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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck  Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:46 pm |
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Too slow of a starter nowadays.
He needs to get back to the days when his openning drives scored points.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:48 pm |
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Hass had a bad game. Move on. Last week everyone was praising him. Hawk fans are too up and down. Understand that this is the NFL. Players have bad and good games. Look at Joe Flacco, he threw 4 INT. Favre had 3, Young had 2 as well as a few other veteran QBs.
It happens. Stop crapping on our players when they have a bad game. Unless you can go in there and do a better job.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:49 pm |
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Can only make about half the throws this offense requires.
He's a game manager, not a playmaker in the Bates offense. Problem is, he keeps trying to make plays.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:50 pm |
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If he just had a bad game that would be one thing.
But the mistakes he made are not mistakes that an experienced QB should be making. They're rookie mistakes. Hell, I feel like calling them 'mistakes' is a compliment.
Also, he just can't make the throws that are necessary, and that is a huge problem.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:51 pm |
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Zowert wrote: Hass had a bad game. Move on. Last week everyone was praising him. Hawk fans are too up and down. Understand that this is the NFL. Players have bad and good games. Look at Joe Flacco, he threw 4 INT. Favre had 3, Young had 2 as well as a few other veteran QBs.
It happens. Stop crapping on our players when they have a bad game. Unless you can go in there and do a better job. The problem is that lately, Hass' bad games have far outnumbered the good. When that happens it changes from having a bad game to just being bad.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:55 pm |
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Trrrroy wrote: Zowert wrote: Hass had a bad game. Move on. Last week everyone was praising him. Hawk fans are too up and down. Understand that this is the NFL. Players have bad and good games. Look at Joe Flacco, he threw 4 INT. Favre had 3, Young had 2 as well as a few other veteran QBs.
It happens. Stop crapping on our players when they have a bad game. Unless you can go in there and do a better job. The problem is that lately, Hass' bad games have far outnumbered the good. When that happens it changes from having a bad game to just being bad. Lately? This was the second game of the season. He had a stellar game against the Niners and looked good that first drive, until the holding penalty. It killed his and the team's momentum. It doesn't matter who our QB was. It could be Peyton Manning, and if he had a bad game, everyone would crap on him. What are we going to do? Put Charlie in? Come on. Hass took this team to its first NFC championship and Superbowl. He may be a little older, but he's still a good QB.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:57 pm |
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Mot sure why he is obsessed with the play down the sideline. Very few throws over the middle and, missed a critical throw late in the 3rd that would have been a difference maker - guy was open by at least 5 years. Bummer. I'm a big Hass fan but watching him live, I have to question his reads on the receivers. Opening drive looked great until he threw the pick. Went downhill from there.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:59 pm |
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Today he was simply doing his best Michael Vick impression... both his running and passing ability.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:02 pm |
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MeanBlueGreen wrote: Mot sure why he is obsessed with the play down the sideline. Very few throws over the middle and, missed a critical throw late in the 3rd that would have been a difference maker - guy was open by at least 5 years. Bummer. I'm a big Hass fan but watching him live, I have to question his reads on the receivers. Opening drive looked great until he threw the pick. Went downhill from there. Its not that Hass is obsessed with those plays, those were the cards he was delt. Hass isnt necessarily allowed to call audibles like he used to under Holmgren. He gets the play calls and tries to execute them, that's all he can do. Most of the completions Hass made were up the middle anyway, so I dont know what youre talking about.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:02 pm |
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It looks to me like Matt reads well, but his actual throws are an adventure.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:02 pm |
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Hass is not going to be our quarterback in the future. Honestly, IF this team ends up going on a losing streak, we need to see if CBJ can hack it as the future quarterback or if we need to spend our #1 next year on a QB. The last thing I want to see is this team go 8-8, 7-9 whatever, with Hass at qb, then start CBJ next year only to find out he sucks too.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:03 pm |
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TruFan23 wrote: I love Hass, but ever since the Super Bowl he`s gone the way of Jake Delhomme or Marc Bulger. Sad, but it`s what has happened. Actually he basically carried the offense the year after the SB.....28 TDs vs. only 12 ints and a 91.4 rating with Alexander out half the year. Since then though, he's been hurt and/or inconsistent at best and less than inconsistent at worst. _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:03 pm |
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TruFan23 wrote: Hass is not going to be our quarterback in the future. Honestly, IF this team ends up going on a losing streak, we need to see if CBJ can hack it as the future quarterback or if we need to spend our #1 next year on a QB. The last thing I want to see is this team go 8-8, 7-9 whatever, with Hass at qb, then start CBJ next year only to find out he sucks too. Well, duh, he's 35 years old.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:03 pm |
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I don't think anyone can say how the year is really gonna play out. One game THIS SEASON. This is a different season, different players, different coaches. So he had a bad game. Let's see how he does next week. Do you really think benching Hass right now is gonna give this team any kind of confidence? I think he is still the leader of this team and had an off day.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:04 pm |
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TruFan23 wrote: Hass is not going to be our quarterback in the future. Honestly, IF this team ends up going on a losing streak, we need to see if CBJ can hack it as the future quarterback or if we need to spend our #1 next year on a QB. The last thing I want to see is this team go 8-8, 7-9 whatever, with Hass at qb, then start CBJ next year only to find out he sucks too. Concur. Problem will be that 8-8 could win the division. _________________
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:05 pm |
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Zowert wrote:
What are we going to do? Put Charlie in? Come on. Hass took this team to its first NFC championship and Superbowl. He may be a little older, but he's still a good QB.
Its not 2005, just because people keep repeating "Matt is still a good QB" does not make it true. More and more (and not just this one season) the good games are being far out weighed by the bad games, today he made 1 physical mistake (2nd INT, he just can't make that throw, not sure he ever could), 1 mental mistake (1st INT, a 7th grader knows not to throw that pass) and 1 that was both (the 4th down throw through the end zone). Simple put, many of us are not in agreement with the "Matt is still a good QB" stance. He used to be, just not sure he still is.
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:05 pm |
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Zowert wrote: Trrrroy wrote: Zowert wrote: Hass had a bad game. Move on. Last week everyone was praising him. Hawk fans are too up and down. Understand that this is the NFL. Players have bad and good games. Look at Joe Flacco, he threw 4 INT. Favre had 3, Young had 2 as well as a few other veteran QBs.
It happens. Stop crapping on our players when they have a bad game. Unless you can go in there and do a better job. The problem is that lately, Hass' bad games have far outnumbered the good. When that happens it changes from having a bad game to just being bad. Lately? This was the second game of the season. Yes lately. Last years games count too, don't they?
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:05 pm |
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mrblitz wrote: It looks to me like Matt reads well, but his actual throws are an adventure. Agree with this too. _________________
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:11 pm |
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Aros wrote: I am as big a Hass supporter as you will find on this forum but it is damn difficult to defend his performance today. ***sigh*** Sadly, I share your disdain. _________________ 
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Post subject: Re: Objective look at Hasselbeck Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 4:13 pm |
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Zowert wrote: Hass had a bad game. Move on. Last week everyone was praising him. Hawk fans are too up and down. Understand that this is the NFL. Players have bad and good games. Look at Joe Flacco, he threw 4 INT. Favre had 3, Young had 2 as well as a few other veteran QBs.
It happens. Stop crapping on our players when they have a bad game. Unless you can go in there and do a better job. In that case, I'll crap on Jennings. I'm 51, overweight, and use a cane after a bad motorcycle experience. But I could play corner better than that POS. It has nothing to do with Hass, but it had to be said. 
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