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 Post Posted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:03 pm 
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IF this gets done at the soonest point possible... And if Hansen already has a handshake deal with the Maloofs... Is there any chance we see the Kings (Sonics) playing at the Key this next year?

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I e-mailed them. Not sure if it'll make a difference since i'm not a resident of the area, but I tried to do my part, for what it's worth.


What did you say? Just curious. You tell them what a boon the Thunder has been to the city?


I sent it from my work e-mail and I'm home now, but I basically said that I don't live in the city, but am a lifelong seahawks fan, and living in Oklahoma am a Thunder fan. I've gotten to see up close and personal how much it hurt the Sonics fans losing the team, and how they didn't deserve it. I let them know that I think it would not only be great for the city of Seattle, but for the NBA and the sport of basketball to have the Sonics back in Seattle. I finished up with a bit about how I believe Seattle to have some of sport's greatest fans, and how much this means to them and to future generations, and that I'm looking forward to a long and passionate rivalry between our two locales.

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I e-mailed them. Not sure if it'll make a difference since i'm not a resident of the area, but I tried to do my part, for what it's worth.


What did you say? Just curious. You tell them what a boon the Thunder has been to the city?


I sent it from my work e-mail and I'm home now, but I basically said that I don't live in the city, but am a lifelong seahawks fan, and living in Oklahoma am a Thunder fan. I've gotten to see up close and personal how much it hurt the Sonics fans losing the team, and how they didn't deserve it. I let them know that I think it would not only be great for the city of Seattle, but for the NBA and the sport of basketball to have the Sonics back in Seattle. I finished up with a bit about how I believe Seattle to have some of sport's greatest fans, and how much this means to them and to future generations, and that I'm looking forward to a long and passionate rivalry between our two locales.


Almost shed a tear...good man, Peaches. You didn't have to do it, but thanks for the support.


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I e-mailed them. Not sure if it'll make a difference since i'm not a resident of the area, but I tried to do my part, for what it's worth.


What did you say? Just curious. You tell them what a boon the Thunder has been to the city?


I sent it from my work e-mail and I'm home now, but I basically said that I don't live in the city, but am a lifelong seahawks fan, and living in Oklahoma am a Thunder fan. I've gotten to see up close and personal how much it hurt the Sonics fans losing the team, and how they didn't deserve it. I let them know that I think it would not only be great for the city of Seattle, but for the NBA and the sport of basketball to have the Sonics back in Seattle. I finished up with a bit about how I believe Seattle to have some of sport's greatest fans, and how much this means to them and to future generations, and that I'm looking forward to a long and passionate rivalry between our two locales.

The first time OKC comes to town I will make damn sure I get tickets. That will be HOSTILE.

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/l ... cs07m.html

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Man not much news lately....

There's actually been a lot going on lately, but it's been mostly kind of downer news so there probably hasn't been a lot of enthusiasm to talk about it. If you're not checking up on sonicscentral.com daily or following @sonicsarena @sonicsgate @chrisdaniels5 @brockandsalk @aaronq13fox on twitter, I'd recommend that as well.

Basically the news went from a lot of talk that the deal was going to get done very soon, talking about an actual SCC vote on the thing before the recess. Now that's looking unlikely, and the Port and other anti-arena sorts are throwing everything they can at it. The Port put out their own traffic study, but it didn't do anything to prove their case so they called it "unsatisfying" and basically are trying to delay the thing for "further study" which is basically their attempt to slow drain this thing to death, and it seems like Councilman Burgess might hold this thing up in committee and give the Port their wish. Max Vekich and the Save Our Sodo douches have intensified their smear campaign, and the Seattle Mariners have apparently officially lined up with that group, as their name was featured as an organization opposed to the arena location in their latest ad. Now today there's been a poll released that showed 52% of Seattle voters were opposed to using public bonding for the arena. The demographics of the poll did not represent the demographics of the city, but instead of registered voters which does make sense, however the questions were leading (it is a damn push poll after all) and the margin of error was over 5%, which means they can't even put together a push poll that statistically demonstrates that the majority of Seattle voters (which includes a heavy dose of old farts) are against this thing.

That's what's been going on. Don't get down, though, that's the worst thing we can do. Keep emailing, calling, fighting, and let's not give up or sit on our hands due to overconfidence. If this thing gets past the SCC, even if that means after their recess, I'd probably call the thing unstoppable. Even though both the city and county councils would vote on it again after SEPA and the EIS, I think it's unlikely anything major changes from then on out. I'm not as good as stirring up positive emotion in the crowd here as EJ, but let's just keep pushing until Sonics tickets are in our hands.


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 Post subject: Re: NBA/NHL/ARENA in Seattle thread...
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We tried to get Mariners fans to hear our cause back when Clay was stealing our team. We went down to the stadium before and after games, handing out fliers, talking to anyone who would listen. The sad reality that we discovered is that the vast majority of those fans don’t give a flying rip about us or our cause. Trying to get them to care is like yelling into the wind.

I don’t know if Seahawk fans would be much different.Sounders fans surely don’t give much of a crap about us.



This was posted by Speedcat over at Sonicscentral. I think as both Seahawk fans and Sonics we should step up. Also, I've sworn off the M's until new management comes in

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I saw that chatter about Hawks fans start up and someone suggesting posting something on .NET about getting fans to wear Sonics gear to the Hawks' preseason games. Really like the spirit there, but I think it'd be hard to get a big enough contingency of Hawks fans to be sporting Supes stuff through this forum.

I agree with your sentiment, though JOz, it'd be cool if we could be a part of Seattle sports fans coming together, I'm just not sure what will make sense, and how we can get those who might not be as interested in this (those that don't pop into this thread at all) to contribute in a way that we can make a significant statement.


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Yeah that's my biggest worry. Unfortunately this is all I can do to chip in, as I'm on the other side of the mountains and can't run around Seattle boycotting the M's in Sonics gear.

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I hope my fellow gold and green peoples dont go trolling the Hawks games... I love my sonics and all but bro, I'm don't want to hear about some political crap when I'm watching football.

They should troll the Mariners though, to get their points across. The Seahawks already showed support for Hansen.

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Doesn't necessarily have to be anything in the stands. But helping out with the huge media war come this monday through twitter and facebook wouldn't hurt

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CALLING ALL SONICS FANS!

The Port of Seattle has recently launched an aggressive attack campaign against the arena. Both directly and indirectly. With word of a possible agreement, they have been desperately trying to spread fear and misinformation.

Today Sonics fans fight back on Twitter. It's already begun. #PortOfSeattleFacts. Look it up. Use it. Find any possible article about the Port that makes them look bad (trust me, this is ridiculously easy. they're run like the mob) and tweet it. Or at the very least, go on Twitter, search for #PortOfSeattleFacts, and retweet as much as possible. This is important. We need all the help we can get. Here, let me help you get started. If you need some ammo to use:

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Port CEO Yoshitani got 9% raise to $367K, when Port rules allow only 3.5% raises http://bit.ly/fgltl5 #portofseattlefacts

Port’s bashing of SODO arena NOT serving the best interests of public investment in Safeco/Centurylink
#portofseattlefacts

PoS fraud, uncompetitive deal-making, poor accountability, cronyism, ethical lapses http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port CEO Yoshitani makes 2X salary of Gov. Chris Gregoire. Poor use of tax dollars.http://bit.ly/fgltl5 #portofseattlefacts

Econ. benefits of Port substantially overstated & used to justify public spending:http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

“little real accountability” in Port’s economic and financial analyses:http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port’s unfailingly optimistic economic impact study” oft justifies major projects:http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Coal trains = massive SODO delays, where is the Port outrage on freight mobility?http://bit.ly/QQOh2S #portofseattlefacts

Port CEO Yoshitani got 9% raise to $367K, when Port rules allow only 3.5% raiseshttp://bit.ly/fgltl5 #portofseattlefacts

PoS recent poll statement ignores voters approval of public funds /w I-91 if arena meets I-91 #portofseattlefacts

Port CEO Yoshitani gets $367K/yr, more than CEOs of Port of LA and Port of NYC/NJhttp://bit.ly/RydE9b #portofseattlefacts

PoS claims arena will cause added traffic, yet have no problem coal trains shutting down streets for up to 2 hrs a day. #portofseattlefacts

Port alleges SODO gentrification due to arena, but doesn’t care about hotels/condos/apts in Centurylink N. parking lot #portofseattlefacts

Port indignant over public bonding for arena, yet Port is recipient of $75 million yearly public subsidy. #portofseattlefacts

Port of seattle thinks toxic coal dust/increased rail traffic ok for SODO but @sonicsarena isn’t? http://bit.ly/Tsq96k #portofseattlefacts

Seattle passed a resolution to stop coal trains, but the Port supports them:http://bit.ly/R1vO5Z @seattlecouncil #portofseattlefacts

PoS fined for failure to disclose $270,000 of costs for lobbying other government entities http://bit.ly/QsketY #portofseattlefacts

Port CEO promised greenest Port in US, then fought for pollution numerous times:http://bit.ly/QRG52h @seattlecouncil #portofseattlefacts

Port against arena on train safety grounds, while Port workers protest unsafe conditions http://bit.ly/wf19bq #portofseattlefacts

Mariners and Port support SODO gentrification when they will profit from it:http://bit.ly/NuTTLG but against Arena #portofseattlefacts

90% of LA agrees LA LIVE is good for LA: http://bit.ly/HcuWHf Port of Sea claims Arena gentrification will destroy SODO #portofseattlefacts

Port holds Rails to Trails project hostage and blames the SODO Arena plan for their decision? http://bit.ly/OZeYlU #portofseattlefacts

Port CEO forgot where he lived & voted illegally for 3 years: http://bit.ly/NpgYml Why trust his SODO arena rhetoric? #portofseattlefacts

Port has “culture of dependence” on public funds while ignoring losses in real estate division http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port paid K street lobbying firm $300K/yr to lobby against clean port legislation.http://bit.ly/NpwZbR #portofseattlefacts

Port of Seattle burdens KC taxpayers by refinancing bonds - where was the vote on that? http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port uses levy funds when a project’s rate of return is lower than cost of debt. Bad criteria. http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port has non-voted tax levy, few mechanisms for holding it accountable for use of public resources http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port projects unrelated to core business functions should not publicly funded except by public vote http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port has increased reliance on tax levy & made investments/contracts w/o consistent positive return http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Extensive Port land holdings not subject to property taxes. We lose public tax revenues every year. http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port levy process lacks transparency. Levy is a subsidy to cover shortfalls across Port activities http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port levy offsets Real Estate Division’s lack of revenue for on-going capital costs & expenses http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port of Seattle gets 4X more public funds than Port of Tacoma, while moving same # of containers http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port of Tacoma “dramatically more cost effective” than PoS in economics & management of seaport http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port overpaid for rail route by $95 mil, refuses to sell it for bike trail use, blames arena plan. http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Rail Corridor acquisition is outside of Port’s mission, a poor investment & not in public interest. http://bit.ly/Nh8Shw #portofseattlefacts

Port cries about gentrification in SODO but created major gentrification themselveshttp://bit.ly/JYk0cV #portofseattlefacts

Port of Seattle, illegally spending your tax dollars. Again. http://bit.ly/QTMYA6#portofseattlefacts #NoOversight #AbuseOfPublicFunds

Port of Seattle loses $300,000 of YOUR and MY tax money, refuses to do anything. #portofseattlefacts http://bit.ly/N8muY3


We need all the help we can get if we're going to get this the attention it deserves. Thanks.

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I know that this is supposed to be for the Sports forum, but Mods can that somehow be placed on the main page, just because of how important the message is?

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Fight on, guys! Currently one of the biggest trending topics in Seattle!

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I've been retweeting!

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Yup, I've been tweeting and retweeting, in a bit here I think I'm just gonna start sending every tweet to the seattle council and do some emails.

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