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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:45 pm |
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prelag wrote: volsunghawk wrote: Seems like you are, as well. For the record, I don't like Clausen one itty bitty bit. And as I pointed out, if Whitehurst proves to be a bust, it's a lot easier to move on from the Whitehurst experiment than from a kid you gave 6 years and $70 million. I say Whitehurst will be a starter soon enough because Hasselbeck's contract is done in one year and he's not getting any younger. Plus, he has an injury history a mile long. Isn't that why we were looking for a QB in the first place? As of right now, the only damn thing we're talking about is potential. You're betting on a guy who's proven even less than Whitehurst has, at significantly higher stakes.
How costly will it be if the Whitehurst experiment doesn't pan out? Will we become the Cleveland Browns forever intertwined in a QB carousal? Oh, so Whitehurst not panning out leads to a Browns-type carousel, but Clausen not panning out doesn't?
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:47 pm |
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prelag wrote: Mojambo wrote: Quote: "Whitehurst is a 3rd string QB until proven otherwise." By this same standard Clausen isn't even an NFL player. Yeah, and Whitehursts ass hasn't even been warming the bench the past few seasons for the San Diego chargers. From what I heard today, the guy didn't even dress. That in itself says a lot. I was listening to pat Kirwin/Tim ryan today on sirius radio and they broke this Whitehurst news. Kirwin didnt even think the Whitehurst was active for a single game in the last 3 seasons. He also wondered how the Kid could not beat out Billy Volek for at least the 2nd string job.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:50 pm |
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I Quote: was listening to pat Kirwin/Tim ryan today on sirius radio and they broke this Whitehurst news. Kirwin didnt even think the Whitehurst was active for a single game in the last 3 seasons. He also wondered how the Kid could not beat out Billy Volek for at least the 2nd string job.
Further solidifies my argument. This guy hasn't played a real game since college. Yeah.... Yeah... He'll be better then Clausen.... 
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:54 pm |
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prelag wrote: I Quote: was listening to pat Kirwin/Tim ryan today on sirius radio and they broke this Whitehurst news. Kirwin didnt even think the Whitehurst was active for a single game in the last 3 seasons. He also wondered how the Kid could not beat out Billy Volek for at least the 2nd string job.
Further solidifies my argument. This guy hasn't played a real game since college. Neither has Clausen.
_________________ Okay, so maybe that pass rush is still an issue. Lather, rinse, repeat.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:57 pm |
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The thing that Whitehurst has going is that he at least has been around the NFL and has practiced against a solid defense. Clausen has never seen anything of that caliber. I really like the move.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:57 pm |
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volsunghawk wrote: prelag wrote: I Quote: was listening to pat Kirwin/Tim ryan today on sirius radio and they broke this Whitehurst news. Kirwin didnt even think the Whitehurst was active for a single game in the last 3 seasons. He also wondered how the Kid could not beat out Billy Volek for at least the 2nd string job.
Further solidifies my argument. This guy hasn't played a real game since college. Neither has Clausen. Clausen will be a starter for an NFL team before age 27. Care to disagree?
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:00 pm |
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PascoHawk wrote: The thing that Whitehurst has going is that he at least has been around the NFL and has practiced against a solid defense. Clausen has never seen anything of that caliber. I really like the move. Yeah, Manning, Brady, Rivers, etc... had never seen anything of that caliber either. I am sure if any of them were coming out in this draft you would still like that move and use this same retarded argument.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:01 pm |
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"Clausen will be a starter for an NFL team before age 27. Care to disagree?"
With the money he's going to be guaranteed, he'll have to be. Whether he's any good or not.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:02 pm |
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prelag wrote: PascoHawk wrote: The thing that Whitehurst has going is that he at least has been around the NFL and has practiced against a solid defense. Clausen has never seen anything of that caliber. I really like the move. Yeah, Manning, Brady, Rivers, etc... had never seen anything of that caliber either. I am sure if any of them were coming out in this draft you would still like that move and use this same retarded argument. Dude you need to chill before you have a heart attack.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:03 pm |
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Doesn't Clausen lack ideal arm strength for Bates' offense? I thought that was Whitehurst's appeal for this coaching staff.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:03 pm |
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Mojambo wrote: "Clausen will be a starter for an NFL team before age 27. Care to disagree?"
With the money he's going to be guaranteed, he'll have to be. Whether he's any good or not. If Whitehurst was any good, he would be the #2 QB in San Diego. Or am I just on drugs?
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:04 pm |
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Something I just have to get off my chest. I have listened to all my Hawk brethern bitch and complain since the season ended about us not having a sucessor for Hass and now that our new FO has made a deal for Whitehurst most of you guys are crying that we paid too much. I would rather pay what we did then to waste one of our 1st rounders on any of the QB's coming out in the draft. I hear you guys say we are buying too high and selling too low. I agree they should have gotten more for Seneca, but moving down 20 spots in the 2nd round and giving up a late 3rd next year is not that steep of a gamble for a guy who has all the tools to be a FRANCHISE QB!!! Look on you tube and check out the skills this kid has, on the real ITS SICK!!
We gained another pick in the Tapp deal and will probably get another when we ship Sims off to Cleveland, so lay off of Pete and Schnide atleast they are trying to rebuild effectively. So I guess what I am saying is be a true fan and get on board and give these guys a chance or pick another set of colors and cry about their moves, PERIOD!!!!
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:04 pm |
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Tech Worlds wrote: prelag wrote: PascoHawk wrote: The thing that Whitehurst has going is that he at least has been around the NFL and has practiced against a solid defense. Clausen has never seen anything of that caliber. I really like the move. Yeah, Manning, Brady, Rivers, etc... had never seen anything of that caliber either. I am sure if any of them were coming out in this draft you would still like that move and use this same retarded argument. Dude you need to chill before you have a heart attack. Sure thing dude! 
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:05 pm |
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Ninerguy wrote: I was listening to pat Kirwin/Tim ryan today on sirius radio and they broke this Whitehurst news. Kirwin didnt even think the Whitehurst was active for a single game in the last 3 seasons. He also wondered how the Kid could not beat out Billy Volek for at least the 2nd string job.
I like how people say, ''couldn't even beat out Volek". Volek is a very good experienced QB, who should have been the starter in Tenn. He probably even at this point could start for a lot of teams in this league. I mean we might as well say, "why couldn't he beat out Rivers for the starting job?" What a loser. 
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:06 pm |
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HAWKMANINVANCOUVER wrote: Something I just have to get off my chest. I have listened to all my Hawk brethern bitch and complain since the season ended about us not having a sucessor for Hass and now that our new FO has made a deal for Whitehurst most of you guys are crying that we paid too much. I would rather pay what we did then to waste one of our 1st rounders on any of the QB's coming out in the draft. I hear you guys say we are buying too high and selling too low. I agree they should have gotten more for Seneca, but moving down 20 spots in the 2nd round and giving up a late 3rd next year is not that steep of a gamble for a guy who has all the tools to be a FRANCHISE QB!!! Look on you tube and check out the skills this kid has, on the real ITS SICK!!
We gained another pick in the Tapp deal and will probably get another when we ship Sims off to Cleveland, so lay off of Pete and Schnide atleast they are trying to rebuild effectively. So I guess what I am saying is be a true fan and get on board and give these guys a chance or pick another set of colors and cry about their moves, PERIOD!!!!
HM Answer me this, because it seems that everyone can't give a straight forward answer, If this kid is so good, why has he been a 3rd string QB since entering the league.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:07 pm |
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prelag wrote: Mojambo wrote: "Clausen will be a starter for an NFL team before age 27. Care to disagree?"
With the money he's going to be guaranteed, he'll have to be. Whether he's any good or not. If Whitehurst was any good, he would be the #2 QB in San Diego. Or am I just on drugs? If Whitehurst wasn't any good, he wouldn't have drummed up any interest from anyone. Yet 3 teams with QB questions had him in for a visit, and two of those teams talked contract with his agent.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:08 pm |
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prelag wrote: HAWKMANINVANCOUVER wrote: Something I just have to get off my chest. I have listened to all my Hawk brethern bitch and complain since the season ended about us not having a sucessor for Hass and now that our new FO has made a deal for Whitehurst most of you guys are crying that we paid too much. I would rather pay what we did then to waste one of our 1st rounders on any of the QB's coming out in the draft. I hear you guys say we are buying too high and selling too low. I agree they should have gotten more for Seneca, but moving down 20 spots in the 2nd round and giving up a late 3rd next year is not that steep of a gamble for a guy who has all the tools to be a FRANCHISE QB!!! Look on you tube and check out the skills this kid has, on the real ITS SICK!!
We gained another pick in the Tapp deal and will probably get another when we ship Sims off to Cleveland, so lay off of Pete and Schnide atleast they are trying to rebuild effectively. So I guess what I am saying is be a true fan and get on board and give these guys a chance or pick another set of colors and cry about their moves, PERIOD!!!!
HM Answer me this, because it seems that everyone can't give a straight forward answer, If this kid is so good, why has he been a 3rd string QB since entering the league. Because hes been behind 2 other pretty good quarterbacks. Straight forward enough?
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Post subject: Re: Charlie Whitehurst TRADED TO SEATTLE. Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:10 pm |
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bighawk wrote: msnbc.com says that Pete and John has been watching a lot of his film. So they have been doing there homework and i am sure they talked to Norv Turner about him.  Since PC has spent a lot of time in the southern california area over the past years, does he have any connections to the Chargers staff? I'm just hoping he has some better insight into this player since the most recent game film is his college games.
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:11 pm |
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prelag wrote: HAWKMANINVANCOUVER wrote: Something I just have to get off my chest. I have listened to all my Hawk brethern bitch and complain since the season ended about us not having a sucessor for Hass and now that our new FO has made a deal for Whitehurst most of you guys are crying that we paid too much. I would rather pay what we did then to waste one of our 1st rounders on any of the QB's coming out in the draft. I hear you guys say we are buying too high and selling too low. I agree they should have gotten more for Seneca, but moving down 20 spots in the 2nd round and giving up a late 3rd next year is not that steep of a gamble for a guy who has all the tools to be a FRANCHISE QB!!! Look on you tube and check out the skills this kid has, on the real ITS SICK!!
We gained another pick in the Tapp deal and will probably get another when we ship Sims off to Cleveland, so lay off of Pete and Schnide atleast they are trying to rebuild effectively. So I guess what I am saying is be a true fan and get on board and give these guys a chance or pick another set of colors and cry about their moves, PERIOD!!!!
HM Answer me this, because it seems that everyone can't give a straight forward answer, If this kid is so good, why has he been a 3rd string QB since entering the league. When he entered the league, the Chargers had Rivers as their starter, and Whitehurst was to be his backup. But San Diego was uncertain about a rookie backup and traded for Billy Volek, who had experience. Volek has done nothing to lose his backup job (and is underrated by people here). What's your argument for Clausen's worth?
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Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:11 pm |
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prelag wrote: HAWKMANINVANCOUVER wrote: Something I just have to get off my chest. I have listened to all my Hawk brethern bitch and complain since the season ended about us not having a sucessor for Hass and now that our new FO has made a deal for Whitehurst most of you guys are crying that we paid too much. I would rather pay what we did then to waste one of our 1st rounders on any of the QB's coming out in the draft. I hear you guys say we are buying too high and selling too low. I agree they should have gotten more for Seneca, but moving down 20 spots in the 2nd round and giving up a late 3rd next year is not that steep of a gamble for a guy who has all the tools to be a FRANCHISE QB!!! Look on you tube and check out the skills this kid has, on the real ITS SICK!!
We gained another pick in the Tapp deal and will probably get another when we ship Sims off to Cleveland, so lay off of Pete and Schnide atleast they are trying to rebuild effectively. So I guess what I am saying is be a true fan and get on board and give these guys a chance or pick another set of colors and cry about their moves, PERIOD!!!!
HM Answer me this, because it seems that everyone can't give a straight forward answer, If this kid is so good, why has he been a 3rd string QB since entering the league. Because he has been playing behind one very, VERY good starting QB and one of the more respected veteran backup QB's in the game. Seriously. San Diego has some of the best QB depth in the game. It's probably one of the only organizations in the game where Whitehurst would be a #3. He's not a third stringer here, that's for damn sure.
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