly assembled a whole lot of them.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:14 pm |
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Pleased to see Fulham thumping Norwich today to chants of, "Are you watching Clint Dempsey?"
Too many players spit the dummy out when they don't get their own way. If you sign a contract, it's the clubs perogative to turn down offers for you. Well played Fulham.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:49 pm |
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3 things I learned from the Arsenal-Sunderland match today:
1. The team isn't going to have a problem distributing the ball. 2. There wasn't enough action for the defense to have a definitive opinion on where they stand. 3. We are going to hear the RVP excuse for EVERYTHING and it isn't going to be Arsenal using it. Examples: If Arsenal missed a shot, "if that was RvP they would have scored". If Arsenal drew or lost, "If they had RvP, that would have turned out differently."
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:07 am |
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Watched Match of the Day last night and it was a great opening day; unfortunately for Spurs, Newcastle looked good, but if Spurs had another Striker other than Defoe, i'm not sure this would have been the result; however Ba and Cabaye are definately quality players! Swansea, well, stunned by their play, and Fulham aswell! Rodgers and Liverpool? Teething problems possibly, but not helped by the crap defending; if something doesn't improve there, I can certainly see him losing the fans, though not necessarily his job but I'm thinking if Hughes has a few more days like that with the super hoops, he'll be making my prediction of him being the first one for the chop come true; I just don't see Tony Fernandes being THAT patient with his investment; he looked so pissed off when the camera cut to him on the stands! I personally don't see QPR as ever being good enough to be more than relegation dodgers/bottom half at best, but I think the Chairman does, so Hughes will be a gonner with either a few more results like that, or they're not top half later on in the season, rightly or wrongly! Early days though, but i think it's going to be a good season 
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:00 am |
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Sussex - how are Brighton's prospects this season?
Gate - What you say about people's lazy comments about missing RvP is undoubtedly true, but....RvP would have scored. Gervinho and Giroud got loads of great service but couldn't finish it off. Of course you can't guarantee that RvP would have scored, but I'm certain he would have threatened more than Gervinho did.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 11:19 am |
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Hawkspur wrote: Sussex - how are Brighton's prospects this season?
Gate - What you say about people's lazy comments about missing RvP is undoubtedly true, but....RvP would have scored. Gervinho and Giroud got loads of great service but couldn't finish it off. Of course you can't guarantee that RvP would have scored, but I'm certain he would have threatened more than Gervinho did. I think Gervinho's main problem is that even he doesn't realize how fast he is and that he tries to do too much.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:21 pm |
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Hawkspur wrote: Sussex - how are Brighton's prospects this season?
Gate - What you say about people's lazy comments about missing RvP is undoubtedly true, but....RvP would have scored. Gervinho and Giroud got loads of great service but couldn't finish it off. Of course you can't guarantee that RvP would have scored, but I'm certain he would have threatened more than Gervinho did. @Hawkspur..........Early days but I honestly think play offs this year; there's a few signings coming soon according to Mr Poyet, so i'm hoping they'll be good ones
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:53 pm |
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Hmm, I wonder what happened to Man United today. They bought Van Persie to aid in scoring goals. Instead they started him on the bench and they couldn't score. When they brought him on, they still couldn't score. They just flat out couldn't score even when Howard was caught out of goal. They better hope this is just a blip and not a sign of things to come.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 7:20 pm |
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He hardly played in the preseason, give him a few games to get rolling. Everton isn't a pushover either especially at home.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 3:07 am |
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Looks like Sahin is off to Arsenal on loan. It's strictly 1 year, though, as Mourinho has once again absolutely refused to consider any possibility that the deal could become permanent.
I think Llorente could be on his way to Chelsea. Boo.
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Post subject: Re: EPL 2012-2013 Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 4:20 am |
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Gatehawk wrote: Hmm, I wonder what happened to Man United today. They bought Van Persie to aid in scoring goals. Instead they started him on the bench and they couldn't score. When they brought him on, they still couldn't score. They just flat out couldn't score even when Howard was caught out of goal. They better hope this is just a blip and not a sign of things to come. RVP is not match fit yet. Everton are prety tough to beat at Goodison. HOWEVER. I thought United looked flat. Their defense - although having a couple of injuries - was shambolic. Couldn't cope with Fellaini at all. Scholes was far and away their best player, and I think that's worrisome to pin your hopes on a 39 yr old. Kagawa didn't look great, their wingers were pretty awful, and Rooney couldn't get anything going. Having said that, it's a long season, and you know United will be there at the end. RVP will score goals for them, provided he can stay healthy. You need to learn that players leaving your club is part of football, Gate. Nothing personal.
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