I think Hass will win the QB competition and be the starter. However, Whitehurst should be able to get enough playing time as a non starter to allow PC et. al. to "see what he's got". As I recall in years past there have even been a few situations where 2 QB's pretty much shared the QB duties. That may not be a bad option this year because it would allow "old Man" Hass to get some rest and perhaps extend his career (and have less injuries)while at the same time allowing Whithurst the opportunity for some "on the job training". Also, I assume we'll have some "blow out" games (both ways) this year and PC can let the young dude run the show to reduce Hass's work load.

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Have you not paid any attention to the Panthers team thinking Clausen is full of him self, and Steve Smith basically saying Clausen is a punk. I would have watched him in Seattle ruin our organization.

Hasselbeck has gotten way to little credit, everyone complains about the WR and OL situations as glaring holes. Tell me if Peyton Manning couldn't get 3 seconds in the pocket and even if he did his WR screwed up half the time, would he would put up good numbers in the league? I thought so. Matt has been an average QB with little help. Imagine what he can do with good help.

Hasselbeck waited 2 years behind a future HOF in Brett Favre. Whitehurst has sat three years behind Phillip Rivers one of the leagues premier QBs. I am confident in his ability to play, an become a leader. Saying that though, Matt is already a leader and has played average football with little help, with the help he will receive this year, i am even confident in his ability to be a top 10 QB this year. Im calling it right now, He will get a 2 year deal after this year.

I think anyone who thinks we are gunna take Locker or a QB period in the top half of the draft(rounds 1-3) is crazy! If it is Matt's last year than ofcourse we will aim for a second or third stringer.

Im way more interested on if Mike Teel or Mike Reilly gets cut, or if they both stay. If they both remain i guarantee no QB will be taken next year.

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Have you paid any attention? That rumor was bogus from day 1. You could smell it a mile away with the "we're told" as its source. Anyone who believes what they read on PFT, and bleacher report for that matter as truth is gulible. And when that douche Florio who started that rumor was expected to go on the air with Steve Smith he tucked his slimey little tail and ran like a bitch yesterday. This hate on Jimmy Clausen and love fest for Tim Tebow is a joke. Here's a link to Steve Smiths actual opinion.

http://wfnz.cbslocal.com/2010/05/07/ste ... #more-3446

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Hawks are 4-0 when Lynch gets atleast 20 touches.

ah ha cats still hate Clausen? this is ridiculous. When Clausen tears it up in Carolina, don't say i told ya so

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3elieve

Pete Carroll has a pretty good track record of turning very young QBs into NFL quality QBs. Whether they start and play for four years, start for a short time, or come off the bench he always seemed to have adequate players to run his offense.

If this equates to the NFL or not remains to be seen, at the very least we can say, he has an eye for talent and apparently knows what he’s looking for to run his offensive schemes. Should he see someone in the draft next year, my only hope would be the FO doesn’t reach to take him and does what they did this year, take value at each round.

But back to topic, if Charlie Whitehurst is a “franchise type” QB his talent should show through during training camp, preseason, practice, and field play when he’s needed. If he’s not the right fit, it makes no difference what you traded to get him you’re only throwing good money after bad to prove you didn’t make a mistake (something I hope this FO never does).

IMO, you start the best players at each position, each regular season game, whether they’re a ten year veteran, free agent, first round draft pick, or a UFA. No exception.

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"Est autem fides credere quod nondum vides; cuius fidei merces est videre quod credis."
Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe.
(St. Augustine of Hippo)

"Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim."
(“Ovid”)

If you recall Hass was Mr. August for Green Bay when he got a chance to play, where it was not starter caliber players he was able to tear them up, an indication he was able to pick apart teams, play smart and show his potential.

If Whitehurst is that good it will show.

Oh and as far as Pete and QB's, they were coached a lot by a guy on the other side of the lake, Sark worked with them much more the Pete, possibly why you seen a drop off last year at USC in QB play.

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The best man will compete for the job, Matt will be assumed starter, but they will be testing the CW waters (not just in camp).

The reality of our Oline might be a better litmus ...
If you think our Oline's going to magically and imediately improve overnight...well, it's "possible" but not realistic. Teams/coaches had our number long enough now, "bring 'em in, and keep bringing them in and watch the Hawks fold". That's how it went down last year especially.

One is an experienced QB in his final contract yr, but one with wheels/scramble ability of molasses (yes, even compared to CW), a developed problem telgraphing now (uugh), and an arm that I question (forget the long ball...I'm just talking 6-10yrd outs), ...on top of a history of some of the most boneheaded ints seen in the league.
I trust his reads at the line however.

The other is unproven as of yet. I don't expect him to "light it up" his first yr with this nominally revamped team...but more consistent play from him is more plausible then the QB above overcoming the issues I see and listed.

The Hass days are closing (being nice here, I think they closed already), it's time to think about the future. Play Whitehurst as much as possible, if he supercedes...he's now your starter and likely QB candidate to move fwd with.

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"Dyin' ain't much of a livin', boy" - Josey Wales

Maybe Logical is the unnamed source?

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Saints board -- "We are a much better all around team than them besides special teams."
Saints board -- "Shut down coverage on all the little piss-ant receivers in Russ Wilson's arsenal."
Saints board -- "Wilson will not know how to handle all [Rob Ryan's] schemes"

Might as well be. I'm not against reading the site with a grain of salt, but if you read anything that is from an unnamed source or similar word usage don't believe it. Imo unless Adam Shefter, Jay Glazer, or Jason La Canfora are standing by the rumor I don't believe it. And yes I left Peter King and John Clayton off that list cuz imo half of what they say is speculation these days. Shefter, Glazer, and La Canfora just report what they hear and have awesome inside sources.

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Hawks are 4-0 when Lynch gets atleast 20 touches.

True, but I feel USCs drop off at QB (if you want to call 9-3 a drop off) had more to do with Sanchez leaving as a junior and having to start Barkley as a true freshman, before he was ready, than anything else.

Perhaps not that much different than the QB situation for the Seahawks now.

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Faith is to believe what you do not see; the reward of this faith is to see what you believe.
(St. Augustine of Hippo)

"Perfer et obdura; dolor hic tibi proderit olim."
(“Ovid”)

USC actually played very well last year considering they lost Sanchez and 3 NFL Caliber linebackers. That kind of talent is impossible to replace and the fact that they went 9-3 with not a lot of talent speaks to Pete's coaching prowess.

Carroll knows how good Matt can be when he's not getting abused by opposing defenses who know he HAS to throw. I was surprised to even see the topic broached but apparently there are a lot of people with strong and varying opinions on the matter.

My prediction, Matt will come damn close to making the Pro Bowl this year. It's rare for anybody to have a bad year then make the Pro Bowl no matter how well they play.


Just to add to that, on NFL Access they were talking about Karlos Dansby going to Miami and then showed Hasselbeck getting sacked by FOUR Cardinals! That's the kinda blocking he had to put up with all season and people call him injury prone...if that's the case then Matt Stafford is also injury prone and should be traded, released or moved to backup right away.

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Definitely not haha, now if i was ever asked about his HS play, i could be a credible source. I just think you guys think to much about somebody "we could have got". I doubt Clausen will tear it up, and i wouldn't be surprised if Matt Moore has a good year, sealing his spot the next year. It "could" be 3-5 years till we see him start.

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At least until someone wins it.

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My nickname for Wilson....Silent Russassin. He's calm and collective and will KILL you silently. No smack talk, no warning, kills you silently while getting the job done!

Wow. Didn't even look at the posts...just responding to the title.
Let's just soot him and put him out to pasture...
Would the season PLEASE hurry up and get here!

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"Make good teams look bad and make bad teams look terrible!" -Michael Robinson

But what about all our speculation?

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Quoting Montanahawk05:
the foremost reason, by a long margin, of Seattle's continued struggles the last three years is Matt Hasselbeck. Hass's arm strength has declined to the vanishing point. [b]They're stacking the line and jumping routes because they don't respect Hasselbeck's arm.

Yes! haahhaha

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I think i should start another thread asking if Hasselbeck should be the backup or not.

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Maybe start a thread about Running Backs or something we don't have statistical evidence behind lol

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How about infecting every single new thread by talking/bickering about it instead - keeping it to it's own topic(s) would make too much sense.

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Ohh, I wish you hadn't said that.

That's pretty lame. What does that prediction even mean and how is it quantifiabe?

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