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 Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization
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If the Seahawks did get a third in return then that totally changes my opinion on the trade. Wait and see I guess till everything is final...

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 Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization
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sure he was tendered with a 3rd rounder, does not mean SD wouldn't have matched an offer that gave them a 3rd only.


This is the key - had SD matched, and there's no saying they wouldn't - we'd have squat right now. At least our FO got the guy they wanted.

As the details are firmed up on the deal, still having a 2nd this year and still having a 3rd next year isn't too shabby for getting the guy the organization showed the most interest in. Had SD matched the offer, we would have been in a much more uncomfortable position come draft day.

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 Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization
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ludakrishna wrote:
Per the ESPN Ticker. This is what we gave up.

Seattle - 2010 2nd round pick AND 2011 3rd

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San Diego - 2010 2nd round pick, 2010 3rd round pick, Charlie Whitehurst

This doesn't seem all that bad.


If that is true I change my opinion and say it was a decent trade, not great, but not bad either.


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 Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization
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I'm watching ESPNews right now, but not seeing anything on the bottomline about this trade either way.

Really hoping that report about getting back a 2010 3rd is accurate, but that one report is all I'm hearing that from at this time. Anyone know what pick that would be in the 3rd this year?


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 Post subject: Re: Whitehurst vs. Draft QB of the Future Rationalization
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why do we want this guy? hes barely taken any regular season snaps at all if any

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ha....its amazing what happens when you go for a beer on st, patties day.


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Is that beer "rave green"?

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ha....its amazing what happens when you go for a beer on st, patties day.


Its green, but Rave green?.....maybe


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Well now on ESPN News side bar (not seeing anything on the scroller) it says we swapped 2nd rounders and WE get the Chargers 2011 3rd rounder...so basically I don't think they know what's really going on. I really hope we get their 3rd rounder this year though. It would make this a bit more palatable.


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my bar today was putting food coloring in beer. lol

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Zeppe wrote:
Well now on ESPN News side bar (not seeing anything on the scroller) it says we swapped 2nd rounders and WE get the Chargers 2011 3rd rounder...so basically I don't think they know what's really going on. I really hope we get their 3rd rounder this year though. It would make this a bit more palatable.



Even if we get their 3rd this year, it's a high price to pay for a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL let alone a 3rd string QB. Carroll is either a genius or moron -- I guess we'll only know this time next year.


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49thHawk wrote:
Zeppe wrote:
Well now on ESPN News side bar (not seeing anything on the scroller) it says we swapped 2nd rounders and WE get the Chargers 2011 3rd rounder...so basically I don't think they know what's really going on. I really hope we get their 3rd rounder this year though. It would make this a bit more palatable.



Even if we get their 3rd this year, it's a high price to pay for a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL let alone a 3rd string QB. Carroll is either a genius or moron -- I guess we'll only know this time next year.


I'll take that deal over the originally announced one ANYDAY! I really hope the Seahawks got a third in return, especially if they didn't give up their third from next year...

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Chapow wrote:
Hey PC/JS, you're doing it wrong! Make trades then smoke crack!!

:pukeface: :pukeface: :pukeface:


If we get a 2010 3rd round pick out of this deal then I retract 2 of the 3 pukeface emoticons.

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49thHawk wrote:
Zeppe wrote:
Well now on ESPN News side bar (not seeing anything on the scroller) it says we swapped 2nd rounders and WE get the Chargers 2011 3rd rounder...so basically I don't think they know what's really going on. I really hope we get their 3rd rounder this year though. It would make this a bit more palatable.



Even if we get their 3rd this year, it's a high price to pay for a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL let alone a 3rd string QB. Carroll is either a genius or moron -- I guess we'll only know this time next year.


You know what's an even higher price to pay? A high first rounder and a $70 million contract. :mrgreen:

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Okay, so maybe that pass rush is still an issue. Lather, rinse, repeat.


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volsunghawk wrote:
49thHawk wrote:
Zeppe wrote:
Well now on ESPN News side bar (not seeing anything on the scroller) it says we swapped 2nd rounders and WE get the Chargers 2011 3rd rounder...so basically I don't think they know what's really going on. I really hope we get their 3rd rounder this year though. It would make this a bit more palatable.



Even if we get their 3rd this year, it's a high price to pay for a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL let alone a 3rd string QB. Carroll is either a genius or moron -- I guess we'll only know this time next year.


You know what's an even higher price to pay? A high first rounder and a $70 million contract. :mrgreen:


Absolutely! you guys think we paid alot for Curry, how about a QB taken 2 picks earlier in the draft a year later.


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49thHawk wrote:
Zeppe wrote:
Well now on ESPN News side bar (not seeing anything on the scroller) it says we swapped 2nd rounders and WE get the Chargers 2011 3rd rounder...so basically I don't think they know what's really going on. I really hope we get their 3rd rounder this year though. It would make this a bit more palatable.



Even if we get their 3rd this year, it's a high price to pay for a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL let alone a 3rd string QB. Carroll is either a genius or moron -- I guess we'll only know this time next year.


You know what's an even higher price to pay? A high first rounder and a $70 million contract. :mrgreen:

This.


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ludakrishna wrote:
Per the ESPN Ticker. This is what we gave up.

Seattle - 2010 2nd round pick AND 2011 3rd

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San Diego - 2010 2nd round pick, 2010 3rd round pick, Charlie Whitehurst

This doesn't seem all that bad.


If we did get there third then that makes this deal a lot better. Please let it be true!

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I'm not buying into any of the 3rd round stuff until I see it. Nobody online is reporting this. Not often that the ESPN ticker scoops all the internet reporters.

If it were to be the case, that definitely changes my thoughts on the trade. Still is a risky deal as Whitehurst is still entirely unproven. But it wouldn't be nearly as big a screw job trade.

But like I said. I'll believe it when I see it. Already got my hopes up with that stupid Julius Jones rumor earlier today. Fool me once...

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ludakrishna wrote:
Per the ESPN Ticker. This is what we gave up.

Seattle - 2010 2nd round pick AND 2011 3rd

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San Diego - 2010 2nd round pick, 2010 3rd round pick, Charlie Whitehurst

This doesn't seem all that bad.


If we did get there third then that makes this deal a lot better. Please let it be true!


I don't buy this for a second. Remove Whitehurst, and that's still a trade that's pretty fair value.

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49thHawk wrote:
Zeppe wrote:
Well now on ESPN News side bar (not seeing anything on the scroller) it says we swapped 2nd rounders and WE get the Chargers 2011 3rd rounder...so basically I don't think they know what's really going on. I really hope we get their 3rd rounder this year though. It would make this a bit more palatable.



Even if we get their 3rd this year, it's a high price to pay for a guy who hasn't thrown a pass in the NFL let alone a 3rd string QB. Carroll is either a genius or moron -- I guess we'll only know this time next year.


You know what's an even higher price to pay? A high first rounder and a $70 million contract. :mrgreen:


Your right. We should just trade our 1st round picks away and go after some practice squad players -- they'll come cheap. Sorry not to be a jerk but just challenging the thinking that we shouldn't build the team through the draft.

Also, the difference between Whitehurst and a draft pic is Whitehurst has been in the league for a few years and is still sitting at 3rd string and hasn't thrown as pass in the NFL. And we still paid a lot for him -- not 1st round dollars -- but still big bucks for a 3rd stringer.


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