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 Post subject: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Time to put your cards on the table. If you want to say in three years "I knew that guy was going to be a bust" or "I told everyone we should draft him!" this is your reference point.

Rules: I've listed below 20 players that are likely to go in the first round. Your job is to (1) pick five players you predict will be consistently good, Pro Bowlers, All-Pros, however you want to define "worthy of a first-round pick." Then (2) pick five players who you predict will bust. Either complete failures, never living up to expectations, or however you want to define "not worthy of a first-round pick." So you must make a prediction on 10 out of the 20. If you want to make an additional prediction not involving one of these players, be my guest.

Eric Berry
Sam Bradford
Dez Bryant
Bryan Bulaga
Bruce Campbell
Jimmy Clausen
Anthony Davis
Joe Haden
Mike Iupati
Rolando McClain
Gerald McCoy
Derrick Morgan
Jason Pierre-Paul
Russel Okung
Maurkice Pouncey
C.J. Spiller
Ndamukong Suh
Earl Thomas
Dan Williams
Trent Williams

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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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My predictions:

WORTHY OF A FIRST-ROUND PICK:
Jimmy Clausen
Joe Haden
Gerald McCoy
Derrick Morgan
Ndamukong Suh

NOT WORTHY:
Sam Bradford
Dez Bryant
Bruce Campbell
Anthony Davis
Jason Pierre-Paul

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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Worthy of 1st Round Pick

Eric Berry
Gerald McCoy
Ndamukong Suh
Derrick Morgan
Mike Iupati

Bust

Jimmy Clausen
Sam Bradford
Dez Bryant
CJ Spiller
Bryan Bulaga


In the end, whoever the Seahawks pick I'll be crossing my finger that he's not a bust.


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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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I'm going to go with

Worthy:

Jimmy Clausen
Joe Haden
Gerald McCoy
Earl Thomas
Trent Williams

Not Worthy:

Dez Bryant
Bruce Campbell
Anthony Davis
Jason Pierre-Paul
Bryan Bulaga

And I think one of the 2 DT's is going to be a good player but not a sure fire hall of famer. (Went with McCoy on this one.)

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worthy:

Eric Berry
Gerald McCoy
Ndamukong Suh
Russel Okung
Mike Iupati

not worthy:
Dez Bryant
C.J. Spiller
Bruce Campbell
Jason Pierre-Paul
Jimmy Clausen

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Worthy:

Brian Bulaga
Jimmy Clausen (I don't think he's gonna be great, but above average is good enough to warrant a first round pick with a QB.)
Rolando McClain
Gerald McCoy
Derrick Morgan

Busts:

Bruce Campbell
Ndamukong Suh (I got a feeling)
Sam Bradford
Jason Pierre-Paul
Dez Bryant

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ALL PRO
Eric Berry
Rolando McClain
Mike Iupati
Gerald McCoy
Derrick Morgan

BUST
Jimmy Clausen
Anthony Davis
Jason Pierre-Paul
Dan Williams
Bruce Campbell


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worthy
Eric Berry
Rolando McClain
Dez Bryant
Jimmy Clausen
Ndamakung Suh


Busts
Bryan Bulaga
Anthony Davis
Joe Haden
Dan Williams
Bruce Campbell

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Pro Bowler:
Rolando McClain
Gerald McCoy
Derrick Morgan
Ndamukong Suh

Bust:
Bruce Campbell
C.J. Spiller
Jason Pierre-Paul
Russell Okung
Taylor Mays

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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Worthy:
Gerald McCoy
Russell Okung
Eric Berry
Mike Iupati
Dez Bryant
Ryan Mathews (not on your list, but most likely going in the first round)

Bust:
Jimmy Clausen
Brian Bulaga
Derrick Morgan
Anthony Davis
Bruce Campbell


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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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This is a great pre-draft thread. I'm no talent evaluator, but I'll give it a go.

Worthy: I think all of these guys are highly talented and have the work ethic and temperment to succeed.
Eric Berry
Gerald McCoy
Ndamukong Suh
Bryan Bulaga (as a right tackle)
CJ Spiller

Busts: These players are either Gholstons, lazy or I just don't buy the hype
Bruce Campbell
Jason Pierre-Paul
Anthony Davis
Trent Williams
Sam Bradford

I can't wait to see what Snohomie and English post.


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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Boom
Dez Bryant
Jimmy Clausen
Derrick Morgan
Trent Williams
Joe Hadden

BUST
Sam Bradford
Eric Berry
Byran Bulaga
Bruce Campbell
Brandon Graham


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Worthy:

Morgan
Suh
McCoy
Pouncey
Thomas

Unworthy:

Clausen
Bryant
Campbell
Pierre-Paul
Iupati

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Worthy of a 1st round pick:

Eric Berry
C.J. Spiller
Gerald McCoy
Ndamukong Suh
Sam Bradford


Busts:

Jason Pierre-Paul
Derrick Morgan
Dan Williams
Dez Bryant
Bruce Campbell


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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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BOOM
Eric Berry
Jimmy Clausen
Ndamukong Suh
Trent Williams
Earl Thomas

BUST
Sam Bradford
Bryan Bulaga
Gerald McCoy
Jason Pierre-Paul
Rolando McClain

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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Pro Bowlers

Ndamukong Suh
Anthony Davis
Earl Thomas
Eric Berry
Rolando McClain
Extra Credit: Jahvid Best

Bust

Bradford
Trent Williams
Jason Pierre-Paul
Jimmy Clausen
Derrick Morgan

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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Boom:
Suh
Clausen
Thomas
Baluga
Berry

Bust:
Pierre-Paul
Campbell
Bryant
Davis
Okung

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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Worthy of the Hype Machine:
Ndamukong Suh
Derrick Morgan
Sam Bradford
Eric Berry
Maurkice Pouncey



Not worthy of Hype Machine:
Jason Pierre-Paul
Jason Campbell
Brian Bulaga (I think he'll get overdrafted as a LT and end up a RT)
Dez Bryant
Rolando McClain


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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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In order of likelihood-

5 Most likely to succeed (not necessarily in Seattle):

Earl Thomas
Joe Haden
Rolando McClain
C.J. Spiller
Mike Iupati

5 Most likely to Bust (of this list):

Jason Pierre-Paul
Sam Bradford
Anthony Davis
Trent Williams
Russell Okung

4 Prospects who will be better than expected:

Dez Bryant
Jimmy Clausen
Bruce Campbell
Bryan Bulaga

4 Prospects who won't bust but might disappoint high expectations:

Gerald McCoy
Eric Berry
Dan Williams
Maurkice Pouncey


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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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I'd like to add a couple later round picks that I believe will be pro-bowlers

Amari Spievey, especially if drafted by a team that uses a cover-2 (Rnd 3ish)
Toby Gerhart, he'll dominate defenses, and is the kind of guy who will improve every year (Rnd 3ish)

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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Pro Bowlers - I like the defensive players in the top end of the draft
Berry
Suh
McCoy
McClain
Haden

Below expectations
Clausen - Has to wind up to put zip on the ball and gets distracted by the pass rush.
Davis - Poor work ethic.
Cambell - Great athlete but seems to lack some football instinct.
Bulaga - Will be drafted as LT and could be a pro bowler but at RT not LT. Therefore he falls into this category.
D Bryant - Off the field issues and immaturity will eventually bring him down.


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 Post subject: Re: FOR THE ARCHIVES: Who's a Pro Bowler, who's a bust?
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Worth a 1st rounder:
Clausen
Suh
McClain
Spiller
Pouncey

Busts:
Dez Bryant (like a small child, head is too big to allow for catching overhead)
G. McCoy (one of the top DT's has to be, check history)
B. Campbell
Bradford (because he'll be a lamb)
Pierre-Paul


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All-Pro:
Gerald McCoy
Ndamukong Suh
Eric Berry
Sam Bradford
Rolando McClain

Bust:
Jason Pierre-Paul
Dan Williams
Bruce Campbell
Dez Bryant
I don't have a 5th choice as a bust but If I had to choose one just to fill the spot it would be Bryan Bulaga

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Worth a 1st Rounder:
Eric Berry
Rolando McClain
Jimmy Clausen
Brian Bulaga
C.J. Spiller

Not worth a 1st Rounder:
Sam Bradford-I like him more recently, but hey, he's going to the Rams.
Bruce Campbell
Trent Williams
Jason Pierre-Paul
Ndamukong Suh-I think he'll be good, but I don't think he'll come close to reaching the ridiculous expectations people seem to have for him.


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WORTHY:
Ndamukong Suh
Eric Berry
Brian Bulaga
Charles Brown
Jimmy Clausen

BUST:
Dez Bryant
Anthony Davis
Jason Pierre-Paul
Rolando McClain
Bruce Campbell

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BOWLERS:
Ndamukong Suh
Eric Berry
Jimmy Clausen
Earl Thomas
CJ Spiller

BUSTERS:
Dez Bryant (Lazy work ethic)
Bruce Campbell (Great athlete, mediocre football player)
Mike Iupati (He's no Hutchinson)
Jason Pierre-Paul (see Campbell)
Sam Bradford (I hope, like the player.. but Lambs.. not so much)


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All-Pros
Russell Okung
Eric Berry
Ndamukong Suh
Sam Bradford
CJ Spiller

Busts
Bryan Bulaga
Dez Bryant
Bruce Campbell
Derrick Morgan
Anthony Davis

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Worthy :)
Ndamukong Suh
Earl Thomas (best S in the class?)
Jimmy Clausen
Russel Okung
Sam Bradford

Not worthy :(
C.J. Spiller
Bruce Campbell
Eric Berry (a fine prospect, but if you take a S in the top 7 - he better be better than Berry is)
Mike Iupati (awareness)
Anthony Davis

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As it looks right now... Just about everyone on here missed on Pierre-Paul. He is turning into an ALL PRO pass push rusher!!!!

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