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"Am I going MAD, or did the word "think" escape your lips? You were not hired for your brains, you hippopotamic land mass."

I'm talking about the fact that the majority of Matt's throws are to the sidelines on either swing passes or fade routes. I don't know what game you were watching today, but the one I saw today had him constantly challenging Brian Dawkins for some reason.

John Carlson was not his only choice today. In a 3 or 4 WR set, you have more than 1 choice yet it seemed he kept trying to go to Carlson.

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How do you know this about Whitehurst without ever seeing him in a regular season situation? If you want to compare Whitehurst with Hasselbeck you put them under center with the same supporting cast. That's not something that's been done to this point.

THANK YOU! Where is the thread on how bad the defense played? They let the Broncos march right down the field on nearly every drive. There were some game changing penalties from the O-line. A bad fumble by a rookie and bone head plays from Curry. But nooooo, Hass gets the heat.

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He controlled the game, I did not say different. That was what he was asked to do and he did it, that is why I gave him props last year.

Against SF he was not asked to make the difficult throw, it was the defense (not him) that kept Seattle in the game and it was the defense that was the game changer.

As I said he had a good game, it was not a great game, today a good game probably would have been enough (and is about all he is capable of nowadays IMO) but he had a bad game instead.

Today when the team really needed a Pro Bowl performance he took a dump.

Ruskell was an idiot for not getting us a future QB and letting him sit and learn while Hass plays out his contract. Green Bay, San Diego and Philly did this with really good QB's on their roster. We need to find out if CBJ is the guy going forward or if we need to draft a QB high in the upcoming draft. Hass' days are numbered here. His best attribute, his decision making, is not even very good anymore. Like you said, love the guy for what he has done, but it's time to move on. We aren't going anywhere with him this year and he doesn't deserve a new contract. Gotta find out if CBJ is the guy for this team and Bates offense.

Really? They have been ALL OVER THE PLACE. Want me to link them for you?

Aaron Curry is right under this one, the defense was all over the game day board.

Of course they are here, we have multiple threads. There is 1 Matt thread and dozens of other ones covering the very things you claim we aren't talking about, seriously, look around.

His TD pass, was up the middle. Two of his Branch passes, up the middle. 4/5 of Carlson's receptions were up the middle and William's sole catch, was towards the middle.

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Yeah in the game day thread, of course. But not in the general thread.

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Yes there is, several of them.

Look around man, there is a thread about defense, Curry, everything but Thurmond (whom is a rookie and frankly I expect mistakes). Everything else is all over the place, look around.

Zowert, my man. It does no good to use facts on the haters. They gonna hate.

Okay, so you agree that Matt is the only one getting the blame then? Ignoring the FACT (you like facts) that there are plenty of threads questioning the defense, the coaching, Curry, and pretty much everything else on the main board.

But yeah, we are the one's singling Matt out, okay


Matt is the leader, he is the veteran, he is the CAPTAIN, he gets more credit and more blame, its how it works but he is NOT being singled out as Zowart claims. Its simply not happening.

No matter what I say you're going to do your best to discredit Hass. You love to argue.

Your point was that Hass did nothing special in the game against the 49ers....... NOTHING? Really? It was his rushing TD that gave the Hawks momentum. He was responsible for 21 points in that game. If scoring the majority of points and leading a team to victory is "nothing special" then what is special to you?

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He wasn't good enough.. period.. why the debate? Hass himself said so.. geez I know some of are in love with him but the title of the thread has "objective" in it.. Get the point?

Uhmmm yeah! LOL! Hass has a bad game and the haters come out to play. They're silent when he plays well. Why is there no Walter Thurmond thread in the general discussion forum? It was his fumble that turned the momentum to the Broncos.

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I gave him credit for that game, I believe the defense did more than him in San Francisco but I gave him credit for that game, he played a good game.

It was not a Pro Bowl performance IMO, I stand by that. But if you want to say it was a great performance and he won the game last week, fine. You win.

Think what you want to think about me with regards to Hass but no one is singling him out.

I am much more interested in your claim that we are singling him out because that is BS and you know it.

Hmm, so when Hass does good he gets credit, but when he sucks its the team's fault. I smell a double standard.

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God this is pathetic.. Haters are people that want more out of the pro bowl QB? come on.. no one is defending Thurmond.. He was garbage too.

Because Thurmond is a ROOKIE day 2 draft pick whom made 1 mistake in his 2nd game of his career, Matt on the otherhand is a veteran who is the CAPTAIN of the team and made multiple mistakes today.

Is that a double standard? Probably but a fair one.

When Thurmond is in his 10th year as a Seahawk and a team captain and fumbles a punt return I expect a thread about it.